Just when I think I know my sims actions I don't

[Simonut]

Hello simmers, I have been playing my Sims 2 since 2006, we love our sims and may at times take what they can do for granted. Like maybe we think the Sims will do this or that since we play them so often.
Oh my goodness, goodness I had to take a double look at what my Sims wife was during, I was told many years ago by a very close simmer friend ( Simsane ) that this action is "Rare and very Autonomy". But not until yesterday did I see this action with my own eyes while playing one of my household. ( I love suspense ) so I will tell you all right now.

My Sim wife had just come home from a hard day work after getting out of her BMW, instead of her going directly into the house "Out Of The Blue" an orange color like cloth pop into her hand and she was busy, yes very busy cleaning the "Outside Windows" of her home on the ground level. In all the years I have been playing the Sims this is the first for me "ever" to see such action from my sims, how can I even dream of giving up my Sims 2 to play that other one ( you know which one lol ) Just when you think you know what the Sims will do next they will surprise you with a whole new action.

Share what your beloved Sims do that you did not think they could. Have fun. :giggler:

[GEGNER]

There was one time in the beginning of a legacy where a teen girl was part of the welcome wagon.

After greeting her, she immediately starts swinging on the fridge door. Like, she rode it for five hours.

My founder couldn't make lunch meat sandwiches for anyone! I asked her to leave, but sometimes she would come over again just to swing. It became a problem.

[AlexandraSpears]

I've seen the autonomous Clean Windows a *few* times myself.

I have never seen "Tease." Or "Console."

I have seen "Cheer Up" be available (under Appreciate) when the Sim to be cheered up is in a bad (red) mood...like if they get fired, and Fun and Social plummet.

Lately I've been seeing (and canceling) the "Stuff Face" interaction. Instead of actually fixing a meal, my hungry Sims just want to stand in front of the fridge. "Here, Sim, why don't you make some pork chops? More satisfying and you won't be hogging up the fridge!"

(I tend to micromanage big-time.)

[iCad]

Ah, the window washing. Watch out! They can become obsessed with it. Only very neat Sims do it; I think they might even have to have a full 10 neat points, but I'm not sure. And, like I said, once some of them start, they get very, very obsessive about it. As in, you can hardly drag them away from the windows. :lol:

The first time one of my Sims read a child to sleep, I was charmed. I think it's an autonomous-only interaction that came with Apartment Life, so I had never seen it until I got that EP well after it was released. I'm not sure if there's anything that particularly "triggers" that behavior. It would make sense if it was something that Family Sims were more inclined to do, but the one who does it the most in my current game is a single Romance/Knowledge Sim guy, who has an alien baby, a cute little button of a black-haired, pink-skinned daughter with her "mom's" ice-blue eyes. Now that she's a toddler, every time I turn around, he's doting on that baby in some manner. Maybe it's just because, as a single guy with no "standard" job (He's a novelist) and with only a single kid, he has time/energy to do this kind of thing. (My Family folk tend to have large broods close together that take a lot out of them! :lol: ) But whatever, I think it's the sweetest thing ever, and I'm TOTALLY in love with that Sim... :lovestruc

[AlexandraSpears]

I've since found out that teens can read other teens to sleep. Wait...what...? :lol:

I've seen Sims with 8 Neat points clean windows if I remember right.

[iCad]

I've since found out that teens can read other teens to sleep. Wait...what...? :lol:

I had that happen, too, with twin brothers who were really close! One read the other to sleep, and they were both teens. Yeah, that's a little...odd. I mean, I like it that teens can do it, when they do it with younger, pre-teen siblings, but when I was a teen, I would've been annoyed if someone was reading to me when I was trying to go to sleep. :lol: So, I'm thinking that that's an interaction that should be cut off once the "read-ee" finishes childhood. :lol: But even so, I'm glad it's in there. :)

[Issie]

I've yet to see that happen ingame, looks like I have more to look forward to :)

[julmoo]

I've caught a teen boy reading his girlfriend to sleep after they have woohoo-ed. o.O

I think Sims need to have a high film and literature enthusiasm for this to happen.

[omglo]

Ah, the window washing. Watch out! They can become obsessed with it. Only very neat Sims do it; I think they might even have to have a full 10 neat points, but I'm not sure. And, like I said, once some of them start, they get very, very obsessive about it. As in, you can hardly drag them away from the windows. :lol:

The first time one of my Sims read a child to sleep, I was charmed. I think it's an autonomous-only interaction that came with Apartment Life, so I had never seen it until I got that EP well after it was released. You can make that happen by selecting the parent, then clicking on the kid within the small window between them getting in bed and falling asleep.

