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Romantic Reputation Recombobulator - V2.1.1 (updated 3 March 13)

by severedsolo Posted 18th Jun 2011 at 3:48 PM - Updated 10th Mar 2013 at 5:38 PM by severedsolo : Version 2.1 released
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Anyone who has played Generations has probably ran into the Romantic Reputation system by now. That girl your Sim danced with at Prom, way before he met his current partner, remember her? Well your current partner is going to accuse you of cheating on her, and then tank your relationship by -90.

Obviously the system is broken, so here is an early attempt to correct the problem.

Changelog -
  • 03/03/2013 - FINALLY updated to make this mod fully seasons compatible.
  • 3/7/2011 - V2.1 released. Turns out that Married Sim's still get accused by their "other Sim" on a regular basis, so I have fixed that. Also eased up a little, as V2 was a bit too "free and easy" on cheating, and Sim's were getting away with murder (figuratively) when not married. Hopefully this new version will strike a nice balance. See notes below for changes.
  • 21/6/2011 - This Mod is now incompatible with EGC's Jealousy settings when set to "Level 0" (no jealousy at all) as this performs the same function as "KillAll" Level 1, (TS2 style jealousy) seems to be compatible with RRRv2. (haven't checked the others)
  • 19/6/2011 RRR V2 released. While the first version merely reduces the problem, or completely kills it, V2 is my first attempt to actually fix the system. Personally, I like the idea of a Romantic Rep system, I just disagree with the implementation. V2 is now declared stable, as I have had no negative feedback on it. All feedback is appreciated.

Notes: (For an indepth analysis of how the game "scores" cheating, see here: http://www.modthesims.info/showpost...85&postcount=70 )
V2.1 (only changes from V2 are listed)
  • Chances of being accused for Level 2 and Level 3 has now been changed to 20% across the board. Level 1 romances are still at 0. Should stop married Sims from getting RepRaped as soon as they go to visit the Sim they are cheating on their spouses with, as well as making it a little more difficult to keep extra-marital romances a secret from the spouse. (Only when actually cheating though, romances that are not being pursued are unaffected) (defaults: Level 2 15% (v2 10%) Level 3 40%).
  • Visibility radius reset to default. Nobody was seeing cheating, so you were pretty much getting away scot free.
  • Threshold for Level 2 reset to default. Pretty much same reason as above, I set it too high, Level 2 was never triggering, and so you were getting away scot free all the time.
  • All other functions not changed (including faster visibility decay time).
V2
  • In order to be accused of cheating, the "other romance" must now be Level 2, hopefully solving the "old flame that you never cancelled" problem.
  • The threshold for obtaining a "Level 2" romance has been doubled, meaning that hopefully the system won't kick in for silly things.
  • The "visibility radius" has been halved, meaning that not every Sim and his wife will notice your "naughtiness"
  • Invitations to each others house, and placing phone calls to your "other Sim" will now have a negligible effect on the visibility
  • The visibility of the relationship will now begin to decay after just 1 hour of no contact, rather than 24.
  • The decay rate is now 8x the default, meaning that after 24 hours of no contact, chances are the relationship will no longer be Level 2.
  • The following traits in your Sims partner increase the chance of being accused by 5% (default 10%): FamilyOriented,Good, Childish,CommitmentIssues,HotHeaded,Neurotic
  • Conversely these traits decrease the chance of being accused by 5%: Inappropriate,Flirty,Coward,HopelessRomantic,Carefree,Shy
  • As long as your relationship with your current partner is at least good enough to be "Friends" if you weren't in a relationship, the chances of being accused are halved. (Default "Best Friends" -10% chance) as well as reducing the "Betrayed" Buff's timeout by 6 hours.
  • Sims no longer have a 300% multiplier applied to the chance of telling your partner about cheating.
  • If your Sim is "Eternally Faithful" the chance of being accused is 10% regardless of level (default 15).
  • If caught cheating, your relationship only decreases by 25 not 90.
  • To stop the breakup, you must repair the relationship by 10 (default 25)
  • [new] Above Reproach is actually useful now. It completely eliminates the chance of being accused. (Default -20% chance)



What This Mod Does
It depends which flavour you install. The most basic function of the "50, 25, 10" packages is to reduce the "tanking" effect from -90 to -50, -25, or -10 depending on which flavour you install. The other flavour (KillAll) completely kills the system, so that your Sim will never be accused of cheating. V2 attempts to fix the system, so that it works as intended.

What This Mod Doesn't Do
It won't actually disable the system if you install "KillAll" your Rep will change, you just won't get any negative effects from it. Postive effects have been retained. Also if installing one of the reducer packages, then it won't effect the chances of being accused of cheating, it just won't destroy the relationship when it happens. (For a more elegant system, try V2)

Compatibility
This is a Tuning Mod, so it shouldn't matter what EP's or SP's you do or don't have. Obviously you will need patch 1.22 to use this Mod. Partially compatible with EGC (see changelog), Definitely compatible with Non-Core Modded games, and probably compatible with Awesome but I haven't checked. This Mod edits the "RomanticVisibility" XML, but as the entire thing is given over to Romantic Rep the chances of conflict are pretty much 0.

