I am traumatized for life now

[fragglerocks]

I watched a movie today that I really shouldn't have. :help: Its not that I don't like scary movies or gore. I sat in the theater munching on popcorn and candy through some pretty gross movies-like Cabin fever and the Saw series. I can stomach quite a bit, and can usually remind myself that its just special effects and makeup.

But the movie I'm watched today was by far the most horrifying and disgusting thing I've ever seen. So bad, that I couldn't make it past the hour mark, and believe me when I say that has never happened before. Never have I ever decided not to finish a movie when I was that far into it. I even sat through Swept Away just because I swore it *had* to get better. It didn't. :blink:

The movie is called The Human Centipede. I beg of you, do not put yourself through this movie. You will see the trailers for it, and think "Hmmm, what an interesting concept..." Well its not. Its so beyond interesting, that its frightening to think human minds would not only come up with this idea, but make a movie out of it. Please do not traumatize yourself. Don't make my mistake! :up:

[mangaroo]

I read an article about it yesterday and have no intention of ever watching this film or its sequel. The article included some analysis of what draws people to the genre, suggesting that some people would watch the movie just to prove they could.

(Personally, I love the original Saw. It was a clever -- if gruesome -- film that was horribly watered down by becoming a franchise.)

[schitzwa]

Oh dear, I just watched the trailer. Looks pretty sick :-/

It's one of those you have a face pulled the entire time you watch it -> :wtf:

Terrible choice of emoticon. There is no emoticon for THE FACE.

[jooxis]

Aw damn now you made me want to watch it!

[fragglerocks]

Aw damn now you made me want to watch it!

Maybe I'm just hoping someone with a stronger stomach can watch and tell me how it ended. :lol:

In the beginning of the movie, when the girl was trying to get away and was in the pool, I immediately though-drown yourself! Or, well, I would have rather died drowning than go through that surgery.

The thing about the movie wasn't so much the gore, but the suggestion of it. The whimpering of the victims and all the elements pulling together really made me feel like it was happening to me. The movie is very well shot and written (and supposedly scientifically correct-although I don't see how a person can survive only eating feces their entire life). But I cannot see how anyone could watch this whole movie.

And yeah, I did watch it on a dare.

Schitzwa-the face...lol that's funny. We do need a little "horrified expression" emoticon. :blink: <----something like that but with mouth gaping open.

[simwit]

I guess whoever's the head of the centipede gets the best food, including lots of beans?

[fragglerocks]

I guess whoever's the head of the centipede gets the best food, including lots of beans?

Try dog food on the floor. He surgically cut their knees, so they could never straighten their legs again. He wanted to keep them as a "pet". He did the surgery once before, but on 3 rottweilers (poor doggies!) This movie is just sick.

[Black_Barook!]

Really? I could'nt help laughing my ass off. A human centipede? Am I the only one not surprised that it was a German doctor?

[jooxis]

Really? I could'nt help laughing my ass off.

Yeah, I read that it's actually supposed to be a black comedy but many people didn't "get it".

[Black_Barook!]

It might have helped if they played on the stereotypes of the characters a little...

[Nekowolf]

Try dog food on the floor.
Better than human vomit. Takashi Miike's "Audition"

[Weeaboo]

Wait, you saw this in Theator or on TV?

[fragglerocks]

If you want to watch it now, you'll have to order it on Comcast. But judging by the time it take movies to go from theater to dvd, it shouldn't be long before you can rent a copy.

And Nekowolf...Really? I'm gonna have refrain from Googling that movie. I've had enough gore for a little while. :lol:

[el_flel]

I watched the trailer for that and it's definitely not one for me. I love scary films but there are certain things that scare me in bad way, like zombies or similar (think 28 Days Later) that I just don't like to watch; it's more that I find them disturbing and creepy, than scary. This falls under the 'bad scary' category - same with Saw. However, I can see how it could be considered a black comedy because the whole premise is ludicrous and hard to take seriously but nonetheless, I am not interested in seeing it. Thank you fragglerocks for confirming that for me!

