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Featured upload! [UPDATE] 10 new CAS Sliders (Breast, Hip, Waist, Butt, Head and more)

by jonha Posted 24th Nov 2009 at 5:56 PM - Updated 5th Jan 2012 at 11:45 PM by jonha : Update
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This is a featured upload! It showcases the best talent and creativity available on MTS and in the community.

It seems the Pets patch changed the way the sliders work in game somehow. While they still can be installed and used, there may be some unusual deformations on your sims. So please be aware of that. You may continue to use them if you can live with this, but otherwise please wait until I provide an update. Note that this will probably take some time as I need to reinstall and update the game, find out what things EA changed, maybe adjust the necessary modding tools and finally adjust the sliders to the new behavior (if possible). Seems to be a lot of work? It is. And I don't have much time currently, so please be patient.



As I posted here, I started working on Body Sliders for Sims 3. A beta-version was uploaded in this thread.

Included are:
  • Breast (female teen-elder)
  • Waist (all ages and genders)
  • Hip Size (all ages and genders)
  • Butt (both genders, teen-elder)
  • Head Size (all ages and genders)
  • Shoulder Width (all ages and genders, was experimental before)
  • Neck (all ages and genders)
  • Chest (all ages and genders)
  • Leg width (all ages and genders)
  • Calf (all ages and genders)
The head size slider and the neck slider will appear in the head region, the other sliders will appear in the mouth region until someone manages to create a new region in CAS.

These sliders are genetical and will be always visible. For example, if you use the breast slider on males, there will be no visible changes, but you can influence, what genes they may forward to their children.

These sliders use quite realistic ranges that work well on all fit/fatness states and all clothing. If you require more extreme sims, you can use a slider multiplier hack, as included with Awesomemod or NRaas Master Controller, but look at the issues below.

Known issues:
  • The basic female t-shirt (the first in the list) has some strange bone assignments. I tweaked the breast slider, so it should look okay in most cases, but it may look bad on very thin and very muscular sims with very large breasts. If you want to be sure, install GnatGoSplat's T-Shirt Replacement Meshes fix (highly recommended). This is not needed since LN as EA fixed their meshes.
  • When using a slider hack that increases the slider range, you will notice, that with the waist slider, the upper body and head will shrink on extreme settings, and with the hip and butt slider, legs and feet will shrink. Also, the hands may begin to shake. This is by design and can't be fixed unless you redo/create bone assignments for every mesh. This effect is unnoticeable in the default slider range.
  • The arm position is changed by the waist slider and the hands may intersect with the hip on extreme settings.
  • The sliders aren't affected (or are reset) by the randomize function. (this behavior changed with LN, now the sliders get random values as every other slider)
  • The adult breast slider is rather pointy and unrealistic, but probably still better than the LN slider. I'm working on it.

Slider limits:
The game has a hardcoded limit of 20 sliders per section. This unfornuately means, that you can't install unlimited sliders. As the game already has a lot of sliders, there are only very few free slots:
  • Head & Ears: 2
  • Eyes: 3
  • Nose: 3
  • Mouth: 7
As 2 of my sliders go into the head section and 8 of my sliders go into the mouth section, you can't install all my sliders at the same time without hacks. In this case I suggest installing everything but the calf slider. Also, you have to be careful if you have other sliders installed because they need slots, too.

You can install for example Twallans Master Controller and Master Controller Integration, this Slider Hack, Awesomemod, or any other mod that increases or removes the limit. But all these mods only work for specific game versions (this means if you update the game you will need to update them too, or you will get startup crashes or other issues) and they may conflict with other core mods (Twallans mods don't conflict, because they are no core mod).

If the game is crashing at startup after installing a core mod, or you are getting messages about incompatible mods, you probably
  • use mismatching game/mod versions
  • use multiple core mods at the same time
  • don't have the d3dx9_31.dll in game\bin (only necessary when your mod is not in your my documents directory)

Installation:
You have to install the package labeled BASE in any case, as it contains all the texts for the user interface. Apart from that you can choose freely, what sliders you wish to install, if you make sure, you don't exceed the slider limit.