Only install ONE of these mods. They all edit the same resource and will conflict with each other

Enjoy

Additional Credits:
Peter and Inge for S3PE MTS for Hosting.
Kai Swift and Blair Wainwright for the sappy screenshot

You must have the expansion, game version or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 3
Built with Game Version: 1.22
Key: - File was updated after upload was posted
Filename - Tip: You can click the magnifying glass to see the archive contents Size Downloads Date
Romantic Rep Recombobulator 10.zip 5.3 KB 3,102 18th Jun 2011
Romantic Rep Recombobulator 25.zip 5.3 KB 2,308 18th Jun 2011
Romantic Rep Recombobulator 50.zip 5.3 KB 2,502 18th Jun 2011
Romantic Rep Recombobulator KillAll.zip 5.2 KB 9,023 18th Jun 2011
RRRv2.1.1.zip | Description: The same as 2.1 but Seasons/University compatible. 5.3 KB 4,999 3rd Mar 2013
Don't forget to Thank the creator after downloading! Use the Thanks button located above the screenshots above.
Basic Download and Install Instructions:

See: Game Help:TS3 CC Basicswiki for a full guide!
 
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#2 Old 18th Jun 2011 at 4:48 PM
I had exactly the same situation last night. My Sim went to Prom alone, danced with a girl, she became a romantic interest. She was only 1 day away from aging up, so I never pursued it, but because she didn't pair up with anyone else, they were still romantic interests.

My Sim goes round his girlfriends house to propose, she storms in, accuses him of cheating, and it tanks the relationship.

a) -90 is way too high anyway
b) They danced once? seriously that's cheating?

Hence why I made this mod

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#3 Old 18th Jun 2011 at 7:28 PM
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Oh, no, no, no. They aren't even *dating* and it's considered cheating. A "romantic interest" does not a relationship make. EA has *never* gotten the nuances of romantic involvement right. Why even have a "go steady" option if every romantic interest is treated like an actual exclusive relationship? And apparently, they don't know the difference between romantic and sexual. i.e., Romance Sims wanting to do everyone in town. Then again, there's a lot of traits that aren't accurately named according to the description either.


Well actually the problem is easily solved. If you are a Romantic Interest with a Non-Active and they get a relationship, then the RI status reverts to friendship. Unfortunately they don't apply the same logic to Active Sims. Two or more Romantic Interests on the go, I can see that one, but once you go steady with someone then the RI should revert back to friendship. It's not difficult....

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#4 Old 19th Jun 2011 at 1:16 AM
Just a little tip. If you do get hit by the "betrayed" moodlet. Improve the relationship by 25 points (a quarter of one side of the bar) to stop the breakup.

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#5 Old 19th Jun 2011 at 3:47 AM
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Originally Posted by SimsLover50
You are my hero. Do I need to install a kill all and one of the other mods or will kill all do? You are awesome! Thanks Severedsolo!


If your planning to kill all then only use KillAll. The different flavours will conflict, as they all edit the same resource. KillAll has it's own "anti-tank" tuning that doesn't reduce the relationship at all anyway. USE ONLY ONE!

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#6 Old 19th Jun 2011 at 5:48 PM
V2 has been released. Hopefully it will actually fix the system, rather than merely treating the symptomns. Please give any feedback, both what works and what doesn't

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Instructor
#7 Old 19th Jun 2011 at 6:45 PM
What does it mean with the romantic level 2?
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#8 Old 19th Jun 2011 at 6:51 PM Last edited by severedsolo : 19th Jun 2011 at 11:56 PM.
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Originally Posted by Celebriton
What does it mean with the romantic level 2?


The game assigns the "visibility" of cheating on a level based system. Being observed cheating, inviting your "other Sim" to your house, visiting their house, or making and receiving phone calls from them accrue points. Once enough points have been accrued then the romance goes to "Level 2" which basically increases the chance of getting accused. Keep actively cheating and you get to level 3, which increases the chance again.

The problem is, having a romantic interest, even one which you have never pursued, or haven't pursued for a long time, is a Level 1 romance. By default, you could be accused of cheating at Level 1. What I have done (among other things), is disabled the chances of being accused at Level 1, and raised the threshold to reach Level 2.

The in game effect should be that you won't be accused unless you are actually actively cheating on your Sim's partner, rather than just having an old Romantic Interest that you forgot to ask to "Just be Friends"

I posted a more in depth analysis of how it works by default here: http://www.modthesims.info/showpost...85&postcount=70

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Lab Assistant
#9 Old 20th Jun 2011 at 1:13 AM
Slightly confused..do I download V2 by itself or am I supposed to DL V2 and a flavor?
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