EDIT: I watched one film that really did freak me out - had to make my (ex)-boyfriend turn it off. I can't remember what it was called, but it was about a group of people who went to study a tribe, who, it turns out, do really awful things that I shan't describe here. Apparently it was banned in many countries, and there was a rumour surrounding it that all the things that happened were real (this rumour was not true, however). I cannot remember the name of it now, but it was truly horrible. Not even slightly entertaining and I can't understand how anyone would think that it was.

[simwit]

El_flel, was it Cannibal Holocaust (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078935/)?

[kustirider2]

I saw it. Very disappointed.

*SPOILER*
In the end, the guy at the front slit his throat, and the girl at the back died from infection, leaving the middle girl stuck between them. The police came around and basically chased the DR around the house until they got into the pool room where they both shot each other at the same time and died.

All in all, pretty crappy film. I'm really into horrors and the concept was horrible, but there was hardly any blood/gore.

[el_flel]

El_flel, was it Cannibal Holocaust (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078935/)?That's the one! It was so vile.

[Elyasis]

I like horror concepts that are twisted around so that there is a way to beat the evil. Some way, some how. Or far out things that make me think about the nature of fear.

[fragglerocks]

El_flel, was it Cannibal Holocaust (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078935/)?

Me and my friends all pretty much liked that movie. I think the thing that made it fascinating was how they shot the film. The animal cruelty isn't so bad if you realize that the people they are filming aren't actors, but the actual Amazonian tribes members. And that is how they eat. At least the animals weren't killed and then thrown to the side. They were dinner. Its how we would have to eat if we didn't have someone else to kill our food for us first. The other things, such as the female staking and such isn't so horrible in the sense that I've heard about it before. Its not a new, shocking concept. But the movie was educational if you look at it the right way.

[Sparklycookie]

The worst I've watched was the Doctor Who episode with the alien worm things, I don't think I could last though a movie without having nightmares for the rest of the year D:

Out of curiosity, how scary is/was The Shining? The Simpsons made it look quite tame, but then it's a cartoon.

[el_flel]

I actually watched The Shining for the first time this week and was incredibly underwhelmed. Perhaps it's because I'm reading the book which is amazing and so different to the film or maybe it's a generational thing *, but I really didn't find it scary.

I'm not done reading the book - am just over halfway - but there is a huge amount of content missing that is really integral to the whole storyline. The basics are that Jack is not a bad guy who just randomly goes insane which is how it appears in the film. He is really unhappy, has anger issues and is a recovering alcoholic. He also had an abusive, alcoholic, authoritarian father - all of this stuff is really important. The hotel has a sordid history with a lot of death and the supernatural forces there realise all this stuff about Jack and so manipulate him and THAT is why he goes crazy. Stephen King was really unhappy with the film, and I can understand why. He always puts so much thought into developing his characters and giving them reasons for their actions but the film doesn't reflect this.

* When I say a generational thing, what I mean is that the types of things that my gen are exposed to are far worse than the stuff my parents would have seen at the cinema when they were my age. We've been desensitised to a lot of 'scary' stuff. I actually can really appreciate older horror movies, like Jaws, because they are classics and you have to look at them how the original audience would have, and not compare them to today's films.

[simwit]

Anyone know the name of a movie with a dead mother in the basement? And the house burning down with her still in it?Doesn't ring a bell, but it reminded me of this picture.
http://i39.tinypic.com/2qmixbq.jpg

[Nekowolf]

I just want to say; I think Misery, the book was even more horrific than the movie!

I actually kind of liked Quarantine. The explanation for the cause of everything was, sure, kind of suckish, but what it was, I liked.

Also, I once had a copy of Nosferatu on my PC :P

[Oaktree]

I love scary films but there are certain things that scare me in bad way, like zombies or similar (think 28 Days Later) that I just don't like to watch; it's more that I find them disturbing and creepy, than scary.

I like the creepy horror movies the best. I'm not a huge fan of gory movies, although I can sit through them. I'm just not interested in them. For me, it's psychological horror all the way (28 Days Later being one of my favorites).

[el_flel]

I agree. The best kind of scary movies are ones that make you think, and gore is fine so long as it's relevant and has a point (if that makes sense). I think the reason I don't like zombies is the whole 'virus' aspect, even though I am sort of fascinated by the apocolyptic genre, just is a bit too real I think.

