Mesh editing, hope's up again

[tntpaladin]

Theres a new clothes download @ TSR, male child speedo underwear that's body-fit, previously everything had to be tube-like. Not anymore, someone has found out how to edit meshes!!!
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[tntpaladin]

heres a preview:
http://imageserver3.thesimsresource.com/ts2clothing_9257_preview-big.jpg

[tntpaladin]

never mind, proved wrong by Delphy, it contains a reference to a pre-existing mesh file

[Delphy]

It's not mesh editing - it's mesh referencing :)

They didn't create a new mesh at all - they simply used an in-game mesh for that particular skin.

The "3D ID Referencing File" thats in the package gives it away :)

Dont you love false claims?

:)

[XLStormyLX]

Oh, yes the speedy incline of excitment followed swiftly by the even speedier decline into depression. Good times!

[tntpaladin]

the search continues

[Loverat]

those cheaterers :P

[blade]

yeah the swimsuit skins are the easiest skins to make other skins out of. since swimsuits are tight and they stick to the body when you make new clothes out of them even if their not swimsuits they always come out perfect. all you need to do is edit the swimsuits A channel to create practically anything you want almost.

[Jerome]

WallSims claims to have a new 3D Body Mesh; the cleavage mighyt be just an optical illusion, but the boots certainly don't! http://wallsims.povlab.org/ Unfortunatly they ask 2 euro for the download. Is anybody interested looking into it?

Jerome

[Delphy]

Can you link me to the specific skin that has "modified" boots?

[hardonmachin]

I wish I knew how to do that... changing the mesh refernce.

[Delphy]

Jerome, I think I find it - it's the army girl with the boots and the cleavage, right?

I've donated, so I should get the file soon :)

[DarkFate]

Well lets hope you didn't waste your money on another fake.

[Delphy]

File recieved. Again, it just uses a Mesh ID Reference file - there are no meshes contained in the actual file.

Extracting the TXTR also reveals that the cleavage is an optical illusion as well.

So, nothing mind boggleling new here :)

[DarkFate]

Bah. False advertising!
The day meshes are finally cracked, there will be a huge uproar on all the major sites. I guarantee it

[hardonmachin]

see if this link works....
http://wallsims.povlab.org/download/objects/do_army_f001a.jpg

EDIT: err you found it alot faster than me... I haven't seen boots like that anywhere in the game before. Is it from one of the "hidden" outfits or something?
[ Edited 17-11-2004 01:00PM ]

[Delphy]

Probably.

btw it *is* a great skin so it's cool :)

[DarkFate]

I looked at the link hardonmachin posted, it does look like a pretty good skin. :D
False advertising is bad though.

[Jerome]

Yes it is that booted outfit. Hope youdidn't waste your money on it. So is it an already in-game mesh? I am pretty sure never saw it before. The cleavage is fake isn't it? If so, we may conlcude th mesh is not created for this outfit. A shame Wallsims is misleading the community. Didn't expect that from them. :-( means we are back where we were.

Jerome

[snazza]

Whoever wrote the description calls it a "meshe"

[Jerome]

DarkFate can you mail me the 'so called' mesh? I like to investigate it more closely. check my details for the mail address. TIA

Jerome

[lifedoll13]

I couldn't find this file at TSR --- can you tell me where it is?
(don't care how they made it)


the male child undies-(tightie whities)
[ Edited 19-11-2004 12:43AM ]

[poi_boi]

I saw this thread and went !amazed only to follow up with a :(
I'm trying to wait with calm but the urge to meshedit is building.

[alpjoy]

The warrior boots mesh came with the Gamespot package for use with bodyshop. I have the mesh and those are not optical illusions. The bust is at least a full cup size larger than the basic maxis mesh. The cleavage is 100% true on the mesh. I searched for amazons at the sims exchange and found many skins for that particular mesh. I want to have meshes so I can edit them like I have for TS1. I made meshes for www.simskins.net in case anyone is interested.

[dieKetzer]

i have the gamespot package and dont have the boots or the bust.

[d_h1234]

alpjoy you said "mesh" way too many times in that post.