[WooHoo31]

Wow... I think the coolest auto-action I've seen my sim do is slide down the spiral stairs. :P Although, I think you can actually direct them to do it if you click on the stairs, so it probably doesn't count... My sims are boring. :(

[AlexandraSpears]

For some reason, while I can direct Playful Sims (child or teen) to slide down the cheap spiral stairs...I don't see that interaction on the expensive ones. Yet they'll do it autonomously on any spiral stairs.

[MattShizzle]

I always turn free will off and have for years to prevent undesirable behaviors.

[Simonut]

I always turn free will off and have for years to prevent undesirable behaviors.

I guess everyone have the right to play their game as they please, but I think turning the free will off you miss out on a lot of funny things the sims can do. Yes I'll seen things I did not like seeing the sims do but I never turn off their free will. But if that what you want to do "MattShizzle" it's your playing style if it make you happy than it's cool. ;)

[Saturnfly]

Have never seen the washing windows action D:

I notice when testingcheats is enabled, there's an option to make the windows dirty, does anyone know what that's for?

[HelloBethy]

This isn't too recent, but it happened when I thought I had seen everything in the Sims Life Stories; my sim Lola Tresco was holding her newborn daughter when her husband Mitchell came up behind her, crouched down, wrapped his arms around her body, stood up with his arms still awkwardly around her body and scooped the baby out of Lola's arms from behind then went to feed it. I saw it happen a few other times after that, but never in the Sims 2 which has been a bit disappointing.

[teoMihai1]

I never knew that sims could wash the windows!!!!! This is so cool!!! Does anyone know how to make this interaction appear more frequently?

[sushigal007]

I only ever turn free will off for photo taking, I can't imagine playing and not seeing all the little details that sims do. I've only recently seen a sim feed a cat from their plate and I've yet to see a sim give a static shock from rugs - or window clean.

[beafish123]

My very first sim family was a CAS couple, and the woman was OBSESSED with window washing. She was a virgo i believe. They have very high neat points.

[Orilon]

I only turn freewill off when I'm trying to get the parent to teach the kid how to study otherwise its a hair tearing out experience for me, other wise I leave it on. I never have seen a Sim clean the windows.

[Macaroodle]

I've only ever seen the rug shock prank once or twice because I mostly use custom rugs. But when Cassandra Goth brought her boyfriend Pascal Curious home to meet her family, Alexander did it to him. Maybe that was his initiation, or maybe he was testing his sense of humor. IIRC the prankster (at least) needs to be standing on the rug before the option will come up.

[saskganesh]

I have some free range perma-plat vampires occupying the House of Fallen Trees. Because their needs rarely fall, their autonomous actions frequently include standing in place waiting for stimuli to come to them. Failing that, yeah, a few of them then start washing windows.

And then they stand around some more.

Immortality has its drawbacks.

[iCad]

To quote James T. Kirk: "The problem with immortality is that it's boring."

I kind of tend to agree that it would be exactly that, so if I were immortal, even I, who tends more toward extreme slobbiness, might resort to washing windows to pass the time. :lol:

But yeah, even with free will on, if all motives are full (and with my vamps, they often are), they'll often just stand there. Which is a shame. I like to let my Sims' own actions, what they'll choose to do all by themselves when left to their own devices, guide me in getting to know their personalities. That will influence what I'll have them to do to, say, earn a Creativity point when they roll a want for one. So if they just stand there...Yeah, I don't get to know them as well, so to speak. It's definitely a problem with vamps, and since they're around for a loooooooong time...yeah. :(

[M.M.A.A.]

This isn't too recent, but it happened when I thought I had seen everything in the Sims Life Stories; my sim Lola Tresco was holding her newborn daughter when her husband Mitchell came up behind her, crouched down, wrapped his arms around her body, stood up with his arms still awkwardly around her body and scooped the baby out of Lola's arms from behind then went to feed it. I saw it happen a few other times after that, but never in the Sims 2 which has been a bit disappointing.

Uhhh, are you sure it wasn't a quirky graphical glitch or something? Because I'm trying to imagine it, and if he was behind her trying to take the baby from her, I think it will look... blooper-ish. :S

[Simonut]

I never knew that sims could wash the windows!!!!! This is so cool!!! Does anyone know how to make this interaction appear more frequently?

