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Featured upload! [UPDATE] 10 new CAS Sliders (Breast, Hip, Waist, Butt, Head and more)

by jonha Posted 24th Nov 2009 at 4:56 PM - Updated 5th Jan 2012 at 10:45 PM by jonha : Update
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This is a featured upload! It showcases the best talent and creativity available on MTS and in the community.

It seems the Pets patch changed the way the sliders work in game somehow. While they still can be installed and used, there may be some unusual deformations on your sims. So please be aware of that. You may continue to use them if you can live with this, but otherwise please wait until I provide an update. Note that this will probably take some time as I need to reinstall and update the game, find out what things EA changed, maybe adjust the necessary modding tools and finally adjust the sliders to the new behavior (if possible). Seems to be a lot of work? It is. And I don't have much time currently, so please be patient.



As I posted here, I started working on Body Sliders for Sims 3. A beta-version was uploaded in this thread.

Included are:
  • Breast (female teen-elder)
  • Waist (all ages and genders)
  • Hip Size (all ages and genders)
  • Butt (both genders, teen-elder)
  • Head Size (all ages and genders)
  • Shoulder Width (all ages and genders, was experimental before)
  • Neck (all ages and genders)
  • Chest (all ages and genders)
  • Leg width (all ages and genders)
  • Calf (all ages and genders)
The head size slider and the neck slider will appear in the head region, the other sliders will appear in the mouth region until someone manages to create a new region in CAS.

These sliders are genetical and will be always visible. For example, if you use the breast slider on males, there will be no visible changes, but you can influence, what genes they may forward to their children.

These sliders use quite realistic ranges that work well on all fit/fatness states and all clothing. If you require more extreme sims, you can use a slider multiplier hack, as included with Awesomemod or NRaas Master Controller, but look at the issues below.

Known issues:
  • The basic female t-shirt (the first in the list) has some strange bone assignments. I tweaked the breast slider, so it should look okay in most cases, but it may look bad on very thin and very muscular sims with very large breasts. If you want to be sure, install GnatGoSplat's T-Shirt Replacement Meshes fix (highly recommended). This is not needed since LN as EA fixed their meshes.
  • When using a slider hack that increases the slider range, you will notice, that with the waist slider, the upper body and head will shrink on extreme settings, and with the hip and butt slider, legs and feet will shrink. Also, the hands may begin to shake. This is by design and can't be fixed unless you redo/create bone assignments for every mesh. This effect is unnoticeable in the default slider range.
  • The arm position is changed by the waist slider and the hands may intersect with the hip on extreme settings.
  • The sliders aren't affected (or are reset) by the randomize function. (this behavior changed with LN, now the sliders get random values as every other slider)
  • The adult breast slider is rather pointy and unrealistic, but probably still better than the LN slider. I'm working on it.

Slider limits:
The game has a hardcoded limit of 20 sliders per section. This unfornuately means, that you can't install unlimited sliders. As the game already has a lot of sliders, there are only very few free slots:
  • Head & Ears: 2
  • Eyes: 3
  • Nose: 3
  • Mouth: 7
As 2 of my sliders go into the head section and 8 of my sliders go into the mouth section, you can't install all my sliders at the same time without hacks. In this case I suggest installing everything but the calf slider. Also, you have to be careful if you have other sliders installed because they need slots, too.

You can install for example Twallans Master Controller and Master Controller Integration, this Slider Hack, Awesomemod, or any other mod that increases or removes the limit. But all these mods only work for specific game versions (this means if you update the game you will need to update them too, or you will get startup crashes or other issues) and they may conflict with other core mods (Twallans mods don't conflict, because they are no core mod).

If the game is crashing at startup after installing a core mod, or you are getting messages about incompatible mods, you probably
  • use mismatching game/mod versions
  • use multiple core mods at the same time
  • don't have the d3dx9_31.dll in game\bin (only necessary when your mod is not in your my documents directory)

Installation:
You have to install the package labeled BASE in any case, as it contains all the texts for the user interface. Apart from that you can choose freely, what sliders you wish to install, if you make sure, you don't exceed the slider limit.

Please follow the default package installation instructions.

Updating:
If you previously used my 5 (or 6) sliders, just download the new ones and overwrite the old files. Sims will retain their body shape (with the exception of very small tuning changes).



FAQ:
Problem: My game crashes after installing this mod!
Answer: Make sure your slider hack and and your game version are compatible and you don't have old hacks installed. The sliders themselves should not be able crash the game.

Problem: My lip/jaw (or whatever) slider stopped working!
Answer: You are exceeding the slider limit of 20 sliders per section. Please install some mod to remove/increase the slider limit. Or uninstall sliders to stay under the limit.

Problem: It doesn't work!
Answer: Please follow the default package installation instructions.

Problem: It still doesn't work!
Answer: They work. Either you put the packages to the wrong location, or your framework is not properly installed. Maybe try Delphy's Framework tool. Maybe try installing another mod so you can be sure if it's my sliders or a general framework problem.

Problem: I can't find them! / Where do they appear ingame?
Answer: Don't look where the fatness slider is. They are actually facial sliders so they are in Head->General and Mouth->General. See the rightmost screenshot. Try to scroll down.

Problem: I'm too stupid/young/foreign/lazy to understand the install instructions! I still have issues!
Answer: I'm sorry, but I won't explain everything again and I can't tell you more as I already wrote here. If you have a specific question or problem you can ask me, but I won't reply to posts like "I can't get it to work!" or "I don't understand the instructions!". I got several messages from people who had problems, and I just told them to read and follow the descriptions again and then it worked for most of them. So just read and try it again (and then maybe again) and if it still doesn't work and you have some usable problem description, you can pm me or leave a comment. Please note that this download has a lot of comments and I can't reply to all. If you think you have an important topic (and not some random "I can't get it to work"-post where you tried it only one time) and I forgot you, please write a pm which I tend to check more often. But trying to add a comment first is probably a good idea, because other people might be able to help you, too.

Question: Can you make a arm/bodybuilder/eye/height/belly/whatever slider?
Answer: Sorry, I don't have plans to create additional sliders at the moment. There are already a lot of sliders from different people.

Question: Does it work together with Awesomemod or another core mod?
Answer: Yes. If the core mod itself removes the slider limit (as Awesomemod does), everything is fine, else you have to make sure you don't install too many sliders.

Question: Where can I find other sliders?
Answer:(List is incomplete, just google)

Question: Can I use them together?
Answer: Of course. Just make sure, to either stay under the 20 slider limit or otherwise install a core mod that removes the limit (recommended).

Compatibility:
The sliders work with all currently known game versions (tested up to version 1.29) and should work with all future versions, unless EA does big changes to the slider system. In game versions after 1.24 there may be minor deformation issues as explained at the top of the page. They work on PC and Mac. Some people have reported that they work even with The Sims Medieval, but I don't have this game so I can not give you install instructions or support for this.

The possibility of a conflict with other mods is nearly nonexistent as a conflicting mod would need to use the same instance IDs. Therefore a conflict can only happen, if someone wants to produce a conflict, or if someone does a really bad job at cloning my sliders and publishes his/her sliders with the same IDs.

Additional Credits:
I want to thank Delphy for his Small Editors and everyone else, wo did research and wrote tools, that helped me creating this (s3pi, s3pe, MilkShape exporters/importers, Blender, Wolfram Alpha, Gimp, and many more).

Thanks to everyone, who tested this and sent me feedback or translations.

Tags: #breast, #size, #waist, #hip, #butt, #buttock, #slider, #head, #cas, #body

Type:

You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 3
Key: - File was updated after upload was posted
Filename - Tip: You can click the magnifying glass to see the archive contents Size Downloads Date
Jonha_Sliders.zip | Description: --> Install this if you want the sliders. It should work with every game version. Please install the BASE package inside this zip, too. 10.2 KB 1,008,024 24th Nov 2009
Don't forget to Thank the creator after downloading! Use the Thanks button located above the screenshots above.
Basic Download and Install Instructions:

See: Game Help:TS3 CC Basicswiki for a full guide!
 
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Lab Assistant
#26 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 8:30 PM
you are so awesome, i can't wait to play this. so let me get this straight, when they do update awesomemod to work with world adventures, it'll be fine just as long as i don't go to the extremes of minimal or maximum? is there a chance that with awesomemod that there might be extreme versions of sims walking around with hack? i'm just wondering.
Scholar
Original Poster
#27 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 8:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by babygirl4595
you are so awesome, i can't wait to play this. so let me get this straight, when they do update awesomemod to work with world adventures, it'll be fine just as long as i don't go to the extremes of minimal or maximum?


There is absolutely no problem, to use this mod together with Awesomemod. And even if you enable the slider hack in Awesomemod (which isn't enabled by default) you still can use safe values. And if you do not, the only problem will be body/head deformation and extreme hand shaking.
Inventor
#28 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 9:11 PM
These are sooo awesome!!! The best mod out there since Delphys boob slider!! Thank you so much for making this!!!! :D

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Test Subject
#29 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 9:32 PM
what happens if i already have delphy's breast sliders? will this just overwrite, or should i just not install the breast part, or what?
Test Subject
#30 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 9:38 PM
Thanks!
Scholar
Original Poster
#31 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 9:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stevieo70
what happens if i already have delphy's breast sliders? will this just overwrite, or should i just not install the breast part, or what?


No, they won't overwrite each other. They just add together. For example if you make big breasts with Delphy's slider and then put my slider to the maximum, the breasts will get even bigger.

The only problem is the limit of free slider slots, because you can only have 9 sliders in the mouth area (or 8 with WA/the new patch).

But if you have installed S3Z's mod or the new awesomemod beta you can forget about that.
Inventor
#32 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 9:52 PM
Thanks so much I'm glad these came out of Beta, As soon as my sim comes home from China I will shut down and install the new version. I use these together with Delphy's sliders for Fullness and Scale I also am testing the new Beta AwesomeMod so the sliders can be pushed just a bit further. Thanks for all your hard work.
Instructor
#33 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 9:58 PM
OMG YES more sliders yay! they are so important to me. can't wait to test them. many thanks ^_^
Lab Assistant
#34 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 10:34 PM
For some reason, every time I put in a head slider (even when I make them myself), all the jaw sliders stop working. You can move them, but nothing changes.