[alpjoy]

If you have a better way of describing the 3d forms of the characters in the game let me know OK. ;) I didn't download the Gamestop package and I have the mesh. The body mesh has boots and leather clothing. I have 2 skin recolor variations and I know the cup size is larger press F3 while using bodyshop and load that mesh then pick a Maxis body mesh. If you don't notice a difference get your eyes checked. ;)

[fishface60]

So that means Gamespot has a Mesh editor....... Let's Lynch mob

[ThomasRiordan]

For any one who wants the boys speedo mesh save yourself some money and download it at http://thesims2.ea.com/exchange/sim_detail.php?asset_id=102488&search=1&asset_type=sim&key=speedo&order=CREATION_DATE+desc&nrows=5&age=&gender=&custom=&locality=&country=&view=

If you can't make your own that is.

[Rosco]

Well, something's weird with the Army Girl; at
http://wallsims.povlab.org/ Look at the picture below and you'll see the 'big' picture...

on the left is the outfit referenced above applied to a 'blank' sim in body shop. On the right is the SAME SIM that I just changed it to a plain swim suit....

that ain't no optical illusion, that a D-cup compared to maybe a B.

http://img98.exs.cx/img98/553/boobjob.jpg

[saramkirk]

This outfit is available on the Exchange. Not the exact one like at the pay site, but you know what I mean.

Search for "amazon" and "army." I found something like 7 different ones.

And, yes, it's not an optical illusion! Definitely different.

[alpjoy]

Thanks Rosco! Now everyone can see the difference I was talking about. :)

[dudesim]

Claw made one on 8ds an :) Tsr has on too..I beleave

[nhaines]

I hope it's not out of place, but I made a boy's briefs and uploaded it to The Sims 2 Exchange. I hoped to use it to make jammers for swimming but my stylus is broken and I haven't had any time for the game.

But you can find the file at my MySims page at http://thesims2.ea.com/mysimpage/mysimpage.php?user_id=14391

[Rosco]

but HOW are they doing it??

[Rain]

All I know is that there was something just like this included in one of the exclusive Body Shop packages. There was a main Body Shop package, one that could be found exclusively at Gamespy/Fileplanet/whatever and one exclusive to GameSpot. I figure Maxis gave them these. Anyway, I had an account at GameSpot, but was never able to successfully get their package to download.

[gavrie55]

How are they doing what? Using that mesh?

No idea how they got it to show up, never could get several different sets of skins to show up in my Sims 2 game, of course including the Gamespot ones... or whatever the site is called, slips my memory all the time.

Anyway, most people just do simple, and generally boring, texture editing. At least on that mesh. Not much else it can work for, tell the truth, besides an amazon or an elf or warrior or whatever.

You really wouldn't think editing and adding new meshes would be a big deal. Part of what was fun in the Sims.

Seems like it should be easier, almost... Edit one modle to change all the swimsuits, 2 to change all the pajamas, a bunch to change all the normal cloths, several to change formal, 1 or 2 to change underwear, 1 to change athletic wear... That is, for each sex, age, ect, ect... Not having any 3D editing talents of my own to start with, I'm just going to assume someone else figures it out.

[blade]

is it a new mesh or not. has anyone confirmed it?

[Delphy]

No, it's not. It's included in the game but it's locked.

The current way meshes and skins interact is pretty complex - I wouldn't have done it that way at all :)

[blade]

how do you unlock it?

[fafassims]

could someone please tell me where the file is at gamespot?

[BigMike2394]

hey if anyone figures out how to get to that mesh let me know. i would be very interested in creating skins for it if possible.

[fafassims]

same here! i have looked *everywhere* for that file

[Gunny965]

The mesh and skin are in the game already. You can access them in CAS in debug mode!

[blade]

what the hell is cas?

[chbimun]

what the hell is cas?

Create A Sim

or CAS for short.

[fafassims]

is create-a-sim bodyshop, or the actual place in TS2 where you create sims? sorry if this all sound stupid, but also how do you get into debug mode?