[CmarNYC]

I like horror movies, but not blood-and-gore movies. They're not the same thing. Movies that can scare the crap out of you without a drop of blood are what I really admire. Take the original 'The Haunting' - not one moment of on-screen violence yet a few really nail-biting scenes and one real screamer. Or the 'Weeping Angels' episode of Doctor Who - REALLY creepy.

[jooxis]

I have to wonder if it's movies like this that gives serial killers idea's? What do you think? Seriously I don't think it's funny the kinds of things they put in movies to give sick people idea's.

No they do not. Not in the way you are suggesting. If these movies put "sick ideas" into their heads, they were sick enough to begin with and would've done whatever they've done anyway. People have been doing some sick s**t throughout history, even before horror movies and video games were available.

[Elyasis]

I watch scary movies to steel myself for the possibility of something scary happening to me in my own life. I would hate to be so scared that I could not do anything to help myself. :D

[WayBack]

So you think there is a moral lesson in all of it by watching scary movies? So what is the lesson here learned? Run away from the creepy man who looks like a creepy man? A man doesn't have to be creepy looking at all what it comes right down to it because he could be deceptive and give you the impression that he is a nice guy and it could take months even years before you find out what makes the person really creepy.

Elyasis wrote "I watch [it] to steel myself for the possibility of something scary happening to me in my own life". It doesn't strike me as "Oh my, let's run away from the weird guy!" as you understood it. It's more "Okay, I've seen a head chopped off many times, no time to faint, don't vomit, just run." :lol:

Sometimes, people can be frozen by something horrible happening right before their eyes and when you're in danger, those moments of shock can be lethal. It helps when you're used to that sight. The shock value is gone and you can function, instead of just throwing up, soiling your pants and screaming. So, in a way, watching gory things can be even educational.

[el_flel]

Please enlighten me as to how these movies make you think? In what way do they make you think or cause you to think? What do you think about once you have finished watching some one cut some one to pieces or use them as some kind of creature? What if it did become a reality what would be your thoughts then?Do you even know what a psychological horror (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_horror) is? Because the majority of your questions are actually related to the splatter genre despite the fact that I said I agreed with Oaktree and enjoy psychological horrors. Nowhere have I said that I enjoy watching splatter films, so your questions make no sense. I also have no idea why you felt it appropriate to write in such an accusatory tone, especially since you've completely misinterpreted what I wrote.

IMO psychological horrors are the best kind of scary movie because the filmmaker leaves so much of it to your own imagination, meaning that you have to interpret what is happening and so all the fear is inside your mind rather than laid out in front of you. Gothika. Paranormal Activity. The Blair Witch Project. All films in which the fear-inducing bits are hidden from physical view therefore you have to think to understand what is happening. Fear is a psychological state and these films really play on human fear by putting you in the same position as the characters and therefore making you feel the fear that you would if you were in their position.

Just because someone enjoys the horror genre doesn't mean they are actually going to go out and commit heinous acts themselves. It's incredibly judgemental and narrow-minded of you to say that anyone who writes horror has a sick warped mind. Like Damocles said: "this is art, a movie and not to be taken seriously". I can enjoy scary films but in no way does it mean that I have some hidden desire to run off and do a Scream. The majority of people in this world do actually have the capability to distinguish between reality and a fiction movie.

[WayBack]

I have to disagree with you Oprah (never thought I would say that sentence, lol).

Enjoy your chance :lol: If we all agreed on everything, there would be no discussion and that would be boring.

Because when it happens it's surreal because it's real and happening right now in front of your very own face. Some end up in a mental institution and you wouldn't by watching movies about war... You might fool yourself thinking it will work but it won't.

I know it's not the same and I can see clearly why you disagree with me. Depending on my mood, I might even disagree with myself too :lol: But still, I remember how I used to be squeamish but after years of watching gory stuff, I became desensitised and even the real stuff didn't touch me anymore. So it might work, just clearly not for everyone.

[jooxis]

Do you really think that suggestive thoughts are helpful?

