The Homicidal Hermit Challenge

[Fivey]

CHALLENGE INTRODUCTION:

You have grown your whole life not trusting people, and when you entered your adult life, that mistrust was taken to a whole new level. You don't even trust your neighbors, damn them. You certainly have the testosterone to take them on, but you are quite convinced that everyone and everything you know is working against you. Naturally, your only choice is to kill them. Kill everyone. The only thing that lets you sleep soundly at night is the hope that someone out...or up there will understand your general misanthropy. Until then, your only buddy is your trusty gun.

MODS TO DOWNLOAD BEFORE ATTEMPTING THIS CHALLENGE:
Either the Disintergrator (http://www.paladins-place.org/zips/objects/SW-Disintegrator-Ray-1.1.zip) , Stink Ray (http://www.paladins-place.org/zips/objects/SW-Stink-Ray-1.1.zip) , or Assault Rifle (http://www.paladins-place.org/zips/objects/SW-Assault-Rifle.zip) from SimWardrobe.com. I prefer the assault rifle myself.

SET UP

You must go into a premade, virgin neighborhood. A neighborhood with a healthy supply of Sims to exterminate. Now empty your family bin into the neighborhood and go through the motions.

Go to create a family, and create a male adult sim. He must have zero outgoing points, and zero nice points. He must be a knowledge sim with the lifetime want to max out 7 skills.

Why so specific, you may ask? Simple.

Any other aspiration or lifetime want requires contact with others. It requires friends. You don't trust a single soul. So, you're not going to have any friends.

Move your sim into any house. It can be from the lot bin or one off the already available lots. Now, listen closely.

RULES

:llama: You shall not have a phone, or computer, or television, or a burglar alarm, or a fire alarm...you get the gist? No items that allow contact to the outside world. Including radios.

:llama: Like I said, no friends. You ARE allowed to befriend stray pets. They seem harmless enough. You seem to relate to wolves anyway.

:llama: You cannot have a job or a car. That boss of yours will clearly give your information to the illuminati or some society of that sort.

:llama: You cannot use money cheats. If you are low on cash, scrape the paint off the walls and shell it out that way. You CAN use the money tree, and I would not recommend the counterfeiter (the fuzz, man). I would allow maxmotives....SPARINGLY. If things get horrifying. Like if smelly, green aspiration Mr. Hermit was about to starve because somebody walked by the second he was about to climb into bed, and he wets himself in the process bad. It will deract points, however.

:llama: YOU DO NOT TRUST A SOUL. YOU MUST KILL AS MANY WALK BYS AS POSSIBLE. IF YOU MISS THEM, THEN YOU MUST KILL THEM THE NEXT TIME THEY WALK BY. NPCs like newsies and postmen are exempt because they are a total clog to the neighborhood and are more damaging to your game to kill than simple townies and premades. They have the annoying ability to be replaced by randoms. You can if you like, but I would not advise it. KILL EVERYONE ELSE THOUGH.

:llama: You may only have children via abduction (hence the adult male factor). They can't have friends until they go to college or move out, and you have to kill anyone they bring over from school. They can't have jobs either. During the period between initial baby bumpness and first birthday, you are allowed to put off your mad killing spree. Unless you don't want to.

OBJECTIVE
Kill (or orphan) off most-to-all the entire pre-made neighborhood. I would say killing 50-100 sims would be a decent amount. You must empty out every house but your own, and kill to the point where the only walkbys are the newsie and postman NPCs. Not only must you be completely insane and kill everyone, but you must also complete your lifetime want and die of a happy old age.

SCORING
:!: GOOD: :!:
1+ for each general kill (adult, teen, elder)
5+ for each child kill (they can't be shot down with the guns, you actually have to stick them in a tiny room and burn them. Which totally isn't annoying at all)
10+ for alien childbirth, 5+ for every alien birth after that
25+ for a good grow up to elder(+50 if you aged up to elder platinum)
10+ for a good grow up for alien kids (15+ if they were platinum. Toddlers and children are a bit easier to get to platinum.)

:!: BAD: :!:
5- for use of maxmotives
25- for aspiration failure
50- for bad grow up to elder
15- for bad child grow up (seriously should not be difficult though)
50- for social worker visit

:here: You automatically lose if you die of a death besides a happy old age, and if there is even a whisper of a soul in the hood (besides the NPCS).

QUESTIONS?
None yet.

ANYTHING ELSE?
I'll probably post pictures of my own relaxed attempt at this challenge. I'm not the type to keep track of every single event, but I have quite a collection of pictures.

