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Picked upload! The Third Person Mod

by QuackGames Posted 3rd Apr 2019 at 9:04 PM - Updated 14th Apr 2019 at 8:41 AM by QuackGames
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Picked Upload! This is a picked upload! It showcases some of the best talent and creativity available on MTS and in the community.
  • What does the mod do?
This mod allows you to step into the shoes of your Sims and see the world through their perspective, adding a whole new layer of immersion to your regular gameplay. With the press of a button (F1) you can seamlessly switch between normal mode and third person mode. While in third person, you can control your Sims using your keyboad to move them around the world by pressing the following keys:

W, A, S, D: Movement
Shift: Sprint
F1: Activate/Deactivate Third Person

The entire locomotion system was built from the ground up for third person. This means that the gameplay is as fluid and seamless as ever. Your Sims will automatically go through doors, climb stairs, swim in pools and even swim in the ocean, without ever taking the control away from you. You are able to control every Sim in the game. This includes Sims of all ages ranging from toddlers to elders, pets of all ages, and occult Sims like mummies, vampires, fairies, werewolves, mermaids, etc. They all have their own set of animations, each looking and feeling individually different from the rest. The camera is also intelligent and will adapt and move around depending on the situation and on what your Sims are doing. The arrow keys will rotate the camera, aswell as the "Q" and "E" keys. You can also move the mouse to the edges of the screen to rotate the camera while in third person, and use the mouse wheel to control the zoom.
  • Changelog
2019.04.01: Release.
2019.04.03: Fixed some ocean swimming related bugs.
2019.04.04: Added some localization languages. Added camera controls.
2019.04.05: Fixed mermaid animations. Fixed stuttering animations while not in third person.
2019.04.06:
Added indoors over-the-shoulder camera;
Improved camera controls;
"Q" and "E" now rotates the camera. "Shift + Tab" now alternatively activates/deactivates third person;
Camera pitch now goes up to 90º so you can play it like a top-down third person game;
Fixed stuttering animations;
Fixed going up and down platforms;
Added some localization languages.
2019.04.08:
Fixed a rare game breaking bug that could permanently delete your Sim from existence;
Sims and dogs will now seamlessly get in and out of pools;
Fixed dog swimming animations;
Dogs will no longer get the "Soaked" moodlet for not wearing swimwear while swimming;
Slightly lowered camera height for cats, dogs, toddlers and Sims swimming;
Slightly lowered indoors camera height;
Improved indoors camera controls;
Fixed hot tub camera;
Edge camera rotation will now only work if you have the "Edge Scrolling" option enabled;
Slightly lowered edge camera rotation sensitivity;
Ghost Sims won't collide with ANYTHING anymore;
Added some localization languages.
2019.04.12:
Fixed a bug where walls would go up and down while passing through doors or climbing stairs.
2019.04.14:
Added Alternative Camera. You can now press "Alt + C" to switch between third person camera and the alternative regular camera while in third person mode.
  • Notes
This is a pure scripting mod compiled on the 1.67 (latest) version of the game. It simply adds a new behaviour to the game and doesn't override any game tunings, so there shouldn't be any conflicts with other mods or CC.
  • Localization
The mod is currently localized for the following languages:
  • English
  • Brazilian Portuguese
If you would like to help me localize this mod, download "ThirdPersonStrings_EN_US.zip," unzip it, open the text file with Notepad (or other text editor), translate the text between the "STR" tags, and send me your translation. Read this if you want to know more about localized coding.

Additional Credits:
Thanks to S3PE, TigerM for Smooth Jazz Animation, SimEve1 for Fog Emitter Effects List, and thank YOU!
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ThirdPersonStrings_EN_US.zip | Description: Download this if you want to translate the mod for your language. 1,017 Bytes 1,333 3rd Apr 2019
QuackGames_ThirdPerson.zip 30.4 KB 953 14th Apr 2019
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Lab Assistant
THANKS POST
#76 Old 5th Apr 2019 at 12:43 PM
Are you ever gonna share some of the things you learned while messing around with the TS3 engine? The knowledge you may share can actually be a gamechanger for the entire community!!
Test Subject
#77 Old 5th Apr 2019 at 12:51 PM
Default Reminded of TS2 for Consoles + Dutch Translation for the mod!
This mod reminds me of TS2 for consoles! Definitely going to try it.

I also made a Dutch translation.

- FoxInBootz (though you can credit me as M13Vulpecula)
Download - please read all instructions before downloading any files!
File Type: zip ThirdPersonStrings_NL.zip (996 Bytes, 4 downloads)
Description: Nederlandse vertaling voor de derdepersoonsmod / Dutch Translation for the 3rd person mod
Test Subject
Original Poster
#78 Old 5th Apr 2019 at 12:55 PM Last edited by QuackGames : 5th Apr 2019 at 1:06 PM.
Quote:
Originally Posted by alterno
sorry if this is a dumb question but the latest download has 2 packages (third person and third person jazz) and I was wondering if I'm supposed to put both in my packages folder or just one? (and if just one, which one?)


Both packages are essential for the mod to work. Paste both of them in your packages folder.

Quote:
Originally Posted by kkaizer
I tested the newest version and my sims also stutter even in normal mode with the mod installed... It happens from time to time not always. Also, it only happens outside of the lots. Inside the house, sims don't stutter walking.


If that's the case I think I know what's happening, and it's fixable.

Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxInBootz
This mod reminds me of TS2 for consoles! Definitely going to try it.

I also made a Dutch translation.