Please follow the default package installation instructions.

Updating:
If you previously used my 5 (or 6) sliders, just download the new ones and overwrite the old files. Sims will retain their body shape (with the exception of very small tuning changes).



FAQ:
Problem: My game crashes after installing this mod!
Answer: Make sure your slider hack and and your game version are compatible and you don't have old hacks installed. The sliders themselves should not be able crash the game.

Problem: My lip/jaw (or whatever) slider stopped working!
Answer: You are exceeding the slider limit of 20 sliders per section. Please install some mod to remove/increase the slider limit. Or uninstall sliders to stay under the limit.

Problem: It doesn't work!
Answer: Please follow the default package installation instructions.

Problem: It still doesn't work!
Answer: They work. Either you put the packages to the wrong location, or your framework is not properly installed. Maybe try Delphy's Framework tool. Maybe try installing another mod so you can be sure if it's my sliders or a general framework problem.

Problem: I can't find them! / Where do they appear ingame?
Answer: Don't look where the fatness slider is. They are actually facial sliders so they are in Head->General and Mouth->General. See the rightmost screenshot. Try to scroll down.

Problem: I'm too stupid/young/foreign/lazy to understand the install instructions! I still have issues!
Answer: I'm sorry, but I won't explain everything again and I can't tell you more as I already wrote here. If you have a specific question or problem you can ask me, but I won't reply to posts like "I can't get it to work!" or "I don't understand the instructions!". I got several messages from people who had problems, and I just told them to read and follow the descriptions again and then it worked for most of them. So just read and try it again (and then maybe again) and if it still doesn't work and you have some usable problem description, you can pm me or leave a comment. Please note that this download has a lot of comments and I can't reply to all. If you think you have an important topic (and not some random "I can't get it to work"-post where you tried it only one time) and I forgot you, please write a pm which I tend to check more often. But trying to add a comment first is probably a good idea, because other people might be able to help you, too.

Question: Can you make a arm/bodybuilder/eye/height/belly/whatever slider?
Answer: Sorry, I don't have plans to create additional sliders at the moment. There are already a lot of sliders from different people.

Question: Does it work together with Awesomemod or another core mod?
Answer: Yes. If the core mod itself removes the slider limit (as Awesomemod does), everything is fine, else you have to make sure you don't install too many sliders.

Question: Where can I find other sliders?
Answer:(List is incomplete, just google)

Question: Can I use them together?
Answer: Of course. Just make sure, to either stay under the 20 slider limit or otherwise install a core mod that removes the limit (recommended).

Compatibility:
The sliders work with all currently known game versions (tested up to version 1.29) and should work with all future versions, unless EA does big changes to the slider system. In game versions after 1.24 there may be minor deformation issues as explained at the top of the page. They work on PC and Mac. Some people have reported that they work even with The Sims Medieval, but I don't have this game so I can not give you install instructions or support for this.

The possibility of a conflict with other mods is nearly nonexistent as a conflicting mod would need to use the same instance IDs. Therefore a conflict can only happen, if someone wants to produce a conflict, or if someone does a really bad job at cloning my sliders and publishes his/her sliders with the same IDs.

Additional Credits:
I want to thank Delphy for his Small Editors and everyone else, wo did research and wrote tools, that helped me creating this (s3pi, s3pe, MilkShape exporters/importers, Blender, Wolfram Alpha, Gimp, and many more).

Thanks to everyone, who tested this and sent me feedback or translations.

Tags: #breast, #size, #waist, #hip, #butt, #buttock, #slider, #head, #cas, #body

Type:

You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 3
Key: - File was updated after upload was posted
Filename - Tip: You can click the magnifying glass to see the archive contents Size Downloads Date
Jonha_Sliders.zip | Description: --> Install this if you want the sliders. It should work with every game version. Please install the BASE package inside this zip, too. 10.2 KB 1,012,214 24th Nov 2009
Don't forget to Thank the creator after downloading! Use the Thanks button located above the screenshots above.
Basic Download and Install Instructions:

See: Game Help:TS3 CC Basicswiki for a full guide!
 