[dudesim]

Cas is in the game:)

[fafassims]

thanx! but whats the cheat for debug? do you just type debug in the cheat window?

[DarkFate]

I don't know if giving the debug code to people that don't even know what CAS is; is a good idea, but here you go. boolProp testingCheatsEnabled true then click the zoom button in CAS, then shift + n. Debug mode turns on. Remember, if you mess up anything using it, it is your problem, not ours or Maxis. You have been officially warned by a member of the admin team here at MTS2, and Maxis has already stated they will give no support to people using debug mode.

DarkFate – Moderator.

[Scanger]

Step-by-step instructions:
but u have been warned :)

Fire up the sims
Pick Create New family
Create A sim

then press "ctrl+shift+C"

type the following:
boolProp testingCheatsEnabled true

press enter
type "exit" into console to close it

then press "shift +n"

you are now in debug mode and can choose from an array of locked body meshes, including a good old llama costume..aswell as the big bust one WITH the boots


"shift +m" to exit DEBUG mode

then press "ctrl+shift+C"
boolProp testingCheatsEnabled false


heres some screens....sexy social bunny eh? ;)
make me wanna be depressed more often.

http://scanger.turmace.com/bustybunny_2.jpg

[CTNutmegger]

That well endowed body is one of 3 meshes with 4 textures formerly in the exclusive packs that you could download from IGN and GameSpot. Those meshes are included now in the game, but unless you have downloaded recolors or had exported them using the old BodyShop they don't show up.

If anyone would like the original textures I have exported them all and have had them available at N99s POBS for quite some time. I can attach them here if you like or should I submit them for inspection first?

The camo one for the female has a bumpmap, I've converted it to the new style so it will export for recolor if you so desire. The other three don't use the bump.

I've attached a pic of you would like to see what they look like.

CT :)

e107_files/public/19221_extraskins.jpg
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[chbimun]

I'd definately like to have 'em. Whichever way you choose to distribute them is peaches by me.

Ah the kink possibilities of a "warrior princess" *cackle*

[DarkFate]

chbimun you can access all of these and more just by using the debug mode of CAS
Here is the info you need.
http://72.9.230.162/wiki/TestingCheats

[chbimun]

Heh actually been playing with that most of the morning in house mode, but I completely forgot about the CAS! Thanks for the reminder.

[CTNutmegger]

OK, here they are, all 4 are included in the rar, just open and place them in your ...\My Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads folder and they will then be available in the game or in BodyShop.

If you would rather have the zip file instead you can find it here.
ExtraMeshes.ziip

19221_extrameshes.rar

[dudesim]

Good stuff thanks:)

[blade]

who has that skin in the game? i've never saw it.

[chbimun]

Like it's been said in this thread a few times, it was one of the "special" skins that IGN and GameSpot users could have so they could feel "l33t." There wasn't any specific class of sim that used it as far as I know.

[blade]

how dare maxis hide skins in the game!

[fafassims]

aw thanx a lot guys :) :) yeah i just got confused because bodyshop used to be called CAS, so i wasn't sure... anyways thanx!

[tomorrow]

Quick question: In Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy, it is possible to turn off some parts of the models in some config files. For example, you can turn off the goggles on one model, or the belt, or the holster, etc. Any chance this would be possible with some Sims 2 models?

[poi_boi]

Quick question: In Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy, it is possible to turn off some parts of the models in some config files. For example, you can turn off the goggles on one model, or the belt, or the holster, etc. Any chance this would be possible with some Sims 2 models?

There are several invisible clothing bits in debug mode if this is what you want. you can make a sim that has a head and torso but is invisible from the belt down or other combination.

Please read the Warning earlier in this thread though before using debug mode.

[ahmird2]

The way these meshes and skins operate is rediculus. You can't put normal clothes the hidden meshes and retain the body shape. At least in the Sims 1 only certian clothes were available for a certian body type. This game lets you use any clothes and it changes the body type. I think it looks stupid when the sim changes to a swimsuit and has a whole differant body. I can't wait till we crack the meshes. -JoJo

[ahmird2]

I don't know how relivant this is but some of you better modders out there might find this of use, mabe not...
There is a test object to change models in objects.package (The new one after Maxis's fix is installed). group: 0x7F944DF3

[Rockerduck]

Looks like a plain old clothing mesh to me, not a body mesh at all ;)

Which is probably also the reason for the straps on that cleavage, otherwise you'd likely notice that the bust is just part of the clothing mesh.