Why would they have to be helpful? Do you want everything in society to be censored just so we can keep the psychopaths at bay? And what more, do you seriously think it makes a difference?

Do you think he had a nice mind to come up with these idea's for a movie? Think about that one now and I would say in my own opinion that the person who wrote the idea's for this movie must have a sick warped mind.

No, you don't need to have a "sick mind" to write a gory horror story - not in the way you are suggesting (as in you're probably suggesting the presence of some mental illness). All you really need is some creativity and a lack of certain inhibitions. I could write a damn sick and twisted horror story if I wanted to and at the same time I couldn't hurt a fly, literally.

When you said people have been doing some sick things through out history then what about the thoughts that others plant in other people's heads that aren't so beneficial?

I don't see what's so beneficial about planting the Bible into people's heads. As a matter of fact it, too, caused people to hurt other people in the same way you are suggesting horror movies do.

Sure movies like this make the person behind them money and it's the glorious money that makes them happy living largely off of how people will pay for this kind of junk

So? And the people who write romantic comedies and action movies are not doing it for the money? Only these "sick" bastards are?

and there will be those who may even lose sleep over a movie like this because I do believe movies like this can give people night mares.

Again, SO WHAT? You can't seriously pretend this is an argument. That's like saying you're afraid of rollercoasters so therefore they shouldn't exist and no one should ride them. No one forces people to watch movies. Some people WANT to be scared by a movie, hence the existence of this genre.


I am most grateful for having the most sensible parents in the world that didn't allow me to go and watch this kind of junk.

And I'm grateful my parents weren't trying to censor every damn thing that I watched. It's good we're both grateful :)

I have in my adult years have seen some horror movies and would I ever go again? Nope not in a life time and I would rather watch something that doesn't fill my mind with such warped depravity.

Good for you. That's your personal taste and it's irrelevant.

My parents made me aware that something like this type of movie would be not in my best interest because I am sensitive to things.

One could probably argue that you are sensitive to such things BECAUSE your parents shielded you from it and taught you it was bad or inacceptable. But I don't want to play psychiatrist now.


I see that people disagree so that must mean that you love evil because think about it if you support movies like this then you support movies that come from sick minds so what does that say for what you believe in? Oh that's right blame it on some thing else like religion or God. What a huge cop out and I mean a cop out!)

You are suggesting that everyone who disagrees with you is a lunatic serial killer or at least has those tendencies. Good luck with pushing that idea onto people. Like el flel said, most people have no problem telling the difference between fantasy and reality.

[el_flel]

Totally agree with everything jooxis has written.

Yes CT, I did read the post and no I'm not suggesting that you likened me to a serial killer, however you have insinuated in previous posts (such as this one "something that doesn't fill my mind with such warped depravity") that people who enjoy horrors are somehow sick minded which is completely not true.

People like being scared. It's funny and gives you an adrenaline rush. It's not unhealthy or strange or bad. If you don't like scary films then no amount of explaining why others' do will ever make sense to you because you simply don't 'get' why people enjoy them. A similar analogy is my dislike of football. People can explain to me why they like it until they are blue in the face, I still won't like it nor understand why they do.

Due to your pretty extreme personal opinion of the genre you are massively overthinking the influence that a horror movie will have on someone. Most people don't take them as seriously as you do. Yes, there have been cases where people have emulated a film but those cases are so incredibly rare that your concern over what someone might do after watching one is really not necessary. It's completely redudant. If someone is going to copy something they've seen in a horror film then it's not the film we need to worry about; it's the person who is clearly dangerous and mentally unstable, and who most likely has ideas of their own.

[jooxis]

I do think movies like that can inspire idea's in some one who won't tell you right away what's going on inside their head but something is brewing. Just look at what happened with Jeffery Dalmer because he was the quiet type that kept that all to himself all his struggles and he never shared that or asked any one what they thought about what he was struggling with? Had he talked to some one perhaps those lives mite have been saved.


You picked a serial killer who has nothing to do with this topic.
What struggles of his? He was sexually turned on by corpses and was what one would call "mentally ill". You think he should have talked to someone about his problems and then all those lives would've been saved? That's pretty naive. Lots of lives would've been saved if the police had been doing their job instead of handing his 14-year-old victim back to him.


