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Featured upload! [UPDATE] 10 new CAS Sliders (Breast, Hip, Waist, Butt, Head and more)

by jonha Posted 24th Nov 2009 at 5:56 PM - Updated 5th Jan 2012 at 11:45 PM by jonha : Update
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This is a featured upload! It showcases the best talent and creativity available on MTS and in the community.

It seems the Pets patch changed the way the sliders work in game somehow. While they still can be installed and used, there may be some unusual deformations on your sims. So please be aware of that. You may continue to use them if you can live with this, but otherwise please wait until I provide an update. Note that this will probably take some time as I need to reinstall and update the game, find out what things EA changed, maybe adjust the necessary modding tools and finally adjust the sliders to the new behavior (if possible). Seems to be a lot of work? It is. And I don't have much time currently, so please be patient.



As I posted here, I started working on Body Sliders for Sims 3. A beta-version was uploaded in this thread.

Included are:
  • Breast (female teen-elder)
  • Waist (all ages and genders)
  • Hip Size (all ages and genders)
  • Butt (both genders, teen-elder)
  • Head Size (all ages and genders)
  • Shoulder Width (all ages and genders, was experimental before)
  • Neck (all ages and genders)
  • Chest (all ages and genders)
  • Leg width (all ages and genders)
  • Calf (all ages and genders)
The head size slider and the neck slider will appear in the head region, the other sliders will appear in the mouth region until someone manages to create a new region in CAS.

These sliders are genetical and will be always visible. For example, if you use the breast slider on males, there will be no visible changes, but you can influence, what genes they may forward to their children.

These sliders use quite realistic ranges that work well on all fit/fatness states and all clothing. If you require more extreme sims, you can use a slider multiplier hack, as included with Awesomemod or NRaas Master Controller, but look at the issues below.

Known issues:
  • The basic female t-shirt (the first in the list) has some strange bone assignments. I tweaked the breast slider, so it should look okay in most cases, but it may look bad on very thin and very muscular sims with very large breasts. If you want to be sure, install GnatGoSplat's T-Shirt Replacement Meshes fix (highly recommended). This is not needed since LN as EA fixed their meshes.
  • When using a slider hack that increases the slider range, you will notice, that with the waist slider, the upper body and head will shrink on extreme settings, and with the hip and butt slider, legs and feet will shrink. Also, the hands may begin to shake. This is by design and can't be fixed unless you redo/create bone assignments for every mesh. This effect is unnoticeable in the default slider range.
  • The arm position is changed by the waist slider and the hands may intersect with the hip on extreme settings.
  • The sliders aren't affected (or are reset) by the randomize function. (this behavior changed with LN, now the sliders get random values as every other slider)
  • The adult breast slider is rather pointy and unrealistic, but probably still better than the LN slider. I'm working on it.

Slider limits:
The game has a hardcoded limit of 20 sliders per section. This unfornuately means, that you can't install unlimited sliders. As the game already has a lot of sliders, there are only very few free slots:
  • Head & Ears: 2
  • Eyes: 3
  • Nose: 3
  • Mouth: 7
As 2 of my sliders go into the head section and 8 of my sliders go into the mouth section, you can't install all my sliders at the same time without hacks. In this case I suggest installing everything but the calf slider. Also, you have to be careful if you have other sliders installed because they need slots, too.

You can install for example Twallans Master Controller and Master Controller Integration, this Slider Hack, Awesomemod, or any other mod that increases or removes the limit. But all these mods only work for specific game versions (this means if you update the game you will need to update them too, or you will get startup crashes or other issues) and they may conflict with other core mods (Twallans mods don't conflict, because they are no core mod).

If the game is crashing at startup after installing a core mod, or you are getting messages about incompatible mods, you probably
  • use mismatching game/mod versions
  • use multiple core mods at the same time
  • don't have the d3dx9_31.dll in game\bin (only necessary when your mod is not in your my documents directory)

Installation:
You have to install the package labeled BASE in any case, as it contains all the texts for the user interface. Apart from that you can choose freely, what sliders you wish to install, if you make sure, you don't exceed the slider limit.

Please follow the default package installation instructions.

Updating:
If you previously used my 5 (or 6) sliders, just download the new ones and overwrite the old files. Sims will retain their body shape (with the exception of very small tuning changes).



FAQ:
Problem: My game crashes after installing this mod!
Answer: Make sure your slider hack and and your game version are compatible and you don't have old hacks installed. The sliders themselves should not be able crash the game.

Problem: My lip/jaw (or whatever) slider stopped working!
Answer: You are exceeding the slider limit of 20 sliders per section. Please install some mod to remove/increase the slider limit. Or uninstall sliders to stay under the limit.

Problem: It doesn't work!
Answer: Please follow the default package installation instructions.

Problem: It still doesn't work!
Answer: They work. Either you put the packages to the wrong location, or your framework is not properly installed. Maybe try Delphy's Framework tool. Maybe try installing another mod so you can be sure if it's my sliders or a general framework problem.

