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2x Weight and Fitness Integration core-mod by Consort

by Consort Posted 3rd Mar 2012 at 5:59 PM - Updated 17th Apr 2016 at 1:18 AM by Consort
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** Still in testing phase, but the mod seems to work well **

What this mod does NOT do:

This is not a Slider Mod!
This mod does not allow you to create custom muscular/fat/skinny Sims in the "Create a Sim" phase of the game.

In order to do that download This file and install "cmar_SkinTonePanel_BodySliders.package"
Full link XCAS core mod: more tattoo locations, edit naked outfit, slider hack, body hair, and more
That part of Cmar's mod is compatible to 1.29, 1.31 and earlier versions.

Another way is the Nraas Master Controller
Explaining how this swiss knife of mods can be used is nicely explained on the NRaas site, for a quick start do this:
While actually playing the game:
Set up 2x Body slider by clicking on your sim, then Nraas/Master Controller/Settings/CAS/Slider Multiple: Body and set it to 2
You can click on any Sim, then click Nraas/Master Controller/Advanced/Edit in CAS to modify the Sim.


What this mod does:

The purpose of this mod is to stop the game from acting up when having fit/fat/skinny Sims that are created by the use of other mods, but it also works on its own.
With this mod installed, Sims can get fatter by overeating, build more muscle mass by working out. It also avoids "snapping" back to standard values for Sims created with other mods such as slider hacks (this also applies to super skinny Sims).
A Sim's weight and fitness (fitness refers to muscle mass, not muscle definition) are usually limited to -1 to +1 by the game, this mod extends the values to -2 and +2 (see attached image). It does not add or remove code, it just adjusts those values.



How the Game is affected:
Sims who do strength workout can get twice as muscular over time
Sims who keep overeating can get twice as fat over time
Obese Sims (weight >1) used to "snap" back to the game maximum of 1 when doing cardio workout, swimming or jogging. This is fixed and they lose weight gradually
Overfit Sims (fitness >1) used to snap back to a fitness value of 1 when doing strength workout. They will now gain even more muscle mass when working out.
It does not seem possible to do cardio until your Sim looks anorexic. Game logic defines that Sims lighter than -0.5 actually gain weight using the treadmill. This is no side effect of the mod but actually happens in the unmodded game as well. Snapping to -1 for superkinny Sims is avoided by this mod however. (big thanks to the brave testers in the forum thread! )


Want to meet 2x Sims in your game?

Just download this household. They are the 6 sims you see in the teaser picture. You can test play them or just drop them in your neighbourhood.

There is no mod required. Install by unzipping and double clicking.




-1 +1 -2 2... what are you talking about??
You know those sliders when you create a Sim? That.
In the standard game they go from left to right, or in other words -1 to +1 in floating point values.

Lower and higher values (like -1.331 or +1.7 for example) are possible and work relatively fine in the game. This mod choses to set the new limits at -2 and +2. That's what we're talking about This mod is NOT a slider hack (they are available elsewhere), this is just for illustration.


A quick word on how Sims 3 deals with Fitness and Weight.

When a Sim is born or created, it gets a genetic value for both weight (how fat it is) and fitness (how big the muscles are). Those are the values you control by the sliders in the basic section when creating a new Sim in the game. These values define the Sim's genetic body shape.
Each sim also has a current body shape. Those are the weight and fitness values you get from doing workouts, jogging, swimming or overeating. However, the Sim will slowly and gradually return to it's genetic shape if it does not do such activities.
This mod allows for more variation of the current body shape, it does not alter the genetic values. For genetic changes you should rely on other mods.

Although all Sims hold information about their body shape, not all Sim-meshes are able to display them:
Babies: All have the standard body shape
Toddlers: All have the standard body shape
Children: Weight
Teens: Weight+Fitness
Young Adults: Weight+Fitness
Adults: Weight+Fitness
Elders: Weight (They can pump iron but their mesh does not change)


Compatibility:

Make sure you check your patch level to find out which one to download.
This is a core mod and therefore it is rather likely to be incompatible with other core mods and will definitely not work with game versions other than what the download is labelled as.
It overrides the Sims3GameplaySystems.dll of the original gameplay.package and will not work with any core mods that do the same.

It is however compatible with all scripting mods like the NRaas stuff i'm using, slider hacks and other non-core mods that don't get in the way.

I tested it with the Ambitions addon, english game version.

Again, this is still in testing phase, I'm not sure if it works for everyone, so please let me know!
Feedback is welcome.

Credits have to go to Twallan because he pointed out to me here where in the code to look for the values. Unfortunately that was way before I started reading all that Sims 3 code and playing with it, so in the end I found it independent of his hint

NEW: Mild Edition
Due to popular request. And they have a point
Fitness limited to a max of 1.5, weight stays at 2.0

NEW: Unlimited Edition
Due to popular request.
Current version of "Unlimited" unlocks +/-9 for weight and fitness.

NEW Genetic inheritance fix
This is the classic version of the mod plus a genetic inheritance fix.

Genetic bodyweight from custom made slider-hack-Sims is now properly passed on from parents to kids.
The mod fixes a bug of the original game that gave fit parents "standard" fat kids or fat parents skinny kids and takes out limitations.
It also optimizes weight-inheritance for the -2 to 2 scale so that the game thinks these are normal, legal values.
Just like in the original game, kids can inherit fitness only up to a value of 0.5. If you want them fit, send them to the gym

These changes do not make normal Sims have extreme kids, it simply makes sure that the kids inherit the proper values from their parents.

If you want to help out testing this, please install the mod and have your Sims make some babies! See if they turn out right and let me know
Please note:
-EA game logic defines that body shape is inherited from mother OR father, not both mixed together.
-Overeating and sports are temporary changes, not genetic changes. So, obviously, they can't be passed on to your kids.
Oops I lied! It seems that EA has decided that the momentary weight gets passed on to kids

You must have the expansion, game version or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 3
Built with Game Version: 1.29.55
Key: - File was updated after upload was posted
Filename - Tip: You can click the magnifying glass to see the archive contents Size Downloads Date
Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration.zip | Description: For patch level 1.29 3.29 MB 8,558 3rd Mar 2012
Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_Patchlevel _1_31.zip | Description: For patch level 1.31 3.50 MB 5,513 3rd Mar 2012
UNLIMITED_EDITION_Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration.zip | Description: Advanced users only: Unlimited Edition. For patch level 1.31 3.50 MB 3,542 6th Mar 2012
Genetic_Inheritance_Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration.zip | Description: Testing phase: Main mod plus genetic inheritance fix. For patch level 1.31 3.50 MB 2,160 7th Mar 2012
2x Demo.zip | Description: Household of Sims as seen on the teaser picture. No mod required. For all patch levels 542.3 KB 2,604 9th Mar 2012
Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_132.zip | Description: For patch level 1.32 (includes genetic inheritance fix) 3.50 MB 3,556 10th Mar 2012
Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_133.zip | Description: For patch level 1.33 (includes genetic inheritance fix) 3.50 MB 3,251 16th Mar 2012
UNLIMITED EDITION_Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_33.zip | Description: Advanced users only: Unlimited Edition. For patch level 1.33 3.50 MB 2,151 28th Mar 2012
MILD_EDITION_Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_33.zip | Description: Mild Edition For patch level 1.33 (Max fitness limited to 1.5 instead of 2) 3.50 MB 1,044 27th Apr 2012
MILD_EDITION_Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_34.zip | Description: Mild Edition For patch level 1.34 (Max fitness limited to 1.5 instead of 2) 3.50 MB 944 5th Jun 2012
Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_34.zip | Description: For patch level 1.34 (Max fitness 2, max weight 2. As advertized.) 3.50 MB 1,530 5th Jun 2012
UNLIMITED EDITION_Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_34.zip | Description: Advanced users only: Unlimited Edition. For patch level 1.34 3.50 MB 732 10th Jul 2012
UNLIMITED EDITION_Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_36.zip | Description: Advanced users only: Unlimited Edition. For patch level 1.36 3.51 MB 1,349 10th Jul 2012
MILD_EDITION_Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_36.zip | Description: Mild Edition For patch level 1.36 (Max fitness limited to 1.5 instead of 2) 3.51 MB 760 10th Jul 2012
Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_36.zip | Description: For patch level 1.36 (Max fitness 2, max weight 2. As advertized.) 3.51 MB 1,592 10th Jul 2012
UNLIMITED_EDITION_Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_38.zip | Description: Advanced users only: Unlimited Edition. For patch level 1.38 3.72 MB 938 2nd Sep 2012
MILD_EDITION_Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_38.zip | Description: Mild Edition For patch level 1.38 (Max fitness limited to 1.5 instead of 2) 3.72 MB 605 2nd Sep 2012
Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_38.zip | Description: For patch level 1.38 (Max fitness 2, max weight 2. As advertized.) 3.72 MB 1,072 2nd Sep 2012
Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_39.zip | Description: For patch level 1.39 (Max fitness 2, max weight 2. As advertized.) 3.72 MB 686 29th Sep 2012
MILD_EDITION_Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_39.zip | Description: Mild Edition For patch level 1.39 (Max fitness limited to 1.5 instead of 2) 3.72 MB 544 29th Sep 2012
UNLIMITED_EDITION_Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_39.zip | Description: Advanced users only: Unlimited Edition. For patch level 1.39 3.72 MB 785 29th Sep 2012
UNLIMITED_EDITION_Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_42.zip | Description: Advanced users only: Unlimited Edition. For patch level 1.42 4.00 MB 1,298 30th Oct 2012
MILD_EDITION_Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_42.zip | Description: Mild Edition For patch level 1.42 (Max fitness limited to 1.5 instead of 2) 4.00 MB 800 30th Oct 2012
Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_42.zip | Description: For patch level 1.42 (Max fitness 2, max weight 2. As advertized.) 4.00 MB 1,804 30th Oct 2012
UNLIMITED_EDITION_Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_47.zip | Description: Advanced users only: Unlimited Edition. For patch level 1.47 + 1.48 4.00 MB 764 9th Jan 2013
MILD_EDITION_Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_47.zip | Description: Mild Edition For patch level 1.47 + 1.48 (Max fitness limited to 1.5 instead of 2) 4.00 MB 530 9th Jan 2013
Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_47.zip | Description: For patch level 1.47 + 1.48 (Max fitness 2, max weight 2. As advertized.) 4.00 MB 1,090 9th Jan 2013
UNLIMITED_EDITION_Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_50.zip | Description: Advanced users only: Unlimited Edition. For patch level 1.50 4.31 MB 1,427 20th Feb 2013
MILD_EDITION_Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_50.zip | Description: Mild Edition For patch level 1.50 (Max fitness limited to 1.5 instead of 2) 4.31 MB 789 20th Feb 2013
Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_50.zip | Description: For patch level 1.50 (Max fitness 2, max weight 2. As advertized.) 4.31 MB 2,599 20th Feb 2013
UNLIMITED_EDITION_Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_55.zip | Description: Advanced users only: Unlimited Edition. For patch level 1.55 4.53 MB 1,523 19th Jun 2013
MILD_EDITION_Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_55.zip | Description: Mild Edition For patch level 1.55 (Max fitness limited to 1.5 instead of 2) 4.53 MB 718 19th Jun 2013
Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_55.zip | Description: For patch level 1.55 (Max fitness 2, max weight 2. As advertized.) 4.52 MB 2,229 19th Jun 2013
UNLIMITED_EDITION_Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_57.zip | Description: Advanced users only: Unlimited Edition. For patch level 1.57 4.52 MB 685 6th Sep 2013
MILD_EDITION_Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_57.zip | Description: Mild Edition For patch level 1.57 (Max fitness limited to 1.5 instead of 2) 4.52 MB 466 6th Sep 2013
Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_57.zip | Description: For patch level 1.57 (Max fitness 2, max weight 2. As advertized.) 4.52 MB 1,000 6th Sep 2013
UNLIMITED_EDITION_Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_63.zip | Description: Advanced users only: Unlimited Edition. For patch level 1.63 4.74 MB 1,341 19th Oct 2013
MILD_EDITION_Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_63.zip | Description: Mild Edition For patch level 1.63 (Max fitness limited to 1.5 instead of 2) 4.74 MB 711 19th Oct 2013
Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_63.zip | Description: For patch level 1.63 (Max fitness 2, max weight 2. As advertized.) 4.74 MB 1,955 19th Oct 2013
UNLIMITED_EDITION_Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_66.zip | Description: Advanced users only: Unlimited Edition. For patch level 1.66 4.74 MB 497 21st Jan 2014
MILD_Edition_Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_66.zip | Description: Mild Edition For patch level 1.66 (Max fitness limited to 1.5 instead of 2) 4.74 MB 347 21st Jan 2014
Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_66.zip | Description: For patch level 1.66 (Max fitness 2, max weight 2. As advertized.) 4.74 MB 619 21st Jan 2014
UNLIMITED_EDITION_Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_67.zip | Description: Advanced users only: Unlimited Edition. For patch level 1.67 4.72 MB 4,174 1st Feb 2014
MILD_EDITION_Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration_1_67.zip | Description: Mild Edition For patch level 1.67 (Max fitness limited to 1.5 instead of 2) 4.72 MB 1,968 1st Feb 2014
Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration1_67.zip | Description: For patch level 1.67 (Max fitness 2, max weight 2. As advertized.) 4.72 MB 7,881 1st Feb 2014
UNLIMITED_EDITION_Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration1_69.zip | Description: Advanced users only: Unlimited Edition. For patch level 1.69 4.73 MB 2,374 17th Apr 2016
MILD_EDITION_Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration1_69.zip | Description: Mild Edition For patch level 1.69 (Max fitness limited to 1.5 instead of 2) 4.73 MB 1,012 17th Apr 2016
Consort_2x_Weight_and_Fitness_Integration1_69.zip | Description: For patch level 1.69 (Max fitness 2, max weight 2. As advertized.) 4.73 MB 4,889 17th Apr 2016
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See: Game Help:TS3 CC Basicswiki for a full guide!
 
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Lab Assistant
THANKS POST
#51 Old 5th Mar 2012 at 1:40 PM
This mod is very cool! It's what i expected for long time! Thanks so much!
Test Subject
#52 Old 5th Mar 2012 at 8:18 PM
Another quick update. After using it for a couple days I've noticed a couple glitches. I can't be 100% sure they are caused by the mod but they started showing up after I downloaded it. One thing is a career glitch. Anytime I sign my sim up for a permanent career, there is a glitch where when they are supposed to go to work but it becomes impossible for them to leave. No matter how many times I select "Work" in the options wheels from my sims car, the carpool and the actual work building, the "Going to work
shows up in their queue and then immediately disappears. I also noticed some items have become invisible. I noticed the stove, laptop and toilet were gone and when I went to buy new ones i couldn't place them in the original spot. When I went to have my sim cook, he cooked over an invisible stove range.
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Original Poster
#53 Old 5th Mar 2012 at 10:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bfs69
Anytime I sign my sim up for a permanent career, there is a glitch where when they are supposed to go to work but it becomes impossible for them to leave.


I have seen this bug occasionally.
The quick fix is to manually select "change outfit", select work uniform and send the sim to work.

I think it's a new bug in 1.31 that you can get without the mod aswell.
Test Subject
THANKS POST
#54 Old 5th Mar 2012 at 10:21 PM
So when will the other multipliers be released, Consort?
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Original Poster
#55 Old 5th Mar 2012 at 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DarthRuin
So when will the other multipliers be released, Consort?


Gimme about 90 mins. Watching TopGear now
Lab Assistant
#56 Old 5th Mar 2012 at 11:18 PM
Okay, I have a few comments about this mod.
1. I can make sims fatter/fitter in-game, but not in CAS. Does this require XCAS?
2. How does one make a sim super skinny in-game?
3. There's a significant pause/lag when a sim is gaining weight above the normal range now. I don't know if it's the same with getting fitter. I also don't know if it's because I'm playing in a large house with 8 sims and a horse either. Fixing this would be wonderful.
Other than these few things, the mod is excellent and I would really like seeing similar mods in the future!
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THANKS POST
#57 Old 5th Mar 2012 at 11:23 PM
Awsome..now i can make my more thick sims
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#58 Old 5th Mar 2012 at 11:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kittykat999
Okay, I have a few comments about this mod.
1. I can make sims fatter/fitter in-game, but not in CAS. Does this require XCAS?
2. How does one make a sim super skinny in-game?
3. There's a significant pause/lag when a sim is gaining weight above the normal range now. I don't know if it's the same with getting fitter. I also don't know if it's because I'm playing in a large house with 8 sims and a horse either. Fixing this would be wonderful.
Other than these few things, the mod is excellent and I would really like seeing similar mods in the future!


1. Yes, this is not a slider hack to generate custom Sims but a mod that tries to make those custom sims work nicely in the game environment.
2. You actually can't, but super skinny Sims now work in the game without snapping (sorry if the pictures are misleading)
3. I have noticed tiny lags whenever a new body shape is rendered by the game, but hadn't yet noticed it's longer when a sim goes "out of bounds". This could be your horse's fault I'll pay attention to that next time, but it's probably nothing I could fix.
Lab Assistant
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#59 Old 6th Mar 2012 at 8:13 AM
This mod is sooo funny !! Over muscular men and women and obese ones, everywhere !! XD XD
Test Subject
#60 Old 6th Mar 2012 at 7:23 PM
Am I missing something? I downloaded this mod, and the other two that are cited in the description (Skin tone and CAS Body slider hack) and I removed all my other mods, but none of these work.
Test Subject
#61 Old 6th Mar 2012 at 7:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by XBBCX7891
Am I missing something? I downloaded this mod, and the other two that are cited in the description (Skin tone and CAS Body slider hack) and I removed all my other mods, but none of these work.