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Test Subject
#76 Old 26th Nov 2009 at 3:05 AM
Thank you for the case slider. it'll give more of control how big you want the hips, butt, waist, breasts. i agree with you Jonha, not to have the sliders to the extreme or the sim will look jacked-up.
Test Subject
#77 Old 26th Nov 2009 at 3:18 AM
I love these, thankyou so much for all your hard work. You've added amazing dimension to this game, something I think everyone's been wanting for a very long time that EA just failed to deliver on.

Just as a suggestion, because it's something I noticed myself trying to correct nonstop, you know that ribcage area? I mean, beyond making breasts big and using Delphy's breast distance slider, it doesn't really effect the ribcage size to create that true hourglass shape I keep going for. So my big hipped/big breasted sims end up looking a little less than from the front view. Don't know if that can be done, but it's worth the suggestion.

Again, thankyou so much for all your hard work! It's much appreciated.



Scratch that, I just read that you're working on it and it's had some issues. Man you think of everything!


*massive massive massive kudos*
Field Researcher
#78 Old 26th Nov 2009 at 5:05 AM
These are fantastic. Thanks so much for adding the shoulder sliders, too. Now I can finally make a more realistic version of my husband.
Test Subject
#79 Old 26th Nov 2009 at 8:08 AM
Jonha Thanks so much for all the hard work, I'm using your sliders and just the height slider and shape wise, my sims look amazing. wanna make alot of sims with these of all heights, shapes and sizes, and repopulate the whole town. cant wait to see the result of that. only thing i can hope for is to eventually find a short height slider. oh yeah, and larger eyes would be cool too. Jonha thanks again! Your Awesome! keep up the good work.
Test Subject
#80 Old 26th Nov 2009 at 1:29 PM
Really thank you for this amazing mod!!
Can you add Korean translations, too?

- Breast size: 가슴 둘레
- Waist size : 허리 둘레
- Hip size/pelvis width : 골반 크기
- Butt Size : 엉덩이 둘레
- Head Size : 머리 크기

If you need any additional information, plz let me know.
Thanks again!

SAU ★ the Sims Artists Union - http://blog.daum.net/saublog
Test Subject
#81 Old 26th Nov 2009 at 3:55 PM
Genius thanks jonha
Field Researcher
#82 Old 26th Nov 2009 at 10:33 PM
Cool, unfortunitly i have WA and my coputer has a virus and downloads dont go into my game so i cant download it.
Test Subject
#83 Old 26th Nov 2009 at 10:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonha
Too many sliders in this area.



Nearly impossible, It would scale the legs, too and that would result in major deformation and crouching.


Right.



This is an issue with too many sliders, as before.



I merged it with the shoulder slider because there were major intersections with the arms.

Look at the last page of the beta thread, there is a separate chest slider together with an older version of the shoulder slider. For your private use, this should be okay.



Yes, should be easy. I will try it, when I have time, I will be away the next days.


Awesome! I can't wait, and thank you so much! :D

Sims 3 story is here http://petalpaths.wordpress.com
Test Subject
#84 Old 27th Nov 2009 at 3:36 AM
i love it. now those sexy dresses look better too...
Lab Assistant
#85 Old 27th Nov 2009 at 4:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Audrey
First of all, thank you for these. You and Delphy are genius. I'll be downloading them.

EDIT: The next most wanted slider I would think would be chest width.

Well, for me, the next most wanted slider would be horizontal eye stretching, followed by eyebrow thickeners and then ear up and down sliders since I build a lot of sims.

However, your sliders will be great for creating realistic celeb sims. Thanks again.