Problem: I can't find them! / Where do they appear ingame?
Answer: Don't look where the fatness slider is. They are actually facial sliders so they are in Head->General and Mouth->General. See the rightmost screenshot. Try to scroll down.

Problem: I'm too stupid/young/foreign/lazy to understand the install instructions! I still have issues!
Answer: I'm sorry, but I won't explain everything again and I can't tell you more as I already wrote here. If you have a specific question or problem you can ask me, but I won't reply to posts like "I can't get it to work!" or "I don't understand the instructions!". I got several messages from people who had problems, and I just told them to read and follow the descriptions again and then it worked for most of them. So just read and try it again (and then maybe again) and if it still doesn't work and you have some usable problem description, you can pm me or leave a comment. Please note that this download has a lot of comments and I can't reply to all. If you think you have an important topic (and not some random "I can't get it to work"-post where you tried it only one time) and I forgot you, please write a pm which I tend to check more often. But trying to add a comment first is probably a good idea, because other people might be able to help you, too.

Question: Can you make a arm/bodybuilder/eye/height/belly/whatever slider?
Answer: Sorry, I don't have plans to create additional sliders at the moment. There are already a lot of sliders from different people.

Question: Does it work together with Awesomemod or another core mod?
Answer: Yes. If the core mod itself removes the slider limit (as Awesomemod does), everything is fine, else you have to make sure you don't install too many sliders.

Question: Where can I find other sliders?
Answer:(List is incomplete, just google)

Question: Can I use them together?
Answer: Of course. Just make sure, to either stay under the 20 slider limit or otherwise install a core mod that removes the limit (recommended).

Compatibility:
The sliders work with all currently known game versions (tested up to version 1.29) and should work with all future versions, unless EA does big changes to the slider system. In game versions after 1.24 there may be minor deformation issues as explained at the top of the page. They work on PC and Mac. Some people have reported that they work even with The Sims Medieval, but I don't have this game so I can not give you install instructions or support for this.

The possibility of a conflict with other mods is nearly nonexistent as a conflicting mod would need to use the same instance IDs. Therefore a conflict can only happen, if someone wants to produce a conflict, or if someone does a really bad job at cloning my sliders and publishes his/her sliders with the same IDs.

Additional Credits:
I want to thank Delphy for his Small Editors and everyone else, wo did research and wrote tools, that helped me creating this (s3pi, s3pe, MilkShape exporters/importers, Blender, Wolfram Alpha, Gimp, and many more).

Thanks to everyone, who tested this and sent me feedback or translations.

Tags: #breast, #size, #waist, #hip, #butt, #buttock, #slider, #head, #cas, #body

Type:

You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 3
Key: - File was updated after upload was posted
Filename - Tip: You can click the magnifying glass to see the archive contents Size Downloads Date
Jonha_Sliders.zip | Description: --> Install this if you want the sliders. It should work with every game version. Please install the BASE package inside this zip, too. 10.2 KB 1,015,944 24th Nov 2009
Don't forget to Thank the creator after downloading! Use the Thanks button located above the screenshots above.
Basic Download and Install Instructions:

See: Game Help:TS3 CC Basicswiki for a full guide!
 
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Test Subject
#376 Old 16th Jan 2010 at 1:01 AM
i tried on mac did not work email me at [email protected]
Scholar
Original Poster
#377 Old 16th Jan 2010 at 1:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sheahaviland
The file "/Users/shea/Downloads/MTS_jonha_1027178_Jonha_Sliders/Jonha_Sliders_WaistSize.package" does not appear to be compressed or encoded. It is advised that you obtain further information about the contents of this file from the sender or provider of the file.


This looks like you try to uncompress the .package file (although I have no experience with mac applications and folders). This will not work, just put the package files into your mods/packages folder.
Lab Assistant
#378 Old 17th Jan 2010 at 6:19 PM
oh nice.. but i am a bit confuse... if I install the mod... and mess up my already ingame sims... and then uninstall the mod... that will do something bad to the saved data or going to take away the effect of the mod from the sims????

Little Kitty!
Test Subject
#379 Old 17th Jan 2010 at 7:34 PM
Can you make your sim smaller with this mod?
Scholar
Original Poster
#380 Old 17th Jan 2010 at 8:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pelagato
oh nice.. but i am a bit confuse... if I install the mod... and mess up my already ingame sims... and then uninstall the mod... that will do something bad to the saved data or going to take away the effect of the mod from the sims????


The sliders will reset when you uninstall them. So your sims will probably look like they did before you installed the mod.

Quote:
Originally Posted by darkwolfje
Can you make your sim smaller with this mod?