[Fivey]

I did say was going to show this.

I hosted my relaxed challenge in Veronaville to test out the viability of it. I never played that neighborhood besides some screwing around.

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This is Flint Hunter, and he doesn't give a drat about anybody but himself.
He doesn't have an affinity for pants, either.

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Welcome wagon is DEATH wagon. They all became tombstones except for Titania, who instead completely vanished when I shot her. No corpse, no tombstone, nil. Strange_Tomato might be onto something with the whole faery thing.

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This picture shows a multitude of things. The stripping of the houses, a fish pond that was utilized in my game for food/cash when I needed it, a growing collection of tombstones, the impact of needs and how it plays into the challenge (he probably was low on energy, seeing how he is in his underpants), and Flint's butt.

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Quite a collection of deaths you have there, Hunter.

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Flint's maniacal laughter and outerwear. In the background, one can see a small room I used for burning children (mostly unsuccessfully, but I had a few deaths in there.) The Energizer is a life saver for this challenge...if your aspiration is high enough. Social and fun will be a huge issue for your mad man as it will prevent him from skill building, which is a big thing for Knowledge Sims. It was for Flint until...

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This happened. (note: though that is a hacked telescope, he was abducted legitimately.)

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Flint faceplants into the cement. Hah.

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HARRGALBLAH. Flint discovers that he in fact is pregnant with alien spawn.

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A few days later, he gives birth in the bathroom (naturally)...

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To TWINS! They have the ultra-original names of Artemis and Apollo. I forgot which was what here. They look the same...wait. Apollo's on the right. He has smaller eyes than his sister. Whatever.

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Though he does lack the capacity to be a decent sim being, he doesn't lack the capacity to be a decent father. I, on the other hand, forget which twin is shown here.

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This is one of the only toddler picture I have of the two. Fighting over a bottle. At night. In the cold. In my defense Flint spent most of the time in the toddly years either shooting down neighbors or teaching toddler skills. Here you can see the gender differences, provided by the sudden instance of hair.

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Artie is a smart one. Not cute, smart.

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Meanwhile, the horde of ghosts get pissed off at the twin's existence.

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Flint just doesn't give a drat. In the side of the picture are the twins as children.

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Family bonding while children roast in the background.

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Now, a glimpse at how jaded Flint has made these kids.
Artemis is making a snow angel RIGHT next to a corpse. AND the grim reaper. All while Apollo is just chillin' in the sidelines. It's like they don't even care.

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"YES. I did it!"
...
"Wait, did somebody just die?"

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Aww, they're hugging! Oh and the reason why Artemis has more pictures in this collection than Apollo is because she does grab more attention while Apollo just stands back. He has max everything except for no points in outgoing and five points in niceness, while his sister is really active and freakishly nice, but took a hit in the other categories. I don't think he minds the lack of attention.

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I had to start moving the tombs off the lot onto a community lot because they kept scaring the kids, and they were making the lot lag a loottttttt. Especially when I was entering or saving the lot.

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The first clear picture of the twins as kids, and the first elderly picture of Flint. I actually didn't get a single picture of the twins as teens, so we'll skip ahead to the part where they move out and go to college (despite Flint's constant insistence that college is evil.)

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Since said twins are now out of the house, Flint gets to work on that skill building he was skipping out on for a while. He already had max Logic due to my insistence on him using the telescope.

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He also takes the time to clear out the last few living controllable sims in the neighborhood. Here's the last survivor of the Capp family (funny enough) being made into swiss after stealing my newspaper about ten times. Stupid Flint is a slowpoke in his old age, and Consort always came by right while the poor hermit was asleep or doing yoga (which he took an eternity to come out of). Meanie.

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That's that, back to yoga.

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Maxing out another skill. Probably mechanical.

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Dear Diary: I miss my kids. Also, the gnomes are going to kill me in my sleep.

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I wasn't able to get a picture of him achieving his LTW, but the first thing he did after maxing out his last skill (the cooking skill) was go make a dish of Lobster Thermidor. Which he burned. Nice going, moron.

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After Perma-platinum and the death of MANY INNOCENT PEOPLE, Flint puts aside his paranoia (only a little), and gets himself...A PHONE! (as seen in the rules, after pretty much beating the challenge, you can allow your psycho one electronic of his choice. Only one.) He decides to invite the kids over the next day.

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The family hanging out, with silly Apollo facing the wrong way. We can forgive Apollo though. You want to know why?