I'm testing eye-width now.
By brow thickness, did you mean vertically? Or brow depth?
And I can't help the ears, I haven't figured out how to do movement sliders, only scalar. I'll mess around some other day to figure those out.
Test Subject
#86 Old 27th Nov 2009 at 7:45 AM
Thanks for this really cool mod but could you add those translation for FRENCH please :

- Breast size: Tour de poitrine
- Waist size : Tour de taille
- Hip size/pelvis width : Largeur des hanches
- Butt Size : Taille des fesses
- Head Size : Taille de la tête

Thanks.
Test Subject
#87 Old 27th Nov 2009 at 8:34 AM
Hi I have added this mod to my game and I see the sliders but when I use them they do not seem to have an affect on the sim I am creating. Do you have any idea why this might be?

Like I said I see the sliders and when I move them right or left they aren't doing anything. I also have AW but have the mod in Sim's 3 mod.
Test Subject
#88 Old 27th Nov 2009 at 11:05 AM
I love this!
Lab Assistant
#89 Old 27th Nov 2009 at 3:07 PM
These are absolutely fantastic!! Thank you so much! ^_^b
Test Subject
#90 Old 27th Nov 2009 at 4:39 PM
Does anybody know if this works with world adventures 2.0.86
Lab Assistant
#91 Old 27th Nov 2009 at 4:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arwen0423
Awesome. Thank you for all your effort! Maybe once we'll really have a game without limits, and your work is a great advance towards that.

Oh and btw, the Hungarian translation would be like this:
-Breast size: Mellméret
-Waist size : Derékméret
-Hip size/pelvis width : Csípő-/Medenceméret
-Butt Size : Fenékméret
-Head Size : Fejméret


Hungarian translation would be great!
Test Subject
#92 Old 27th Nov 2009 at 6:32 PM
OMG if this works with patch 1.7.9 then you've just turned my bad day into an awesome one!! You're a genius XD
Test Subject
#93 Old 27th Nov 2009 at 6:39 PM
Best thing ever man.. I really like the hip waist and butt slides... Now i can make some really good babes in my sim town... Thanks again man!
Test Subject
#94 Old 28th Nov 2009 at 3:08 AM
Thank You!!!
Lab Assistant
#95 Old 28th Nov 2009 at 4:08 AM
Thank you, now I'm off to test them! :-D
Test Subject
#96 Old 28th Nov 2009 at 4:45 AM
Ok. I have WA and all of the patches. I also have no other custom content either. Here is my problem:

When I go in game, none of the sliders are showing up. Before the patch I used Delphy's Breast slider but since yours includes breasts I got rid of it. Now after the patch that won't even work.

I am putting the packages in the mods folder in my WA folder. If anyone can help, I would appreciate it!
Test Subject
#97 Old 28th Nov 2009 at 7:42 AM
Jonha, will you create a neck slider for Sims 3? I would be happy if you do that.
Lab Assistant
#98 Old 28th Nov 2009 at 12:40 PM
Thanks again for your sliders. Like master215 I would appreciate if you could make neck slider as well, and maybe keep the head, shoulder and neck sliders together under the head section so that your breast slider still can be used in combination with Delhpy's breast sliders.

I use 3 of Delphy's breast sliders, and the reason I do that is, that I find that your breast slider gives the breast a more natural look (especially regarding the nipples position) when combine with the breast vertical slider, the breast depth slider and the breast scale slider, but mostly it's because I find, that using your breast slider alone does not work as well for teenagers and elders breasts as for the young adults and adults breast. Correction: The slider it self works just fine, it's just that it does not give as natural and variated look to these two agegroups breasts, and as my daugther is playing Sims, I really would like for her to learn and understand by playing with the bodysliders that nudity and variations of bodyshape are natural and covers all ages in real life. I can report, the she and her friends discovers a lot about them selfs and others being allow to do so. Most of all they learn to understand, that even the best of friends has differences in taste and oppions when it comes to looks and shapes, and the best part is that they also learn to meet and make space for each others preferences despite their differences. So thank you very much jonha - and Delphy as well - for these possibilities.
Lab Assistant
#99 Old 28th Nov 2009 at 2:21 PM
Thanks! This Is Sooooooooo Awsome! <333
Test Subject
#100 Old 28th Nov 2009 at 3:20 PM
this is great but i'm afraid it will conflict whits the breast sliders hack i use
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