Here is my game version, btw:
[Version]
LatestBase = 1.31.118.015017

I also have ambitions, pets, and late night. Thanks!
Test Subject
#62 Old 6th Mar 2012 at 7:56 PM
one more quick thing i noticed. when i went to a park in Riverview while there i saw basically a duplicate of the current sim i was playing. He had the exact same name and clothing as when i first created him, the only difference was he didn't have all the muscle. i'm not sure if that is caused by the mod or not. also, do you have plans to edit or create the option to chose how long it takes for exercising/overeating to take its affects?
Test Subject
#63 Old 6th Mar 2012 at 8:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by XBBCX7891
Here is my game version, btw:
[Version]
LatestBase = 1.31.118.015017

I also have ambitions, pets, and late night. Thanks!


Never mind, got it working. Amazing mod! Love it! Definitely worth removing Awesomemod and installing the one you're using. They work perfectly together!
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#64 Old 7th Mar 2012 at 12:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bfs69
one more quick thing i noticed. when i went to a park in Riverview while there i saw basically a duplicate of the current sim i was playing. He had the exact same name and clothing as when i first created him, the only difference was he didn't have all the muscle. i'm not sure if that is caused by the mod or not. also, do you have plans to edit or create the option to chose how long it takes for exercising/overeating to take its affects?


Hm yea that bug just happened to me too. It does not seem to be unheard of even the unmodded game http://sims3.crinrict.com/en/2011/03/bug-clones.html

I dont have World Adventures, it happened to a Sim from my library that I placed in town.
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#65 Old 7th Mar 2012 at 1:27 AM Last edited by tagurit : 7th Mar 2012 at 1:55 AM.
I love this! I always found it so annoying having them exercise which causes them to return to their skinny selves.

An unlimited option would be a lovely prospect. Would there be a way for you to create that, and if so, I will be in line for testing!

ETA: I just saw the unlimited option. + / - 9 seems like a perfect value. Thanks so much for the awesomeness!
Test Subject
THANKS POST
#66 Old 7th Mar 2012 at 10:03 AM
LOL! The family pic is super funny.
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#67 Old 7th Mar 2012 at 9:20 PM
Works great! My female has some serious muscle(which is kinda creeping me out a bit).
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#68 Old 7th Mar 2012 at 11:25 PM
Default New mod version. Feel like testing?
Alrighty
The main mod seems to work great, so I just released the new version with genetic inheritance fix.

If anyone feels like playing the "surrounded by family" lifetime wish for an evening, it would be great if you can let me know how your kids turn out.

I'm interested in how your slider-hack Sims procreate, but also if normal Simkids turn out fine (should not be much different)

Info can be found at the bottom of the overview page.
Lab Assistant
#69 Old 8th Mar 2012 at 12:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Consort
1. Yes, this is not a slider hack to generate custom Sims but a mod that tries to make those custom sims work nicely in the game environment.
2. You actually can't, but super skinny Sims now work in the game without snapping (sorry if the pictures are misleading)
3. I have noticed tiny lags whenever a new body shape is rendered by the game, but hadn't yet noticed it's longer when a sim goes "out of bounds". This could be your horse's fault I'll pay attention to that next time, but it's probably nothing I could fix.

Thanks for the help! However, I have one other question: Can a sim go beyond the regular bounds of 1 and -1 by using the Body Sculptor lifetime reward? I am just curious...
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#70 Old 8th Mar 2012 at 2:57 AM
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Originally Posted by kittykat999
Thanks for the help! However, I have one other question: Can a sim go beyond the regular bounds of 1 and -1 by using the Body Sculptor lifetime reward? I am just curious...


I haven't tried, but no
Test Subject
#71 Old 9th Mar 2012 at 3:31 PM
what patch did pets come with? idk cause my launcher got a bug r somtin and got rid of it
Test Subject
#72 Old 9th Mar 2012 at 3:46 PM
is there some way i could do it myself? my dads creates software, and although he's forbidden me from downloading mods i have a vague idea of what it's like.....
Lab Assistant
#73 Old 10th Mar 2012 at 3:27 PM
Must say this is a fantabulous mod!! I was getting tired of my Sims who work out all the time looking like every other Sim, same with the over eaters, etc.

Thanks so much for this!!

MUMBLER! Seriously, I cannot understand a word you're saying! .... Willy Wonka, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Test Subject
#74 Old 11th Mar 2012 at 4:31 AM
I only see few uses for this.. but overall I dislike it, the idea is good. Just a bit over done 4/10
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