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BECAUSE HE'S ABSOLUTELY ADORABLE. I WANT TO SQUEEZE HIM SO MUCH HE IS SO PREETTTTYYYYYY. More better looking than his sister, anyway.

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She got more of her pollination daddy's features for sure. Although the limelight may follow her on instinct, it isn't because of her natural beauty.

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"AWW YEAH I TOTALLY MAXED THE MAXIS OUT OF MY SKILLSET."
"That's nice dad, I got laid."
That's very interesting, Apollo. By who?

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Did I mention Apollo was rolled by the ACR as a bisexual, but eventually leaned towards gay? Yeah, I stuck him in the Frankie J. household, and went ahead and rolled Francis's gender preference (since it was set at zero). He came out gay. Okay then. You know how all sims who move into a household gain an instant 20 relationship points with the residents?
...
THE FIRST THING THESE TWO DID, COMPLETELY AUTONOMOUSLY, WAS GO WOOHOO IN THE BED. SERIOUSLY, THEY DIDN'T EVEN FLIRT. I HAD NOT MADE THEM INTERACT BEFORE THAT. IT WAS "OH HELLO NEW ROOM MATE. I'LL BE IN THE BED WAITING." I MEAN REALLY, APOLLO HAD HIS FIRST KISS AFTER HE LOST HIS VIRGINITY. HOW DEPRESSING IS THAT?

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I honestly don't mind though. They're happy enough, and when they aren't rolling college wants, they're rolling wants for each other. But really...at least Artie had a CONVERSATION with her love interest before she decided to lose her virginity.

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"Hello! My dad's a serial killer!"
"...who are you, again?"

Maybe not that much better. Anyway, that's her boyfriend. He looks rather homely here, but I gave him a makeover after I moved him in. Not too sure about it though.
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Something about him make me afraid he'll start singing japanese and wearing loli dresses, even if he looks like a stereotypical irishman. The knowledge aspiration he has doesn't help matters. Did I mention he also wants to max out seven skills?

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Flint succeeds at Baked Alaska.

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After about forever, I had Damion finally propose to Artemis (even if he has never shown any interest in commitment. He just likes getting laid.)

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The Worthingtons moved into the large home across from where the Summerdreams used to reside, and got married/joined union/whatever.

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They then adopted Ariel Capp/Worthington, who was incidentally made an orphan by her new grandfather. I am greatly amused.

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I still think they are the cutest couple ever. Of course Flint is in the background derping on the piano (Actually, he's good at it. Remember, maxed out skills).

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The Hunters moved back to Flint's house, then got hitched (Damion took the Hunter last name. Wasn't too fond of Schel). Then she gets knocked up.

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Damion kept rolling wants to play with Apollo for some reason, right after he got married. Which is weird because he was rolling dating and Woohoo wants at the same time. I originally thought it was because Dami was secretly gay for Apollo, but when I checked he wasn't really interested in him at all. No bolts. They just have a good amicable in-lawish friendship.

Alas, all things must end.

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"Hey Flint."
"Wait, why are you here? I didn't kill anyone recen- OHHHHHH."
"Yeah. I'm here for you."

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"Here's your suitcase. Now get the hell out of here, you psychotic savage."
"You're not very nice."
Poor Artie is bawling up a storm. YOUR SNOW ANGEL CAN'T SAVE YOU NOW.

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"D-Damion....my d-dad died..."
"I'm buying an effing television."
"Wha-"

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And that's exactly what he did.

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While her rather apathetic husband is driving off to work, Artemis gives birth.

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They named her Tindy.

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[moonlight_frog]

Pretty cool (but sadistic) challenge. So the challenge ends when the adult male dies?

[Fivey]

Pretty cool (but sadistic) challenge. So the challenge ends when the adult male dies?

Yep! Whenever he dies marks the end of the challenge.

[Fivey]

Anyone want to attempt this? :duck:

[AngryFerret]

Haha, nice. I'm going to try this in Desiderata Valley.
That town just never really interested me.

[ranabluu]

That's a very cool challenge.

[ScentedCandles]

Sounds awesome; I'll definitely be doing this. :)

[julmoo]

I tried this in Riverblossom Hills, however one townie walked past and I tried to shoot her several times, but she survived!
I tried to set her on fire, but she survived again!

I even attempted to cheat by using the inSIMenator's mortality adjustor. Nope. Still alive.

