How can I make a graveyard without Nightlife?

[Miru0804]

Yeah, I know that I can just install Nightlife, but I'm not really interested in its theme. If there is a way to build a graveyard without having to install it, I can just avoid unecessary wasting disk space.

And another thing, but lately I've found out that you must not delete sims in the Sims Bin, as well as delete tombstones (thanks to this forum, of course :P ). Which is a little bit late, because I have already tried my hands in deleting 4-5 families and a bunch of tombstones. I know I'm heading to corruption, and I'm freaked out, so if one day I can't just load my custom neighbourhood anymore, what exactly should I do? A comprehensive explanation will be appreciated, since I'm a computer noob, and don't now much about handling files.

And what should I do to get rid of redundant townies? They appear everywhere wearing my custom clothes and hairs after I downloaded them, so I know that they're not pre-made. The game just spawned them itself. And it's quite disturbing because none of those custom contents suit them.

If there are threads similar to mine, you can put the links here :anime:

Thank you so much for spending your time answering my dumb questions. I'm not good at English, so if there are any misunderstandings, just tell me :lovestruc And I'm new here, too :p

[Fivey]

Well, you can make a graveyard all you want. Nothing is stopping you.

But only with fake tombstones.

You can't move real dead people tombstones without NL.

Enjoy


For your other questions:

1. Not being able to access your neighborhood is the climax of the act. What you need to look for is disappearing sims (like if you had a family and then suddenly dad is wiped from existence) or toddlers with incorrect aspirations (you know what? I need to get laid.)

I believe when that happens, there is no turning back.

2. Use J.M. Pescado's No Townie Regen hack.
Go here, click on the acronym which represents your latest expansion pack, and look for the hack. It will be called notownieregen. (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/ffs/)

[maxon]

Yeah Fivey - nothing to be done about the corruption except await armageddon. I can wait. Popcorn?

@OP - you know you are missing quite a lot if you don't have Nightlife. It's not just the theme, NL bought an awful lot of things to the game in terms of game mechanics and features. I would have said it's the 'must have' expansion. In fact, *I'd* choose that expansion if we could only have one even though I am not particularly bothered about the theme either - even over Seasons which I much prefer. Nightlife (especially combined with Seasons, I think) is a bit like the Unleashed expansion for the first game. It really expands gameplay.

[Miru0804]

Thank you guys so much xD

A lot of people have told me that Nightlife has so much fun and all, but I don't know, I just don't find the idea fascinating :p maybe I really has missed a lot :p

And the idea of building a graveyard is not for displaying purpose, but more like for "stocking" purpose. Ever since I found out that you can't delete tombstones, I've been thinking hard about that.

Well maybe I should just install NL ^o^

I'm pretty afraid of corruption. I dont even know we can have such a thing. I haven't faced anything too serious, but oh well.

And thanks for the link xD. It really helps.

[maxon]

As I said though, it's not just the theme, NL also brought this lot:

half walls
cars, garages and driving
the attraction system and chemistry (including turn ons/turn offs etc)
inventories
terrain smoothing
roof slopes - changeable
connecting columns
diagonal pools
lots of social interactions including the 'ask' options and the ability to form social groups
the ability for sims to hold grudges and be furious
outings (in groups)
pleasure and grilled cheese aspirations
some new lifetime wants
the ability to click on a neighbouring lot, save the present lot you are in and move there (this includes the ability to see neighbouring lots)
moving tombstones (and therefore proper cemeteries)
new lot sizes
the ability to place a lot from the houses bin and keep a copy in the lot bin
connecting chairs
rugs
the smustle
photobooth
perfume
ReNuYuSenso Orb

also cheats: unlockCareerRewards, familyfunds cheat, maxmotives, agesimscheat

not to mention dining, dating (dancing together) and vampires and all the other actual NL type activities. I got that lot off the wiki because I couldn't remember them all.

Some features have been carried forward into other expansions but NL really did add an awful lot of stuff to the game - more than any other EP.

[SamanthaSSJ]

I'm another one who doesn't have or want NL but does want a community graveyard. I just don't like the ghosts driving people crazy all the time.
I made a residential lot and decorated it like a graveyard and created a caretaker to live there. Used money cheats so he could afford it. He's a nice old guy and makes friends with everyone - so they can gift tombstones and urns to him. He takes them home and places them on his lot and the families can come visit.
Wish I could have a real community graveyard though, so NL isn't totally out of the question.

[Peni Griffin]

You can't hold grudges or be furious without Nightlife? How on earth can you have any drama at all if nobody can be furious?!?

Dang, I'm glad I never played without this!

[sushigal007]

You can't have ACR without Nightlife as it uses the chemistry system. I got it for that reason alone!

[lizz2034]

I'm another one who doesn't have or want NL but does want a community graveyard. I just don't like the ghosts driving people crazy all the time.


Being able to move your tombstones to a community graveyard would get them off your residential lots and solve your unwanted ghost problem.