@ teoMihai1 >>What member beafish123 said in post #18 is true, the Sims that was cleaning her windows in my game have the sun sign "Virgo" like I said in my original post this is the first time I have ever witness this kind of window cleaning action by a sims and I have been playing since 2006. But it is important to know that this action is "Autonomy" meaning this can come into play any time you, the player, have not queued up an interaction for the Sims to do.
When "Free Will" is turn on Sims will smartly go about their business. They will give you ( the player ) commands priority, but they fill any spare moment with activities that benefit them most. How they make those decisions is a funtion of "Autonomy."

I read a very long time ago in the Sims "Prima Official Game Guide Book" under the subject "Advertising" that even if we are not aware of it the Sim is under constant assault. Every interaction with every object on the lot and every potential social interaction calls to your Sim, bragging about how much need satifaction it offers. This call for attention is called "Advertising." It's how Sims autonomously decide what they'll do. They sift through all the possible interactions, adjust them based on the Sim's own personality and need levels and then the Sim select the most beneficial option.

Once an interaction with an advertised item succeeds the interaction is stored in the Sims memory. The Sims "may or may not" chose to use that "Autonomy again for a while. Infact I still have that official game guide book with this information. I think this Window cleaning interaction happen with my Virgo Sims because their personality accerleration is high on "Neat and cleanness." But also if any Sims not just a virgo sims, if they do not have low points in their personality as being "Lazy" and they are very active and have a level of 9 or more 10 in neatness. The window cleaning can happen but only "Autonomy."

[HelloBethy]

Uhhh, are you sure it wasn't a quirky graphical glitch or something? Because I'm trying to imagine it, and if he was behind her trying to take the baby from her, I think it will look... blooper-ish. :S

Well, when I think of it now, what you said makes sense. His arms definitely looked very glitchy and twisted.

[Macaroodle]

Re: advertising- This is why I don't give my sims the most expensive TVs anymore. If they have them, they watch them way too much, and it's really boring.

I still have my Prima guide too! But it's in really bad condition- it's in several pieces now. :lol:

[Orilon]

That is why I wish there was a mod to reduce the advertising of instruments. I don't want to get rid of them completely because Sims do need creativity points, but they are constantly playing them.

[just_jim]

I think one of the funniest things I've seen I my teen half alien girl, Serenity, playing pirate in an empty bathtub.... She's an aquarius, very shy, but her playfulness is 10. She always slides down staircases, and even started a water balloon fight indoors once... there were puddles everywhere.... hehehe. She's a nut, and one of my absolute favorite Sims.

[Dizzy-noodles]

Just last night I was playing, and my toddler started wiggling about 'dancing' to the music on the stereo! It was so cute, and I've never seen it before! :)

[TortureTheNannies]

The only way I found to make the sims wash windows is : build them a house with no furniture for a day. If they are bored of talking to each other, they go outside and wash windows. It is also possible to wash windows with the testing cheats, but you have to direct them. I also had a mother get furious with her toddler and attack.. It must've been testing cheats, because this hasn't happened since.. Furious, yes they get that,but attack a toddler?

[Lerf1950]

Just last night I was playing, and my toddler started wiggling about 'dancing' to the music on the stereo! It was so cute, and I've never seen it before! :)

If you let the toddler dance to the music it will gain a body point...

[LaurellKH]

Yes, I thought I knew all toddler actions and then I have twins and they hugging each other and I'm Awwwwww!

[just_jim]

One of my Virgos will occasionally wash a window. I think her neatness is 9. I've also seen her wash kitchen counters now and then. What I'm wondering is how does a window or counter get dirty to begin with? Is this something that just happens over time, or does something cause it?

[VerDeTerre]

One of my Virgos will occasionally wash a window. I think her neatness is 9. I've also seen her wash kitchen counters now and then. What I'm wondering is how does a window or counter get dirty to begin with? Is this something that just happens over time, or does something cause it? It happens easily in real life what with cooking grease,dust, and dirt particles in the air. I've never seen a Sim clean a window - that's wonderful! It's just funny that they never need to wash clothes, vacuum the floor, or mow the lawn.

[Peni Griffin]

Counters acquire a visibly dirty state as you prepare food on them. Neat sims who have a little idle time while in the kitchen will clean them when they look clean already to the player if they have an idle moment, and I believe this wards off the visible dirty state - at any rate, I hardly ever see a counter get dirty in a house with neat sims.

I suspect that windows get washed when the idle neat sim looks around and absolutely cannot find anything else to clean; which, with my large families and tendency to pair neat sims with dirty ones, would explain why I haven't seen it yet.

[M.M.A.A.]

If you let the toddler dance to the music it will gain a body point...

