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Hates Children Fix and Opt-Out of Caregiver Job for Parents

by Zuperbuu Posted 26th Jun 2018 at 10:13 PM - Updated 17th Jul 2018 at 12:17 AM by Zuperbuu : NEW VERSION! See change-log.
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Fixed HatesChildren not correctly identifying the parents for the buff "ugh! toddlers".
Rebuilt the Caregiver Fix for better stability (this should stop some of the LE).
Added a fix for the Autonomous Baby Relationship gain.
Created a new Three-in-One package with additional tweaks.

Sometimes you just wonder why something doesn't feel right, and after weeks of playing the Sims 4 I noticed a bit of a flaw in the world of parenting: the Hates Children Trait was pointless! But instead of removing the trait, I decided to fix it, along with a few other things connected to the world of parents, who don't like children.

There is one zip file that contains multiple flavours of the mod. The three individual packages are:
1. HatesChildren_Fix.package contains the simple fix for the Hates Children Trait.
2. ParentsCaregiver-OptOut.package allows parents to choose if they want to be a caregiver to a toddler.
NEW! 3. NoAutoRelationshipWithBaby.package means your Sims won't suddenly start out with a relationship of +40 with their newborns.

Then there are combo packages! Want to use two of the three or all of them together, without having three package files? Well these are the options:
1. Hates Children Fix and the Baby Relationship Fix.
2. Caregiver Fix and the Baby Relationship Fix.
3. Hates Children Fix and the Caregiver Fix.
4. All three merged into one.

Please only use one of the packages in the zip and not all of them, it shouldn't do any harm having all in your MODS folder, but just to be safe I wouldn't recommend it. Pop the package you want to use into your mods folder (Electronic Arts/The Sims 4/Mods) and play!

NOTE: Please use WinRAR to extract the files if you encounter difficulties using winzip!


First up on the mod is that Sim Parents can opt-out of being the assigned Caregiver of their toddlers. This stops them autonomously approaching the toddler to check on them, however they will still occasionally approach them to see what they are doing, as they do not lose their parent flag. (I may fix this as well, I haven't decided yet.)
The fix does not automatically remove the caregiver flag from parents, as this would then mean the toddler stands a chance of having nobody assigned to look after them, and that might break the game. You must first enter the Toddler Care pie menu, select "Adopt as Caregiver", let the notification pop up saying your sim is their caregiver, then go back into the pie-menu and click "Remove Care Dependant" in the Toddler Care menu. You only need to do this once per-toddler, as the fix remains even when you restart the game, providing you saved.


Sims with the Hates Children trait will now get the same negative moodlets from their own toddlers and children, just like they do from other Sims kids. You don't need to do anything to make this work, just those who have the Hates Children trait will get the moodlets, so you can still have your happy family...but with one of the parents being angry/tense msot of the time. It makes for some good drama!
This fix does NOT remove any positive buffs the parent with the trait would normally get from their children. Example: A toddler triggers the parent to have the "Ugh, Toddlers!" tense buff from Hates Children, but at the same time the toddler increases a skill and gives that parent the "Growing Up Fast" happy buff from being that toddlers parent.
Opting out of being a caregiver does not remove these positive buffs either. You will need to use a different fix to scrub away those positive moodlets and buffs, a scrubber is included in my WIP Bad Parent Trait mod.


it always bugged me that Sims suddenly had a great relationship from the get-go with their newborns, almost as if they were psychic! Well, in the real world that relationship really needs to be built up from zero. This fix makes that so; by removing all relationship gains from the baby "object" appearing on the lot. This only stops the automatic relationship gain of +40, and does not stop the relationship gaining through social interactions.


Self explanatory! All three of the above merged into one nice package, including a few other tweaks that I use in my own personal game that I didn't think were big enough fixes to warrant their own file. These changes include a change for the Buff_Tuning file for buff_HadBaby_Male, changing it into a tense buff instead of a happy one. I also tweaked the relationship bit tuning files for family_son_daughter to stop autonomous book reading as well, since the amount of times my sims were late for work because they suddenly felt the urge to read to a toddler cannot be counted!


1. Sims with the Hates Children trait will still get positive moodlets/buffs from interacting with their children, or from them growing up. They will also get sad moodlets/buffs when children are taken away. These are normal Sim behaviours and are NOT bugs with the mod. To fix these moodlets, please use my other WIP Mod: Bad Parent Trait.


This mod will not work with other mods that alter the Hates Children Trait, or the behaviour/interaction files for Caregivers/Parenting. Tested with Parenthood DLC, and appears to function as normal.


This mod contains overrides for the following:

(Hates Children FIX) changes Buff_Trait_HatesChildren(Hidden) both Sim Data and Buff Tuning files, to remove the "blacklisted" Parent flags, allowing them to share the same buffs none-parents would get around their own children.
(Opt-Out of Parenting) changes the following interaction, situation and action tuning files: Sim_AddCaregiver, caregiver_SituationToddler, loot_Toddler_RemoverCaregiver, loot_RemoveToddlerCaregivers, sim_RemoveCaregiver and sim_remove_CTCaregiver. These required the blacklisted "Parent" flag to be removed, allowing parent sims to access the "add/remove as caregiver" options in the toddler care pie menu.
(Baby Relationship Fix) changes Action Tuning files for the following: Rel_Gain_Medium_Baby, Rel_Gain_Small_Baby, setting all relationship gain to 0 for the baby object (yes, it's an object).
The Three in One package also has a change for the Buff_Tuning file for buff_HadBaby_Male, changing it into a tense buff instead of a happy one, and the relationship bit tuning file for family_son_daughter, to remove the autonomous book reading.
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Zuperbuu_HatesChildrenFixesandTweaks.zip 54.1 KB 1,652 17th Jul 2018
Basic Download and Install Instructions:

1. Download: Click the download link to save the .rar or .zip file(s) to your computer.

2. Extract: Use 7zip (recommended), WinRAR (Windows) or Stuffit (OS X) to extract the file(s) from the .rar or .zip file(s). OS X also has a built-in utility for that (just rightclick).

3. Please only use one of the packages in the zip and not all three, it shouldn't do any harm having all three in your MODS folder, but just to be safe I wouldn't recommend it. Pop the package you want to use into your mods folder (Electronic Arts/The Sims 4/Mods) and play!

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