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FlamingoDancing
22nd Aug 2011, 10:49 AM
So the husband (John Burb) is having an affair with one of the characters I created. They've woohoo-ed and the wife (Jennifer) doesn't know about the affair yet and I'd like to keep it that way. However, the woman that John is cheating with is now pregnant ... Will Jennifer find out about the affair when she gives birth?

If Jennifer will, is there a way to terminate the pregnancy?

Help is much appreciated. Thanks. :)

Simsica
22nd Aug 2011, 11:40 AM
Actually, poor Jenny probably already knows. You know how Sims "gossip"? Well, Jenny has probably heard about the affair - meaning that there's most probably a gossip among her invisible memories about it, but the game only recognizes her as knowing if she actually sees/witnesses the affair with her own little pixel eyes.

And BTW, John Burb unfaithful?! I've played that family for years and never did he show any interest in cheating. Jenny however did. She had a host of young hunky lovers, the most prominent among them being Jason Larson. But in my game John kept her pregnant almost all the time (risky woohoo in ACR), so none of those affairs ever lasted for long. She ended her affair with Jason during her last pregnancy and thus drove the poor Sim into depression. He only ever thought about her for a very long time, until he fell into deep red mood.

Peni Griffin
22nd Aug 2011, 01:05 PM
If you don't want to play out the consequences of a character getting pregnant, don't let her get pregnant! You presumably are using risky woohoo, but you can turn that mod off in individual cases. I don't see any excuse for player-unwanted pregnancy in this game.

However, my obnoxious disapproval of your player decisions aside, there's a thread here somewhere, several months old, discussing ways and means of aborting a pixel fetus. Try searching the site for "abortion," which I believe was in the thread title.

starryeyedSim
22nd Aug 2011, 01:16 PM
FlamingoDancing,
No, the wife Sim won't find out about the affair unless you have John Burb flirt with the other Sim right in front of her, or in the same room, or near by. This is funny, as if John Burb goes off to woohoo a Sim on his own, or that Sims have baby Sims without You clicking Try for Baby... obviously you have the hack installed. If you watch the speach bubbles your Sims may even discuss the baby, the other Sim etc, but there won't be any jealousy unless you have them in the room or on the lot near by and they flirt to where she becomes aware of it.
No, there isn't a way to end the pregnancy as far as I know, not even a hack, unless TwoJeffs has one, but I find it extremely funny that "You" played out the game this way, and now don't like what you did...I would play it out to the end of it was me, that's what he gets for woohooing someone else. He should do the right thing and adopt that baby. His wife should leave him for cheating and take the other kids with her. Muhaha

The wonderful thing about the Sims if you don't like the results in your hood, you start it over (removed Sims 2 file, restart game, all new hoods unplayed) and play your Burbs again. But this time fill the wants he wants instead of yours, and find out he doesn't cheat. :)

Rarr
22nd Aug 2011, 01:20 PM
You could put the game in debug mode and then speed up the pregnancy then age the kid up and movE it out/make it a townie ;)

VioletPadfoot
22nd Aug 2011, 01:33 PM
I'll join everyone else in saying that you created the situation, you should play it out. That said, Jennifer won't know of the affair unless like starryeyedSim said, they intract romantically in front of her. I'm almost certain she can meet the child and still not know, but I haven't had this happen in my game in a long time so don't quote me on that. If you really want to be rid of the pixel spawn, you can let the mom's needs drop so that she miscarries. Also the SimBlender (I think it's that one) has an option to terminate pregnancies that aren't showing yet. ~VP

FlamingoDancing
22nd Aug 2011, 01:52 PM
My main point was that I wanted Jennifer kept in the dark so if she doesn't know about the kid, it's all good. :D

maxon
22nd Aug 2011, 03:13 PM
Hurrah! - Wait, you DON'T want her to find out? Oh. <disappointment>

Extensa5420
22nd Aug 2011, 03:38 PM
So the husband (John Burb) is having an affair with one of the characters I created. They've woohoo-ed and the wife (Jennifer) doesn't know about the affair yet and I'd like to keep it that way. However, the woman that John is cheating with is now pregnant ... Will Jennifer find out about the affair when she gives birth?

If Jennifer will, is there a way to terminate the pregnancy?