[madhattr999]

no they showed pictures from other angles.. "they" still look 3d when you rotate it at different angles..

[Rockerduck]

Yes, that's what it is - a clothing mesh. The big bust is part of the dress. Which is also why it suddenly disappears when the same Sim wears, say, a swimsuit :)

I don't have these l33t meshes, but it should be obvious if a custom skin color is applied to the Sim.

If the bust does then still have the same color as the custom skin then I am obviously wrong ;-)
[ Edited 02-12-2004 06:56PM ]

[grimiore]

I don't know how significant this is, so I'll post and let you decide. I used a modified default nude in-game and made this outfit transparent, to see if the default skin would still show through. Here's what I got:



e107_files/public/7317_alpha.jpg
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[Allan Akbar]

Yes, that's what it is - a clothing mesh. The big bust is part of the dress. Which is also why it suddenly disappears when the same Sim wears, say, a swimsuit :)


Like stuffed bras in high school. The boobs disappeared when the bra came off. But, on the other hand, when you got that far you didn't really care.....

[Rockerduck]

*laughs* Yeah exactly like that.

Maybe I'll download these clothes later and play with them for a bit, but it's a shame they're so ... useless. Unless you play in a medieval setting or something :)

[Bink13y]

heres a preview:
http://imageserver3.thesimsresource.com/ts2clothing_9257_preview-big.jpg

This is the undies mesh for female child re ID taged to male child and textured as whitie tities.

I NEED THE LINK FOR THIS HACKED MESH!!!

I'm the guy who created SimDroid and I've had dozens of requests for wasy to do it in younger age groups. i could add my SimDroid child texture over this as a clothing item. never doing Transparent alphas again :P

[Bink13y]

oopse. acidently doubled this
[ Edited 04-12-2004 10:28AM ]

[BoaConstrictor]

I've come across this Amazon Warrior Skin now, too, and wondered: If the mesh is obviously there and working in game - after all those women are moving around doing everything a normally shaped sims does - why is it impossible to create other garment for that bodytype (be it everyday or any other category)?

[Rockerduck]

Because it's tied to this one outfit only. :/

[fafassims]

replying to grimiore:
the reason the rest don't show up is because, if you examine the texture and alpha files, the parts covering the breasts are near the feet. to get the nipples to show up, you have to put them where the "bra" is.

[ahmird2]

The bust does have the same color as the skin, at least with the alien skin in debug mode. I tried that today when I was showing someone these clothes.

[BlackKat13]

I downloaded these skins from peggysims. The silver pantsuit- it's a skirt coming over the pants, and the skirt is made up of all thoes individual stringy peices. Also, the other one, long in back, but scoops short in front. I don't know of any other mesh like it. Is this a mesh reference?

[romancereads81]

how do i extract those "hidden" meshes i can see when in debug mode? i coudl make some awesome recolours with those! anyone know how?

[Hare]

BlackKat13, those outfits from peggysims look really nice. They look like they were made from the Hula Dancer skin. They look like they have the coconut mesh. The Hula skin's dress, flower belt and lei are Alpha projections of some sort rather than a mesh. If the Alpha picture is made black the whole skirt and lei will disappear. I don't know why they had to add the stupid coconut mesh that doesn't disappear. It would have been much more versatile without them. The short nighties also have Alpha projections at the bottom, starting at the top of the slit and down, above the slit is a standard mesh.

romancereads81, on the previous page, near the middle, there is a .rar package of the four hidden meshes posted for download.

[Morague]

I've managed to unlock the wedding dress, but the submission was rejected. I'm just waiting to hear back as to why. Once I know I'll post it again for downloading - I know lots of people would like to get their hands on that. It's a nice gown & will make for some more variety.

Morague