When I gave up the townie directly stared through the fourth wall at me with a look like "I know what you are doing there..."

Then I gave the challenge up and deleted Riverblossom Hills xD

[DasRabennest]

Yup. In my game I can only kill resident Sims with the assault rifle. Don't know why though.

[Elmister]

Hell's ya i'm trying this don't now what homicidal is but all i needed to want to do this challenge was hermit and challenge and i'm in.

[Fivey]

Hell's ya i'm trying this don't now what homicidal is but all i needed to want to do this challenge was hermit and challenge and i'm in.

hom·i·cid·al/ˌhäməˈsīdl/
Adjective:
Of, relating to, or tending toward murder: "he had homicidal tendencies"

[May93]

Does it have to be male? I thought female sims can get pregnant by aliens too?

[Trixie39]

Does it have to be male? I thought female sims can get pregnant by aliens too? I think female Sims can only get alien pregnant through tombstone of L & D.

[Fivey]

I think female Sims can only get alien pregnant through tombstone of L & D.

Or if you have a female alien pregnancy hack. If you do, then I don't see why you can't have a female. I just put male, since males by default are the only ones impreg'd by aliens.

[StrangeTownChick]

i am definitely going to try this, I may post pictures.

[grammapat]

Fivey: absolutely LOVE your story! LOL! & well done! And yes, I wanna do this. Questions: killing all the walk-bys? Won't NEW ones just be generated? killing other playables? I've shot some of them before, & they die - but don't STAY dead! Then if I go to THEIR house they look crispy, but still alive. Someone else talked about inability to kill pre-mades - any ideas? I have cow-plant hack that you can command people on lot to be eaten by - maybe I'll try that.

MONEY!? How is it possible (with no more than the original $20,000) to raise kids and live an entire LIFE with no more money?! I'll put in a pond for fish, but don't think that would help much.
Community/hobby lot? Can he go there? The change in scenery gives him something new to want.

The only reason I can see to have child is because it gives them some social interaction, and wants to fulfill. I have Quads hack - wonder if he would mind roasting some of his OWN kids... I also have 2 hacks that allow him to do (ahem) nasty things to female playables. Ahh, the possibilities!

P.S. You only said friends - does that mean he can GREET people? Just to get them to hang around so he can sneak up on them..

Hope someone else posts pics/stories..or I can remember how to do it.

[grammapat]

Sorry for double posting; I was hoping someone was still here. But even if I didn't follow the rules it was interesting. Some interesting results: after killing about 56 townies the only ones that come around look like hobby/special ones (like Garden Lady, mad scientist,etc). I have a gun and axes, but PLAYABLES can't be killed with them - or they die allright, but come back all toasted. And the suggestion to move kids & others to a "room" & "burn them" didn't work. I put a "cursed vase" with them & every square burned, and the sim burned but didn't die. What DID work was a cow-plant hack.

I have a picture of my reptilian murderer stealing the paper from a house where HIS BABY was laying on the floor. The Social Worker never came; I had to "move out" the baby & drop it on his sidewalk! He had a baby by abduction, plus 10 by playables (& no, they were not friends - he didn't like them & laughed at almost every death). I never saw the last 3 kids walk past, I had him kill the parents, than adopt the kids and then he killed them to. And against the rules, I gave him a phone to be able to "adopt" all his children. If they turn our interesting, he may let them live.

Actually, word must have gotten out that he was an axe murderer; nobody was coming by his house, so I sent him to a community lot (the killer plant works there) and ALL the remaining playables showed up at once, so he was able to kill um all!
I'm actually going to play this out, keep score, and send pics.

[BandGeek]

Hmm...is it bad if this challenge made me feel like screaming "YES!" and then laughing maniacally? I probably would have, but that would have earned me a few weird looks from the other people in the house... :rofl:

I love this challenge! I'm gonna go make me a homicidal hermit! *evil laugh*

*Edit* If I have the Free Time EP, can I use the summon aliens interaction on the telescope (not a cheat, it's part of the EP) to get alien babies? Would that still count toward the score or not?

[swadster]

Why won't my guns work? :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :alarm: :alarm: :alarm: :( :(

[Peni Griffin]

We don't know. What are you doing with them, what are they not doing in return, and have you tested them without your (non-challenge-related) hacks? You may have a conflict or you may be overlooking something in their use.

[tf1058]

I seem to only be able to kill townies on the challenge.

[MuletotheFoxxes]

There's some expansion or other that made visiting sims immortal. You might need the hack to fix that from MATY.