Help is much appreciated. Thanks. :)

Instead of terminating the pregnancy, there's an easier way: don't save. Save regularly, so that when an undesirable interaction occurs, you can easily quit the game.

Another way is to just wait for the baby to be born, regardless of the consequences. You can easily repair relationships in the game. If FreeTime is installed, I think you can also study couple counseling.

Finally, uninstall ACR. If you can't handle autonomous casual woohoo and pregnancy, then don't download it, and if you have already downloaded it, remove it completely from your game. (I never have played with ACR, and never will. It just isn't my thing. The Sims 2 for me is different from real life, in that people in the game actually have self-control and moral conscience over their sexual behaviors. And I'm glad that the Sims is made that way.)

katya_stevens
22nd Aug 2011, 03:53 PM
No, there isn't a way to end the pregnancy as far as I know, not even a hack, unless TwoJeffs has one

ACR has a "Take morning after pill" option in the first 24 hours of the pregnancy.

InTeen has miscarriage and end pregnancy options on the biological clock.

el_flel
22nd Aug 2011, 05:10 PM
Guys, if FlamingoDancing doesn't want to play out the baby then she doesn't have to!

In addition to what others have said: Miscarriages don't occur in a vanilla game - they are a feature of InTeen and only if you have the relevant flavour pack installed.

It's funny the way that Sims' lives work. Unless John performs a romantic interaction with his mistress in front of Jennifer, she will never 'find out' about the affair. However, the game will possibly recognise that Jennifer is related to the baby and so consequently if/when they meet they will only have family interactions (family kiss/hug, no options for romantic interactions, etc.). So in that sense, it's like she knows that her husband has a baby with another woman but it doesn't really register that this has happened via an affair, so she won't get mad at him.

Simsica
22nd Aug 2011, 06:40 PM
There are *tons* of hacks out there that can end the pregnancy. I'm not sure, but I think even InSim allows this. If nothing helps, you can load your hood in SimPe and fix your Sim there.
So, if an abortion is needed, there are many means. There's even that hack+hacked objects for delivery and abortion that is featured in "Finds" here on MTS home page, if you want to really simulate it, as opposed to "cheating".

M.M.A.A.
22nd Aug 2011, 07:43 PM
if you have insimenator, use the reproductive adjustor to abort the pregnancy.

Peni Griffin
22nd Aug 2011, 07:51 PM
Guys, if FlamingoDancing doesn't want to play out the baby then she doesn't have to! Hence my characterization of my disapproval as "obnoxious."

... However, the game will recognise that Jennifer is related to the baby and so consequently if/when they meet they will only have family interactions (family kiss/hug, no options for romantic interactions, etc.).

This seems really unlikely to me! The wives of my alien fathers don't have family tags with the offspring (unless I put them on in SimPE), so I don't see why women would have them with their husbands' bastards. If it does work that way, it's whacked, and I will certainly go into SimPE and fix it when the bastard conceived this rotation is born.

pinimon162
22nd Aug 2011, 08:05 PM
Guys, if FlamingoDancing doesn't want to play out the baby then she doesn't have to!

In addition to what others have said: Miscarriages don't occur in a vanilla game - they are a feature of InTeen and only if you have the relevant flavour pack installed.

It's funny the way that Sims' lives work. Unless John performs a romantic interaction with his mistress in front of Jennifer, she will never 'find out' about the affair. However, the game will recognise that Jennifer is related to the baby and so consequently if/when they meet they will only have family interactions (family kiss/hug, no options for romantic interactions, etc.). So in that sense, it's like she knows that her husband has a baby with another woman but it doesn't really register that this has happened via an affair, so she won't get mad at him.

Actually, Jennifer won't recognise the baby unless she meets it, and even then they will not be related. Any offspring Jennifer and John have together will be related to the baby, but not Jennifer.

el_flel
22nd Aug 2011, 09:00 PM
Really? Because I remember a family I started where the daughter was in a relationship with the mother's boyfriend but as soon as the mother married him the daughter couldn't interact with him romantically anymore. Though my game is quite hacked, it could be a result of that. If what I said is nonsense then please just ignore it! And yeah, I know that Jennifer wouldn't know the child until she's met it.

I was being facetious in saying that FD didn't have to play out the baby. I found it funny how people were saying, "You got her into this mess, now live with it!" like they were a disapproving father lol.

pinimon162
22nd Aug 2011, 10:09 PM
Really? Because I remember a family I started where the daughter was in a relationship with the mother's boyfriend but as soon as the mother married him the daughter couldn't interact with him romantically anymore. Though my game is quite hacked, it could be a result of that. If what I said is nonsense then please just ignore it! And yeah, I know that Jennifer wouldn't know the child until she's met it.

I was being facetious in saying that FD didn't have to play out the baby. I found it funny how people were saying, "You got her into this mess, now live with it!" like they were a disapproving father lol.

hmm well I think it depends on the situation..in that case in the family tree it would show the mother linked to the boyfriend rather than the daughter's father so maybe that has something to do with it? maybe it accepts that it's now a parental role whereas with the Burbs the child has a mother? (I'm just guessing here).

I have noticed though that with families where there is for example a married couple, and the husband's parents, the wife at first could have romantic interactions with her husband's father! But at time went on it was reduced to 'family kiss'.

It's also interesting that with plantsims, if a plantsim produces spore whilst they're married, their spouse treats the child as if it's a family member even though they're not related or in the family tree.

maxon
22nd Aug 2011, 10:33 PM
Really? Because I remember a family I started where the daughter was in a relationship with the mother's boyfriend but as soon as the mother married him the daughter couldn't interact with him romantically anymore. Though my game is quite hacked, it could be a result of that.
No, that's part of the game coding - it's because the daughter became a step-daughter of her lover and ... I think I just squicked myself out. Given what sort of player I am, I think that's a first.

el_flel
22nd Aug 2011, 10:39 PM
Haha they were a chaotic family I started when my game was having a bit of a lull.

So, in FD's case would John's lovechild have Jennifer registered as a stepmother? Because if my sim-daugther became a step-daughter, why would FD's situation be different? Is it because the child wouldn't be living with John?

maxon
22nd Aug 2011, 10:47 PM
So, in FD's case would John's lovechild have Jennifer registered as a stepmother? Because if my sim-daugther became a step-daughter, why would FD's situation be different? Is it because the child wouldn't be living with John?
I think so. Now I think about it, I'm not entirely sure about the family flag being set when the parent and step-parent marry. It certainly doesn't show in game (and god knows, my sims have had enough illegitimate love children). So I'm wondering now how I know that. I think I must have read about it somewhere. I think this may be a case for investigation to get some actual evidence.

Saturnfly
23rd Aug 2011, 12:27 PM
Could always have a baby BBQ..... <.< ... >.>

Ghost sdoj
23rd Aug 2011, 10:19 PM
There are *tons* of hacks out there that can end the pregnancy. I'm not sure, but I think even InSim allows this. If nothing helps, you can load your hood in SimPe and fix your Sim there.
So, if an abortion is needed, there are many means. There's even that hack+hacked objects for delivery and abortion that is featured in "Finds" here on MTS home page, if you want to really simulate it, as opposed to "cheating".

Please remember that if you are fixing it in SimPE, you need a backup of your entire neighborhood first. You can also accidentally leave her in a limbo state where she is pregnant again with no woohoo at all. Or still showing pregnant, without being pregnant so it will never stop. It's safer to use an in-game hack to fix it.

aaries16
24th Aug 2011, 12:00 AM
The wife won't know about the illegitimate baby, ever. Even when the wife meets the child, she won't have a clue. I had this situation in my game not too long ago. A woman, named Katelyn, was married to a man named Justin. Katelyn was best friends with the town slut Naomi. And all three of them lived in the same apartment building. While Katelyn was off at work, Justin and Naomi would get it on all the time, resulting in Naomi getting pregnant and having a baby. Katelyn was still best friends with Naomi, even babysat her husband's illegitimate kid when Naomi had to go to work, but she never knew. Katelyn finally found out about the affair when I let her - her husband started woohooing Naomi while Katelyn was still on the lot. And that was the end of their marriage.

RoadRageBarbie
24th Aug 2011, 01:18 AM
I think it's so funny that everyone's up in arms about the pixel doll's affair and potential abortion. Your sims really all have perfect, cookie cutter lives? Where the heck is the fun in that?