Really? Because when I saw that, I thought my game got borked up!

[Sunbee]

I have a hack so dancing raises body--I thought that was the cause of my tots gaining body points. At least they're working on their Tsang Footwork Awards, if nothing else!

[MarylenaSTAR]

I have seen toddlers dance to the music many times. But recently I noticed my child sim could Play...Tease their toddler sister instead of the usual Play...Tickle.

[Simonut]

Toddlers dancing to music, that another interaction I have yet to see, in one of my Sim household I have a sweet "Pet Dog " it also was my first time finding out that a toddler will crawl over and cuddle up with the dog. It was such a lovely interaction to see and watch. :lovestruc The funny part is just like in the real world where a dogs can sometime become very protected of a child.

In this household the pet dog is very protected of the toddler. The pet seem not to mind the members of the family closeness to the toddler, but if a Sims friend visitor come and get within distance of the toddler the pet dog bark and growl. This is another interaction that came with Pets Ep so cute and heart touching to see the pet dog trying to protect the toddler.

[maxon]

I know - people complain a lot about Pets but I wouldn't be without some of the pet interactions for anything. The ones with the toddlers are especially cute though the dog always looks half strangled with the hug.

[Darby]

Oh yes! Pets is a bit of a disappointment in that pets are fairly limited, I think, but what they DO do is great.

And the "annoying" behaviors of strays are so easy to avoid, I have little patience with complaints about them. I don't usually even bother fencing lots to keep strays from digging or rolling in flowerbeds in the first place, because it's just not that big a deal to fill in a couple holes now and then. Sims get cleaning skill from it.

ETA: To stay somewhat on-topic, how about seeing ghost sims play with their ghost pets? Or ghosts of sims eaten by the cow plant taunting it all night with ghost meat. :lol:

[Simonut]

I know - people complain a lot about Pets but I wouldn't be without some of the pet interactions for anything. The ones with the toddlers are especially cute though the dog always looks half strangled with the hug.

@ Maxon I agree I love "Pets" to me it add more of a real life reality to the Sims game, they also come with some surprising interactions. I notice once the cat interactions can also be very surprising. One time my single female Sim her "Want " was woohoo.

Everytime I mean everytime her Sim boyfriend would come to visit her, the cat would head straight to the bedroom and get on the bed and would not move. I know there are cheat to somewhat control Pets. ( lol ) but it was so funny to me so I let it be.

So the only way the female Sims got her Woohoo "Want" is I let her go over to his house. Not only do the Sims have actions that can be surprising the Pets can also have surprising interactions. :)

[nikel23]

Recently I was curious about autonomous actions as well, so I used allmenus cheat and click each object one by one to see what kind of "actions" I never see, but sometimes my Sims do it autonomously. Two things I really love is the PlantSim's autonomous reaction "Plants love me?" and "Pick flower" which can be commanded with allmenus. The former makes the PlantSim pick the flower petals and say something about plants love them or not, and the former makes her pick a dandelion and blows it.

[Peni Griffin]

She can shoo the cat off the bed, you know, Simonut. It shouldn't make the relationship go down much. But it's a great action, even if it's coincidence and not hard-coded.

It's a darn shame they never made pets act as living alarm clocks. And in Sims1, they used to have the pets lie on their owner's feet when they played on the computer. It'd be nice to have that back.

[Simonut]

She can shoo the cat off the bed, you know, Simonut. It shouldn't make the relationship go down much. But it's a great action, even if it's coincidence and not hard-coded.

It's a darn shame they never made pets act as living alarm clocks. And in Sims1, they used to have the pets lie on their owner's feet when they played on the computer. It'd be nice to have that back.


@> > Peni Griffin I agree, yes she could have shoo the cat off the bed, but it was so fun to watch the cat do that everytime her boyfriend came over. Hahahaa I would say to myself oh boy you luck out today, no woohoo.

Wow I never played Sims 1 I agree that would be a nice interaction to have back to have the pet lie at the feet of the owner how sweet. Never knew that. :)

[Simonut]

Well I had to come back to say my Sims was"Cleaning Window" again ( it made me happy to see it again ) this time it was in her kitchen. Her Sims husband and two teen girls was standing there watching.

One of the teen girl is very lazy her name is May's she will not even lift her hand to make her bed, but she find no problem playing that darn stereo 24/ 7 ( I am ready to get rid of it. ) nor do she have a problem running to answer the phone, other than that she is a A+ student. :lol: those are her actions and her sister love to destroy the flowers. I am sending both of there butts off to Unversity. They can act silly there. :lol: