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Featured upload! [UPDATE] 10 new CAS Sliders (Breast, Hip, Waist, Butt, Head and more)

by jonha Posted 24th Nov 2009 at 4:56 PM - Updated 5th Jan 2012 at 10:45 PM by jonha : Update
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This is a featured upload! It showcases the best talent and creativity available on MTS and in the community.

It seems the Pets patch changed the way the sliders work in game somehow. While they still can be installed and used, there may be some unusual deformations on your sims. So please be aware of that. You may continue to use them if you can live with this, but otherwise please wait until I provide an update. Note that this will probably take some time as I need to reinstall and update the game, find out what things EA changed, maybe adjust the necessary modding tools and finally adjust the sliders to the new behavior (if possible). Seems to be a lot of work? It is. And I don't have much time currently, so please be patient.



As I posted here, I started working on Body Sliders for Sims 3. A beta-version was uploaded in this thread.

Included are:
  • Breast (female teen-elder)
  • Waist (all ages and genders)
  • Hip Size (all ages and genders)
  • Butt (both genders, teen-elder)
  • Head Size (all ages and genders)
  • Shoulder Width (all ages and genders, was experimental before)
  • Neck (all ages and genders)
  • Chest (all ages and genders)
  • Leg width (all ages and genders)
  • Calf (all ages and genders)
The head size slider and the neck slider will appear in the head region, the other sliders will appear in the mouth region until someone manages to create a new region in CAS.

These sliders are genetical and will be always visible. For example, if you use the breast slider on males, there will be no visible changes, but you can influence, what genes they may forward to their children.

These sliders use quite realistic ranges that work well on all fit/fatness states and all clothing. If you require more extreme sims, you can use a slider multiplier hack, as included with Awesomemod or NRaas Master Controller, but look at the issues below.

Known issues:
  • The basic female t-shirt (the first in the list) has some strange bone assignments. I tweaked the breast slider, so it should look okay in most cases, but it may look bad on very thin and very muscular sims with very large breasts. If you want to be sure, install GnatGoSplat's T-Shirt Replacement Meshes fix (highly recommended). This is not needed since LN as EA fixed their meshes.
  • When using a slider hack that increases the slider range, you will notice, that with the waist slider, the upper body and head will shrink on extreme settings, and with the hip and butt slider, legs and feet will shrink. Also, the hands may begin to shake. This is by design and can't be fixed unless you redo/create bone assignments for every mesh. This effect is unnoticeable in the default slider range.
  • The arm position is changed by the waist slider and the hands may intersect with the hip on extreme settings.
  • The sliders aren't affected (or are reset) by the randomize function. (this behavior changed with LN, now the sliders get random values as every other slider)
  • The adult breast slider is rather pointy and unrealistic, but probably still better than the LN slider. I'm working on it.

Slider limits:
The game has a hardcoded limit of 20 sliders per section. This unfornuately means, that you can't install unlimited sliders. As the game already has a lot of sliders, there are only very few free slots:
  • Head & Ears: 2
  • Eyes: 3
  • Nose: 3
  • Mouth: 7
As 2 of my sliders go into the head section and 8 of my sliders go into the mouth section, you can't install all my sliders at the same time without hacks. In this case I suggest installing everything but the calf slider. Also, you have to be careful if you have other sliders installed because they need slots, too.

You can install for example Twallans Master Controller and Master Controller Integration, this Slider Hack, Awesomemod, or any other mod that increases or removes the limit. But all these mods only work for specific game versions (this means if you update the game you will need to update them too, or you will get startup crashes or other issues) and they may conflict with other core mods (Twallans mods don't conflict, because they are no core mod).

If the game is crashing at startup after installing a core mod, or you are getting messages about incompatible mods, you probably
  • use mismatching game/mod versions
  • use multiple core mods at the same time
  • don't have the d3dx9_31.dll in game\bin (only necessary when your mod is not in your my documents directory)

Installation:
You have to install the package labeled BASE in any case, as it contains all the texts for the user interface. Apart from that you can choose freely, what sliders you wish to install, if you make sure, you don't exceed the slider limit.

Please follow the default package installation instructions.

Updating:
If you previously used my 5 (or 6) sliders, just download the new ones and overwrite the old files. Sims will retain their body shape (with the exception of very small tuning changes).



FAQ:
Problem: My game crashes after installing this mod!
Answer: Make sure your slider hack and and your game version are compatible and you don't have old hacks installed. The sliders themselves should not be able crash the game.

Problem: My lip/jaw (or whatever) slider stopped working!
Answer: You are exceeding the slider limit of 20 sliders per section. Please install some mod to remove/increase the slider limit. Or uninstall sliders to stay under the limit.

Problem: It doesn't work!
Answer: Please follow the default package installation instructions.

Problem: It still doesn't work!
Answer: They work. Either you put the packages to the wrong location, or your framework is not properly installed. Maybe try Delphy's Framework tool. Maybe try installing another mod so you can be sure if it's my sliders or a general framework problem.

Problem: I can't find them! / Where do they appear ingame?
Answer: Don't look where the fatness slider is. They are actually facial sliders so they are in Head->General and Mouth->General. See the rightmost screenshot. Try to scroll down.

Problem: I'm too stupid/young/foreign/lazy to understand the install instructions! I still have issues!
Answer: I'm sorry, but I won't explain everything again and I can't tell you more as I already wrote here. If you have a specific question or problem you can ask me, but I won't reply to posts like "I can't get it to work!" or "I don't understand the instructions!". I got several messages from people who had problems, and I just told them to read and follow the descriptions again and then it worked for most of them. So just read and try it again (and then maybe again) and if it still doesn't work and you have some usable problem description, you can pm me or leave a comment. Please note that this download has a lot of comments and I can't reply to all. If you think you have an important topic (and not some random "I can't get it to work"-post where you tried it only one time) and I forgot you, please write a pm which I tend to check more often. But trying to add a comment first is probably a good idea, because other people might be able to help you, too.

Question: Can you make a arm/bodybuilder/eye/height/belly/whatever slider?
Answer: Sorry, I don't have plans to create additional sliders at the moment. There are already a lot of sliders from different people.

Question: Does it work together with Awesomemod or another core mod?
Answer: Yes. If the core mod itself removes the slider limit (as Awesomemod does), everything is fine, else you have to make sure you don't install too many sliders.

Question: Where can I find other sliders?
Answer:(List is incomplete, just google)

Question: Can I use them together?
Answer: Of course. Just make sure, to either stay under the 20 slider limit or otherwise install a core mod that removes the limit (recommended).

Compatibility:
The sliders work with all currently known game versions (tested up to version 1.29) and should work with all future versions, unless EA does big changes to the slider system. In game versions after 1.24 there may be minor deformation issues as explained at the top of the page. They work on PC and Mac. Some people have reported that they work even with The Sims Medieval, but I don't have this game so I can not give you install instructions or support for this.

The possibility of a conflict with other mods is nearly nonexistent as a conflicting mod would need to use the same instance IDs. Therefore a conflict can only happen, if someone wants to produce a conflict, or if someone does a really bad job at cloning my sliders and publishes his/her sliders with the same IDs.

Additional Credits:
I want to thank Delphy for his Small Editors and everyone else, wo did research and wrote tools, that helped me creating this (s3pi, s3pe, MilkShape exporters/importers, Blender, Wolfram Alpha, Gimp, and many more).

Thanks to everyone, who tested this and sent me feedback or translations.

Tags: #breast, #size, #waist, #hip, #butt, #buttock, #slider, #head, #cas, #body

Type:

You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 3
Key: - File was updated after upload was posted
Filename - Tip: You can click the magnifying glass to see the archive contents Size Downloads Date
Jonha_Sliders.zip | Description: --> Install this if you want the sliders. It should work with every game version. Please install the BASE package inside this zip, too. 10.2 KB 997,676 24th Nov 2009
Don't forget to Thank the creator after downloading! Use the Thanks button located above the screenshots above.
Basic Download and Install Instructions:

See: Game Help:TS3 CC Basicswiki for a full guide!
 
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Scholar
Original Poster
#576 Old 15th Feb 2010 at 8:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xxgaylexx
after i've ran them through WinRAR , and i double click them to install them


Don't doubleclick them. Copy them into the correct folder. And make sure you got the file permissions right. I don't want to help you here with this general package installation issue. Please post into the help forum after you read the instructions again.
Test Subject
#577 Old 15th Feb 2010 at 9:02 PM
I installed this mod and now my sims cant load. I start the game i watch the animation and sims automaticly closes. I have WA installed but i cannot update it. Is there a way to fix it ? or at least to uninstall this mod.
If anyone can help me please pm. THANK YOU
Scholar
Original Poster
#578 Old 15th Feb 2010 at 9:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taleris
I installed this mod and now my sims cant load. I start the game i watch the animation and sims automaticly closes.


Read the faq.

Quote:
I have WA installed but i cannot update it. Is there a way to fix it ? or at least to uninstall this mod.


Sure. Just delete the SliderHack package file you installed previously.
Test Subject
#579 Old 15th Feb 2010 at 11:38 PM
Actually I had this problem too. I am not a novice at this and for some reason both awesome mod and your hack arent working with the new patch. None of the rest of my mods are having this issue and it starts fine without. I would assume its working fine on your system but don't have the foggiest why it wouldnt be on mine.

Cheers
Scholar
Original Poster
#580 Old 16th Feb 2010 at 12:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabriel020780
both awesome mod and your hack arent working with the new patch


Both mods are core mods and have to be updated or removed when you update the game.
Test Subject
#581 Old 16th Feb 2010 at 2:21 AM
Awesome Mod was updated to 3.1 and it seems to work fine, but your mod is not working. Should my file be in HEL or WA? Did I miss where to place the files after each expansion or stuff pack? I didn't see answers to that. Thanks for your hard work and help. BTW, my framework is ok too.
Test Subject
#582 Old 16th Feb 2010 at 8:21 AM
This Slider is FANTASTIC! now my sims are more like humans. head part is so good, and calf width is perfectly fit for men sims. and other part is more than I expected! But ... some error are finds. slide bar any move of part "Jaw". the cathegory that include the shape of jaw. I don't know what is the problem. I use version 2.2.8 . except for that everythings are so nice
Scholar
Original Poster
#583 Old 16th Feb 2010 at 9:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by suzymarie
Awesome Mod was updated to 3.1 and it seems to work fine, but your mod is not working. Should my file be in HEL or WA? Did I miss where to place the files after each expansion or stuff pack?


If awesomemod works fine, put it in the place where awesomemod is/was installed.

Generally I think one should install mods in the latest SP/EP installed, so if you have HELS, put in the the HELS folder. But it may work otherwise, too, and as already said, you can just put it to the location where other mods work, too.

And as already said, don't use the sldierhack together with awesomemod, they will conflict and you don't need the hack then as it is integrated in awesomemod.
Lab Assistant
#584 Old 16th Feb 2010 at 4:42 PM Last edited by yeabil : 16th Feb 2010 at 9:38 PM.
Quote:
Originally Posted by suzymarie
Awesome Mod was updated to 3.1 and it seems to work fine, but your mod is not working. Should my file be in HEL or WA? Did I miss where to place the files after each expansion or stuff pack? I didn't see answers to that. Thanks for your hard work and help. BTW, my framework is ok too.


I hadn't used this mod for a while and saw that he had devleoped a core mod. I thought I just needed to download the core mod. Couldn't figure out for the life of me why it wasn't working. Then went back and notice I also had to install the base one!

BTW thanks jonha for making the core mod to extend the slider amount!
Test Subject
#585 Old 16th Feb 2010 at 5:02 PM
Is this not compatible with sims 2 then?
Test Subject
#586 Old 16th Feb 2010 at 5:21 PM
This doesn't work for the new HELS 3.1 patch. I downloaded the base package and The required HELS hacker. The game crashes, until you remove it out of mods.
Scholar
Original Poster
#587 Old 16th Feb 2010 at 6:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yomaniy
Is this not compatible with sims 2 then?


OMG, No, this is for Sims 3.

Quote:
Originally Posted by gijoeboy21
This doesn't work for the new HELS 3.1 patch. I downloaded the base package and The required HELS hacker. The game crashes, until you remove it out of mods.


Did you downloaded the right hack? There is one for HELS 3.0 and one for HELS 3.1
Test Subject
#588 Old 16th Feb 2010 at 7:20 PM
Hello,

very good work!!!
Your sliders can make the Sims look much beautyfuller, then the normal ones.

I have TS3 1.10, WA 2.5 and HELS 3.1.7.
The Jonha_Sliders work fine for me but if I try the Jonha_SliderHack_1.10.6-2.5.12-3.1.7, I can't find the sliders in the CAS.