Peni Griffin
24th Aug 2011, 03:26 AM
No, dear, the objection - which was about half playful - was to the player making a decision in the game and not wanting to face the potential consequences. If we can't face responsibility for our own choices in a solitaire game, where the devil can we face them?

el_flel
24th Aug 2011, 10:19 AM
I think so. Now I think about it, I'm not entirely sure about the family flag being set when the parent and step-parent marry. It certainly doesn't show in game (and god knows, my sims have had enough illegitimate love children). So I'm wondering now how I know that. I think I must have read about it somewhere. I think this may be a case for investigation to get some actual evidence.My plantsim was spawned, not born, and cannot romantically interact with her mother's husband, but he isn't listed as her family on the family tree or the relationship panel. I checked this last night. I guess there's a hidden flag or something.

VioletPadfoot
24th Aug 2011, 02:28 PM
I think it's so funny that everyone's up in arms about the pixel doll's affair and potential abortion. Your sims really all have perfect, cookie cutter lives? Where the heck is the fun in that?
My pixel dolls rarely have cookie cutter lives. Those are much to boring to play for extended periods of time. However, if my sim happens to be woohooing someone she shouldn't and ends up spawning children from it, she and her lover are just going to have to deal with the consequences. Even if they include his wife finding out.

amber505
24th Aug 2011, 07:26 PM
So, in FD's case would John's lovechild have Jennifer registered as a stepmother? Because if my sim-daugther became a step-daughter, why would FD's situation be different? Is it because the child wouldn't be living with John?

I'm not sure how the game actually regards the spouse of a sim's parent. As far as I know they don't have the family icon in the relationship panel but I have had romantic interactions disabled between a sim and their step-parent whilst they are married to a parent but I found that this didn't always happen. I don't know why.

labellavienna
24th Aug 2011, 08:07 PM
How do you get this to happen? My sims could NEVER EVER get another sims pregnant unless it was the sim currently living on the lot...I want one of my "sex addicteD" sims to get a few women pregnant and then plan out this massive divorce from his wife.

MuletotheFoxxes
24th Aug 2011, 08:09 PM
You have to play the other womans lot, or move the other woman in.

labellavienna
24th Aug 2011, 08:13 PM
Sounds complicated...especially if she is a townie or NPC? How and where would u find them to play?

Darby
24th Aug 2011, 08:15 PM
You wouldn't. Non-playables don't have homes, and can't be made pregnant.

But it's easy enough to have a playable ask the target townie to Move In, at which point she'd be playable and could get pregnant if woohooed on the lot she lives on.

labellavienna
24th Aug 2011, 08:22 PM
Sounds creepy to have a random woman move into your house, gets pregnant by your husband several times and never talk about it or caught them in the act. LOL...

Peni Griffin
24th Aug 2011, 09:33 PM
It doesn't have to be the husband who moves her in - any playable who gets a good enough relationship with her can invite her. Also, once she's moved in and becomes playable, she can immediately find her own place and move out. She'll be a permanent playable.

Personally I'd choose or create an existing playable or two or three to act as the sources of his bastard children, if I wanted to do this.

AlexandraSpears
25th Aug 2011, 02:50 PM
I think it's so funny that everyone's up in arms about the pixel doll's affair and potential abortion. Your sims really all have perfect, cookie cutter lives? Where the heck is the fun in that?

Actually, there are some of us who don't care for the drama and find nice, happy families quite fun.

I've had enough drama in my own life.

omglo
26th Aug 2011, 01:36 AM
You have to play the other womans lot, or move the other woman in.or invite her over and use a hack to temporarily make her selectable. But yea, it has to be a playable character.

Aegagropilon
26th Aug 2011, 01:59 AM
My game's ACR-driven "mistakes" have become some of my favorite sims :lol:

The other woman's child may or may not recognize his or her father's wife as "family." The sims recognize stepfamily via a "are we step-family?" check that checks the relationship between a parent and that parent's spouse. The family tag won't show up, but he or she will have only familial interactions available or autonomously do family-only interactions.

maxon
26th Aug 2011, 10:16 AM
The other woman's child may or may not recognize his or her father's wife as "family." The sims recognize stepfamily via a "are we step-family?" check that checks the relationship between a parent and that parent's spouse. The family tag won't show up, but he or she will have only familial interactions available or autonomously do family-only interactions.
Ah yes, that makes sense. Thanks for saving me the time and effort in poking about with SimPE.