From the point of my faith in what I believe yes stuff like this is not good for the mind so I avoid it all together. It doesn't have to mean any thing other then how it is best that I do for me because the mind is not to be taken for granted in the sense that it can be damaging by filling it up with a lot of crap and so I consider stuff like this crap. That's my opinion and if you want you can watch these movies. Go a head and watch them if you want? Just for me it's not helpful or good for me.


I'm completely indifferent as to whether you personally want to watch this stuff or not. Hell, I don't even like to watch this stuff as much as most people do. That's not the issue so you can stop presenting it as an argument.

Or is it some desperate attempt to show off your "higher morals"? I mean, why do you keep emphasizing that you're too good to watch this stuff?


Nope my parents did the right thing for me and I agree with them because I am rather squeamish at things like that so please don't judge me based on what I know they did to help me in what was good for me.No once again I am misunderstood for what I meant but I guess I have to explain what I mean more. I am glad that they choose not to allow this creepy stuff in my life so let that part go okay?


I let that part go. I said I was glad MY parents weren't like that. You can be glad that your parents are the way they are, why would I have a problem with that.


the person while being totally sane wouldn't copy cat what that creepy doctor did in that movie..


So we can agree on that.

Do you really think that there are people out there who commit brutal crimes but would otherwise not be doing so had they not seen some horror movie?

No, I think for some one to write idea's and make it come alive is sick and I say the same thing with music. But hey that's my opinion and you don't have to agree with me if you don't want.

Unless you're a psychologist your diagnosis on someone's mental health isn't going to be taken seriously anyway. :)

[fragglerocks]

Whoa did this thread take off or what? And its such a lively, interesting discussion too! I love it when that happens. I do want to make the point that when I created the title of the thread, I named it in exaggeration and also because a catchy title gets more views. :p

I do like the genre, and gory movies can be okay when the plot line at least makes it worth watching. CT I understand your point, but as you said, we are all different. You are grateful that your parents shielded you from those movies. I think its fantastic that you actually listened to them! That does show that they must be wonderful parents. :) My mom was a good mom, but a single mom and she didn't always have the time to enforce the things she told us to do. So, when she told me to avoid a movie because it was scary...well..I just HAD to see it then. (ah, memories.)

Being scared can be fun. I remember slumber parties with my friends where we would break out the Ouija Board and scare ourselves silly. I still have those great memories, and thinking anything bad or psychotic about it just seems silly.

I can't think of any serial killers that have copied their crimes exactly from a movie, but I can name at least a hundred scary movies that were made about them. Like others have said, the argument is kind of redundant, because its not this huge crisis sweeping the nation, ya know?

If you want to find real horror, watch videos of the bombings in the middle east that happen near schools. Watch children being carried away all bloody and missing limbs, and tell me that parents can shield their children from horror. Its all around us. I think these kinds of movies are inspired by real life, not just one person's mind.

[HystericalParoxysm]

Ya'll seem to be under the mistaken idea that this is the Debate Room. It isn't. So in the words of a rather amusing vampire...

Back your shit down!

Kthx.

[lovetadraw]

Things can be scary w/o being excessively gory. Signs scared me. The Matrix scared me. I don't like "horror" so much, I do like what I call, "chilling" movies. Movies that don't go over-board with blood and guts, but make you think. I DO like the old 30's 40's "Universal Studies Monster movies". Like the Bela Lagosi "Dracula", the old "Wolf-Man" (I'd like to see the new). But Alien and Aliens were great... OH! And the 50's 'War Of The Worlds'!

[jooxis]

Well I saw the movie the other day. I wish I hadn't, cause it's really stupid (although somewhat funny).

[Bananas8338]

The Human Centipede looks disgusting. Thanks for making me want to watch it. :wtf: How do people come up with this kind of stuff anyway? It looks like a twisted porno upchuck fest to me. I still want to watch it thought, just because you advised not to.

As if the movie is "100% Medically Accurate". Humans can't survive on human faeces ... can they?