[Sunbee]

You don't need Nightlife to have a graveyard. You need an owned business lot for a graveyard. Put your tombstone in the lot owner's inventory and he takes it to the lot in question. OFB works just dandy. Even with NL I use OFB features for graveyards: Pescado says that's the safer way and I don't know anything about coding to argue. Read this thread: http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,12696.msg361019.html#msg361019

You guys. Nightlife was the very last expansion I got. Most of the Nightlife stuff was included with other packs There's a garage door with AL, the restorable car with FT. (There's Numenor's hack as well.) You can use ACR without having Nightlife, as chemistry is implemented elsewhere.

It'd be quicker to list what wasn't available without Nightlife, which was the ask menu, pleasure aspiration, vampires, furiousness, that weird solo dance change that leads to them falling down, and the smustle? I think? Not sure about the last. Pretty sure photobooths were included in something else. Peni, you still make enemies without Nightlife. Who act just like they're always furious anyway--at least for me, maybe that's a relic of thefightclub hack.
That said, I like dates, they're cute. Outings are okay but I would've scored them differently (you're hanging around with your buds, you're having a good time, you see another acquaintance and ask them to join you and you're not having a good time anymore?). I would've done some of the ask things differently, because, seriously, who refuses to tell near strangers what they do. Vampires--well, they're kinda dumb about their special requirements (should be a check for 'is sim a vampire' when bringing them home from school, and one for 'is hour to sunrise' so you can put them in their coffins right before the sun is up without them getting back out). But the immortality and motive freeze appeal for certain uses.

[Ghost sdoj]

Regarding corruption, as the damage has already been done keep multiple copies of your saved game. Then when you discover that Armageddon has struck, you can restore a backup. You can also extract your favorite sims to BodyShop, start a new neighborhood, and use the Sim Blender to give them their skills, relationships, etc. back. You can also keep paintings you liked by taking a screenshot of the painting on the wall, then cropping the wall image off it and resizing the painting to the right size for a custom painting. (You may want to brighten it a little.) Then put it in the custom painting folder and give your sim enough skill to paint a custom painting.

If they have anything that is truly irreplaceable in their inventory, you may want to look at "Moving Sims the Hard Way" in the wiki.

[MuletotheFoxxes]

I believe you can have graveyards with apartment life as well.

My mom had sims getting furious with each other when all she had was pets, as well as chemistry, and inventories. When I installed open for business and seasons I had all those things as well. There's allot from the earlier expansions that get carried over into the later ones.

You can't have a community grave yard with out nightlife, open for business or apartment life. I don't know how well apartment life graveyards work with out nightlife.

Open for business grave yards are trickier, you have to have a small community lot for people to buy, place their graves on, and then sell. So that the graveyard owner can then buy it, pick up the graves, sell it, go to graveyard and place graves. You could have people gift the graves to the graveyard owner, but they'd have to be urns not gravestones for that to work. I've never done it that way, so don't know how safe it is.

[katalina522]

The reason some of you are saying you can have these things without NL is because you have EPs that are *newer* than NL, and they borrow parts of the game engine from it. That's just like if you have Seasons+ you can use CC that came with the game engine overhaul in Pets, even if you don't own Pets.

For anyone who is just playing the base game or base+Uni, NL is still the EP that adds the most significant changes to how the game operates.

If you do *not* have any EPs (or just have Uni), I would recommend Samantha's method for creating a cemetery--build a residential lot with a "caretaker", and either move in your elderly like it's a retirement home or use one of SimLogical's teleporters (http://www.drealm.info/simlogical/sl/Sims2Pages/Sims2_Teleporters.htm) to bring them there just before they die. I would also absolutely suggest getting the Stay-Things Shrub (http://www.drealm.info/simlogical/sl/Sims2Pages/Sims2_MiscHacks.htm) to prevent the accidental disappearance of gravestones when you move sims out of a lot.

Unfortunately, if you lack newer EPs there is no way to "gift" tombstones to anyone as it was NL that introduced the concept of inventories. So IIRC you cannot relocate graves caused by accidental deaths. (The Batbox may enable you to respawn them on another lot, however... I am not 100% sure about that. I know it can work to respawn graves if they accidentally go missing in some cases.)

[Josepina]

You could also resurrect them if you have Uni and unlocked the career reward. Or with a autrociously evil witch from apartment life. Or with the genie from Freetime. Dead sims are a waste of character files.

[MuletotheFoxxes]

If all you have is basegame though, then you'd need the cemetery caretaker to be friends with those about to die before they move in. Merging households came with Uni.

[joandsarah77]

so they can gift tombstones and urns to him

Giving tomb stone/urns via the 'give gift' method is a VBT. Not sure if it causes immediate hood corruption or what, but I know it's only safe to move them using the sims inventory and never by the gifting method.

I find each EP adds a layer to the sims personalities or subtle game changes that are easy to forget about but are things I wouldn't want to be without. I'd totally forgotten about the half walls until Maxon listed it, but gosh I use that all the time. I'm not bothered about the whole downtown nightlife thing, but dating can be really practical. You have a couple married with a toddler and they are rather miserable, they only need a couple of dates to be back in platinum with enough aspiration points to get that container of smart milk for the toddler. Or a pair of adults about to turn elder who never got their LTW and they can also be plat or get some elixir to extend that life bar. The genie lamp has really helped one of my challenge families, but I don't know if that match maker would be around to deliver it without Night Life.