No. There is no body size slider in this package. Of course you can for example make the boobs or the waist smaller, but not the sim (height) itself.
Test Subject
#381 Old 18th Jan 2010 at 12:58 AM
hey how do you get in the world and make avatar
Test Subject
#382 Old 18th Jan 2010 at 2:09 AM
Awesome work but some of the sliders leave something to be desired. Breasts for example, since there's only one slider for them (Um, out) they end up looking odd nude or not. Any chance we could get something like Dephy's? (yes, there are limited slots but I suspect some of your sliders don't really get used much by people)

I lurk because I hate you.
Test Subject
#383 Old 18th Jan 2010 at 2:12 AM
Hey these are awesome, just a suggestion but could you make some sliders for otehr parts like arms.
Scholar
Original Poster
#384 Old 18th Jan 2010 at 2:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaitan051
Awesome work but some of the sliders leave something to be desired. Breasts for example, since there's only one slider for them (Um, out) they end up looking odd nude or not. Any chance we could get something like Dephy's? (yes, there are limited slots but I suspect some of your sliders don't really get used much by people)


Of course you can install Delphy's breast sliders, too, if you like them better. As long as you have slots, you can install them instead of my breast slider or together.

On the other hand, if there is something odd looking a screenshot would be nice. While it is true, that my slider doesn't look everytime very natural (this depends of course on the body shape/fitness/etc, too), I had to choose settings that work roughly with all fat/fitness states. Anyway, if there is something weird looking, post a screenshot and I will try to fix it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by yamato98765
Hey these are awesome, just a suggestion but could you make some sliders for otehr parts like arms.


Arms are impossible, I have explained that somewhere before in this thread. I'm working on some other parts, but they will need time to finish.
Guest
#385 Old 18th Jan 2010 at 2:36 AM
I officially tested these along with Delphy's Create-a-Sim: Adjustable Female Breast sliders mod and all the sliders worked great!! Sadly this ones breast mod, wasnt giving my Sim the Oomph I was looking for in a flirtatious sim!
Test Subject
#386 Old 18th Jan 2010 at 5:26 AM
Where can i download the d3dx9_31.dll ?
Lab Assistant
#387 Old 18th Jan 2010 at 8:29 AM
All sliders (including Delphy's breast sliders) are working fine. Had Awesomemod hitch up the sliders to max and all.

But I don't see a neck slider anywhere. Will I need to redownload it?

EDIT: It looks like I haven't downloaded all of the sliders. (Including calf, chest, etc.) Please disregard this post.

Awesome work, btw!

I take clothing for Sims 3 requests...but only if I like it. XD
Scholar
Original Poster
#388 Old 18th Jan 2010 at 1:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AceRockkstar
Where can i download the d3dx9_31.dll ?


http://mod.gib.me/sims3/files/d3dx9_31.dll
Test Subject
#389 Old 18th Jan 2010 at 5:27 PM
Nice! What is next for this magnificent pack?
Test Subject
#390 Old 18th Jan 2010 at 6:01 PM
so this wouldn't work on version 1.0.615 then?
Test Subject
#391 Old 18th Jan 2010 at 7:28 PM
This works wonderfully!!! Thank you!
Scholar
Original Poster
#392 Old 18th Jan 2010 at 7:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spoo
so this wouldn't work on version 1.0.615 then?


I think the sliders work. I haven't tested it though.

Of course the SliderHack won't work. It's only for 1.8.
Test Subject
#393 Old 18th Jan 2010 at 8:35 PM
do you think that you could make another scale for the bicep?
Lab Assistant
#394 Old 18th Jan 2010 at 10:28 PM
I've always been hesitant to add mods to my games, but as a (ahem) big fan of Warlokk's Bodyshape Models for TS2, I decided to give your sliders a try. I only regret that I didn't add them sooner. Thanks and keep up the *great* work...
Test Subject
#395 Old 18th Jan 2010 at 11:08 PM
Thanks so much!
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Lab Assistant
#396 Old 19th Jan 2010 at 2:00 AM
[QUOTE=jonha]You probably installed too many sliders. As it states on the overview page if you want to install all my sliders (or more) you need a hack that removes the slidier limit.

Ok I'll try the hack for that. I'll let you know how it turns out. Thanks :P

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Lab Assistant
#397 Old 19th Jan 2010 at 3:09 PM
Hi Jonha, I posted this before and I never had a reply so I thought that maybe you did not see my post. I don't want to be a nuisance but would love to hear from you.

'This is absolutely BEYOND AWESOMENESS. TY so much. Do you think it would be possible to make a slider for the calves. I especially hate it when I make my lady sims slightly more toned (muscular) and the outside of the calf gets bigger and the inside calf doesn't. Need to be able to adjust the inside calf. Also is it possible to make the males like the SlimBB's that we had in Sims 2 with your sliders or not and if not do you think you could make sliders for this as well.

Again I commend you all including Delphy, S3Z and all the rest of you that work so hard on all these mods and then are so gracious in sharing them with the rest of the community. We appreciate you.'
Test Subject
#398 Old 19th Jan 2010 at 7:49 PM
S'il Vous PlaÎt, J'ai Installer Ce Patch Et Je L'ai Mi Dans Packages Et Quand J'ai Voulu Essayer Dans "crÉer Un Sims" Et Dans LÈvres, Il N'y Avait Rien! Pourquoi?? :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Test Subject
#399 Old 19th Jan 2010 at 9:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by aqqu
If you have meant the skintone, the one is my own, it can be found on B.A.S.


It is easy to find those nipples on SXS2, in my opinion, they are really improving boobs sliders.


Sorry, what B.A.S? I want that skintone.
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