Do I make a mistake?
What are the difference between the Jonha_Sliders and the Jonha_SliderHack?

bye from Germany
Hotte
Test Subject
#589 Old 16th Feb 2010 at 7:46 PM
yes, I downloaded them both at different times. I still had to delete them. I even downloaded the old hacks, still no luck. :/
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#590 Old 16th Feb 2010 at 9:30 PM
I figured out what I did wrong! It's works perfectly now. Is there any way you can make the breasts as big as the old hack? I know now you can't make them as big...
Scholar
Original Poster
#591 Old 16th Feb 2010 at 9:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hotte
Do I make a mistake?
What are the difference between the Jonha_Sliders and the Jonha_SliderHack?


The SliderHack only allows to to install more sliders (removes the limit of 20 sliders per section). If you actually want my sliders, you have to install Jonha_Sliders.

So install

both) if you don't use Awesomemod or another core mod and want my sliders

Jonha_Sliders) if you use another core mod and want to have my sliders

Jonha_SliderHack) If you don't want my sliders but require a hack to install more sliders.

Quote:
Originally Posted by gijoeboy21
I figured out what I did wrong! It's works perfectly now. Is there any way you can make the breasts as big as the old hack? I know now you can't make them as big...


Use a hack as mentioned on the overview page or wait until I improve the slider. Or create your own slider.
Test Subject
#592 Old 17th Feb 2010 at 9:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonha
The SliderHack only allows to to install more sliders (removes the limit of 20 sliders per section). If you actually want my sliders, you have to install Jonha_Sliders.

So install

both) if you don't use Awesomemod or another core mod and want my sliders

Jonha_Sliders) if you use another core mod and want to have my sliders

Jonha_SliderHack) If you don't want my sliders but require a hack to install more sliders.


Ahh... oki.
Thanks for help.

bye
Hotte
Test Subject
#593 Old 17th Feb 2010 at 7:34 PM Last edited by Noboka : 17th Feb 2010 at 9:05 PM.
Hi, just letting you know that your mod caused a BSOD for me on Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit. Sims 3 works fine without your mod, but with it...it causes a huge crash.

Edit: Nevermind, I got it to work.
Test Subject
#594 Old 17th Feb 2010 at 10:55 PM
hi, i have a problem...i have put the downloaded package files in packages folder (after extracted them,,of course), but nothing happens..why?..when i start my sims3 game...i go to creating a sim, but everything is the same as before..i dont see any new slider or anything....what did i missed?? and just to let you know: the only file i didnt keep is the slider hack to have more sliders, because it causes crash for my sims.
(i already have install the resource.cfg file and others.. thanks! -peace
Lab Assistant
#595 Old 17th Feb 2010 at 10:59 PM
Hey, I just noticed that you're from Aachen. :D
I'm from Hamm. XD Thats just about 2 hours away. XD

But anyway. :P
I have a request (idea?) for an additional slider. Well, sort of. XD
I just noticed, that the foreheads get pretty high (big?), when you decrease the range of the head width... :/
But since you can't lower the whole scalp, because of the hair meshes, maybe you could just... dunno, put the ears higher? XDD
A slider for the ears, that would be great. To lower or raise them.
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#596 Old 18th Feb 2010 at 4:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by puss2puss
hi, i have a problem...i have put the downloaded package files in packages folder (after extracted them,,of course), but nothing happens..why?..when i start my sims3 game...i go to creating a sim, but everything is the same as before..i dont see any new slider or anything...


Did you look into the right place? Look at the rightmost screenshot.


Quote:
But anyway. :P
I have a request (idea?) for an additional slider. Well, sort of. XD
I just noticed, that the foreheads get pretty high (big?), when you decrease the range of the head width... :/
But since you can't lower the whole scalp, because of the hair meshes, maybe you could just... dunno, put the ears higher? XDD
A slider for the ears, that would be great. To lower or raise them.


Cool idea. It might be actually possible to lower the scalp. But I will just try both.
Lab Assistant
#597 Old 18th Feb 2010 at 6:38 PM
Quote:
Cool idea. It might be actually possible to lower the scalp. But I will just try both.


Really? Man, that would be awesome.
I can't wait to see and try out the result.
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