[Miru0804]

I have Seasons and AL and my computer has already been as slow as a slug :( it takes forever to load anything :cry: so I really don't want to install any other EPs if possible. Some of the things maxon listed, like chemistry and furiousness and merging household things have also been carried on to those EPs I have :p but since builiding a cemetery sounds like a hard nut to crack without NL, I think I will just install it anyway :p

[Miru0804]

Oh, and another thing. I made friend with the Headmaster in order to get my kids into private school, but after they got in, I couldn't call him anymore, and I lost him as a friend. Are there any ways to invite him over after your kids has got into private school?

[maxon]

Oh, and another thing. I made friend with the Headmaster in order to get my kids into private school, but after they got in, I couldn't call him anymore, and I lost him as a friend. Are there any ways to invite him over after your kids has got into private school?
Isn't he listed amongst the friends in the phone book?

Also, don't double-post.

[Miru0804]

Isn't he listed amongst the friends in the phone book?

Also, don't double-post.

No, he isn't. At least in mine he isn't.

Ahh yeah sorry :p I will pay more attention :p

[maxon]

No, he isn't. At least in mine he isn't.
Well, he should be. I'm sorry to say that sounds like it might be a problem.

[Darby]

I read recently about the Headmaster being uncontactable. Can't remember if the fix is Paladin's NPC Phonebook Fix or another hack that gives all townies/NPCs cellphones. Was trying to run down that info earlier, but wasn't successful. I'm sorely in need of a nap.

[M.M.A.A.]

I read recently about the Headmaster being uncontactable. Can't remember if the fix is Paladin's NPC Phonebook Fix or another hack that gives all townies/NPCs cellphones. Was trying to run down that info earlier, but wasn't successful. I'm sorely in need of a nap.

Its the fix from simwardrobe: http://www.paladins-place.org/zips/fixes/SW-FreeTime-NPC-Phonebook-Fix.zip

I think I even notice that some of my sims wanted to call the nannies, but I couldn't before installing this mod. He said the issue started after installing FT.

[joandsarah77]

That was a known problem with FT wasn't it? I know I put on a fix for that from simwardrobe, but later I think it got patched... I think. Hazy memory is hazy.

[Miru0804]

I don't have FT. And yesterday I invited the headmaster, but he had changed into someone else :o is it also a problem?

[maxon]

I don't have FT. And yesterday I invited the headmaster, but he had changed into someone else :o is it also a problem?
Oh no, he'll either be one of the other headmasters in the neighbourhood (there are three by default) or the game just made a new one.

[Miru0804]

Phew, I thought it was sth serious ^^ but yesterday I checked all my Sims LTW and relized that one of my toddlers has the want to become Rock God, my Romance Sims want to max out all 7 skills or become criminal mastermind :o well I guess it's finally here :( too bad, I've just install NL a few days ago and the whole dating thing is so pratical if you have a depressed Sims :p I think I'll have to reinstall everything :-<

[Peni Griffin]

No, you don't have to reinstall! Unless you've messed with One of Those Who Must Not Be Messed With (Crumplebottom, Reaper, etc.), you can just start a new neighborhood, or reset if you've been using a preloaded neighborhood. Reinstallation is only necessary when your installation files are broken. It sounds like your neighborhood is broken, but that doesn't mean your game is.

Play a little while in another neighborhood. If those sims are fine, your game is fine.

[Miru0804]

This is my 2nd custom neighbourhood. In my 1st, I did all the stuff like deleting Sims in the Sims Bin, use boolprop without turning it off, deleting tombstones and a bunch of other silly things sometimes caused by my mother :| so I deleted it and make my 2nd, and determined to keep it crystal clear. But I still have all those unreasonable LTWs, despite not having done anything to this neighbourhood yet :(

[Lollopisemis]

When I made my graveyard I had Apartment Life installed... I'm not sure if I had Nightlife at the time, because I uninstall/install new expansions every now and then. Anyway I don't have Nightlife installed now and I have a functional graveyard... I'm not sure what other expansion it is that gives you the graveyard opportunity though, but I think it is Apartment Life... :)

[julmoo]

Can you sell tombstones?

That would be awesome :D
Imagine Cassandra Goth snatching urns and tombstones of lonely Sims and selling them in her basement.

I really want to do this.

Please tell me it won't make my computer explode :D

[sushigal007]

Can you sell tombstones?

That would be awesome :D
Imagine Cassandra Goth snatching urns and tombstones of lonely Sims and selling them in her basement.

I really want to do this.

Please tell me it won't make my computer explode :D

Sounds like a really, really bad idea to me. You could sell fake decorative graves though.

[M.M.A.A.]

Miru0804, make sure you take a look at this too: http://simswiki.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Avoiding_Hood_Corruption