And maybe changing the butt slider isn't the right move? Maybe adding another one, like butt height, ('Y' scaling) or something to that effect. But, that might mean throwing in opposite sliders for the torso and upper legs to compensate, which may be too big a pain in the ass.

Also, pelvis sliders change the head size, not the pelvis.
^ That may be due to the fact that I have other sliders, so you might wanna confirm it before working too much on it.



EDIT: The next most wanted slider I would think would be chest width. The hips, waist, and shoulders can be scaled, but when pushed to the extremes, the chest gets too out-of-proportion.



All in all, awesome work, it makes the game so much better!
Test Subject
#35 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 11:08 PM
Love the sliders-got them while they were in testing actually, and have loved them since! Question:could sliders for feet be done? Making my self sim short and petite is now easy, but the feet look so long, especially in shoes!

Sims 3 story is here http://petalpaths.wordpress.com
Scholar
Original Poster
#36 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 11:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SkankBenSkank
For some reason, every time I put in a head slider (even when I make them myself), all the jaw sliders stop working. You can move them, but nothing changes.


Too many sliders in this area.

Quote:
And maybe changing the butt slider isn't the right move? Maybe adding another one, like butt height, ('Y' scaling) or something to that effect.


Nearly impossible, It would scale the legs, too and that would result in major deformation and crouching.

Quote:
But, that might mean throwing in opposite sliders for the torso and upper legs to compensate, which may be too big a pain in the ass.

Right.

Quote:
Also, pelvis sliders change the head size, not the pelvis.
^ That may be due to the fact that I have other sliders, so you might wanna confirm it before working too much on it.


This is an issue with too many sliders, as before.

Quote:
EDIT: The next most wanted slider I would think would be chest width. The hips, waist, and shoulders can be scaled, but when pushed to the extremes, the chest gets too out-of-proportion.


I merged it with the shoulder slider because there were major intersections with the arms.

Look at the last page of the beta thread, there is a separate chest slider together with an older version of the shoulder slider. For your private use, this should be okay.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZombieBoPeep
Love the sliders-got them while they were in testing actually, and have loved them since! Question:could sliders for feet be done? Making my self sim short and petite is now easy, but the feet look so long, especially in shoes!


Yes, should be easy. I will try it, when I have time, I will be away the next days.
Lab Assistant
#37 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 11:38 PM
ZOMG!, these are just great, thank you so much for posting :D
Forum Resident
#38 Old 24th Nov 2009 at 11:53 PM
I really like these. I used the Beta version and they worked great with Delphy's and AM.
Lab Assistant
#39 Old 25th Nov 2009 at 12:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZombieBoPeep
Love the sliders-got them while they were in testing actually, and have loved them since! Question:could sliders for feet be done? Making my self sim short and petite is now easy, but the feet look so long, especially in shoes!


How did you make your sim short?

Cheers! =D

lkandak
Test Subject
#40 Old 25th Nov 2009 at 12:24 AM
is this compatible with WA?
Test Subject
#41 Old 25th Nov 2009 at 1:35 AM
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Test Subject
#42 Old 25th Nov 2009 at 1:48 AM
This looks cool! Downloading now!

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Scholar
#43 Old 25th Nov 2009 at 1:54 AM
Wow! This looks fabulous; can't wait to try it.

Thanks for all your hard work!

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Lab Assistant
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Lab Assistant
#44 Old 25th Nov 2009 at 3:06 AM
Funny thing is just the other day my friend and i were saying that we wished there was some way to make bigger butts to match the breasts. Thanks this is really great.
Lab Assistant
#45 Old 25th Nov 2009 at 3:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 456654
is this compatible with WA?


Jonha stated that in her post already. :/


Compatibility:
The mod has been tested with patch 1.4, 1.6, 1.7 and with WA v2.2. It should work on PC and Mac.

Gawd, I'm loving S3!!
Test Subject
#46 Old 25th Nov 2009 at 4:30 AM
Im still trying to get mine to work but thanks for loading this!
Lab Assistant
#47 Old 25th Nov 2009 at 5:34 AM
Thanks a million I have downloaded and will be installing in moments
Test Subject
#48 Old 25th Nov 2009 at 5:50 AM
Very impressive! This was exactly what CAS was missing. Works nicely too (with latest November 1.7. patch)
Forum Resident
#49 Old 25th Nov 2009 at 7:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonha
I already got a translation to dutch a few minutes before: http://www.modthesims.info/showpost...1&postcount=166

Anyway, i just used
breast size
head size
etc. as it states on the front page.

Btw: English is not my mother tongue, so it you have improvements to the english texts, i will take them, too, of course.


No that's just fine
Great to have more language options for this hack!
Thanks again!

Creator and owner of SimsShine
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