- FoxInBootz (though you can credit me as M13Vulpecula)


Thanks for your translation! I've already updated the mod with it.
Test Subject
THANKS POST
#79 Old 5th Apr 2019 at 1:13 PM
Yay, it got updated quicker than I expected. I'll try it out in Dutch today.
Lab Assistant
#80 Old 5th Apr 2019 at 1:28 PM
Hi, i've made an italian translation of the strings, in case you were interested c:
Edit: MTS attachment ain't working, Simsfileshare link: http://www.simfileshare.net/download/1007041/
Download - please read all instructions before downloading any files!
File Type: rar ThirdPersonStrings_Italian.rar (903 Bytes, 4 downloads)
Test Subject
Original Poster
#81 Old 5th Apr 2019 at 3:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by littledica
Hi, i've made an italian translation of the strings, in case you were interested c:
Edit: MTS attachment ain't working, Simsfileshare link: http://www.simfileshare.net/download/1007041/


Thanks for your translation! I've just updated the mod with it.
Lab Assistant
#82 Old 5th Apr 2019 at 3:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by QuackGames
Thanks for your translation! I've just updated the mod with it.


You're so welcome! I'm very keen on this mod and will try to offer the most support for it if needed Thanks for your hard work!
Test Subject
#83 Old 5th Apr 2019 at 6:43 PM
Default Dutch translation update + First playing experience
First: I noticed 2 small typos in the Dutch translation. I fixed them now. Sorry for the inconvenience. :o


I played the mod for a little bit and I got some feedback and ideas from my experience:
  • Overall I think the mod is pretty useful and it gives the game a new feel, which indeed reminded me of the Sims 2 console days as expected.
  • In my personal experience it felt a little counterintuitive to move my Sim using ASDW and move the camera using the arrow keys. I believe a toggle option to move the Sim using arrow keys and to move the camera with ASDW could make the mod feel more intuitive for those who are used to such controls. Another idea: what if moving the mouse could be used to rotate the camera (just like in tab mode), and either the ASDW/arrow keys could be used to give our Sim actions to do?
  • I do write a lot for a Sims story, and for said story I often need to position my Sims, also off-lots at times. I feel this mod is much more efficient at doing that, than just clicking 'go here' is.
  • Sometimes when my Sim was talking, the camera rotated a little awkwardly and then jumped back. Or it moved back to behind my Sim after I rotated it a bit. I think eventually finetuning this could be a solid step further down the road.
  • Also, when I zoomed the camera out it would stay on around the same height level as the Sim. I think that zooming out combined with rising the camera a bit in height would give a nice overview of your Sim's environment.
  • Idea about cars: what if we could directly control our Sims driving vehicles? For example: press W to drive, press A to go left at a crossroad, or D to go right, and press S to stop and get out.

Some gameplay tips:
  • I'd recommend using smaller worlds with little space between lots for this mod. It'd make going around the neighborhood very immersive: when you get out of the front door you cross the road to have a walk in the park. After you chat with a neighbor there you go to the grocery shop around the corner to buy some veggies for fishing. A bigger world would need cars to move around efficiently to another lot.
  • Use this mod for smaller households. Bigger households need a lot of micromanagement to make the most out of them, and for that the classical gameplay would be better. Third Person view would be much more useful for smaller households though, where playing your Sims as efficiently as possible is easier using third person than using classic controls.
  • Third Person mode would be very immersive in World Adventures' tombs. Instead of just moving the camera around to explore, you now have to walk your Sim around and have them explore the tombs themselves to find elements to solve puzzles. Kinda like how you explore the islands in Castaway on the consoles.
  • The constant camera movement is kinda heavy on the CPU. Using this in combination with another mod that does that might cause lag. I enabled Story Progression and didn't delete townies in my gameplay, and when Story Progression started rolling jobs for the townie horde my game eventually decided to crash. Oops
  • You can use this mod to quickly get crowds stuck in front of a door through it quickly, effectively solving traffic jams.
Download - please read all instructions before downloading any files!
File Type: zip ThirdPersonStrings_NL.zip (998 Bytes, 3 downloads)
Test Subject
#84 Old 5th Apr 2019 at 6:51 PM
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Originally Posted by QuackGames
Thanks for your feedback and I'm glad you enjoyed the mod!



World bridges are a real pain to deal with because they are not part of the terrain and they are not "portals" (like doors or stairs). The routing system in the game has it's own seperate way of handling them and make the Sims treat them as terrain, which I was not able to replicate here because most of the routing code is embed deep inside the engine. I will try to look into it though.



Good call, I'll see what I can do about those.



That would be cool indeed, but how do you suggest doing that without having to overhaul the entire interaction interface? I've thought of something like you press E and it chooses the first interaction, or a random interaction, with said object. But I don't think that's much intuitive, since most of the time you won't know what your Sim will do when you press E. I'm open for suggestions if you have any.


ok, first of all, you are awesome for doing this, asking any more would be asking too much. Still, if you still have the patience and energy to explore further, I have no idea how and if this works on this game, but I has thinking that pressing E might open a menu for the interactions. Like in other games you are given options to choose from, even if it is fewer. In case it needs to have a further path (like, talking with sims, e.g. friendly -> get to know), to just have a random interaction from the second step onwards. If on the other hand you feel inspired and, again, have the patience and energy, maybe it could be made like the rpg dialogues, which have more steps throughout the dialogue when interacting with npcs?
Other than that, you might have to go through all objects one by one and select the most basic interactions and use not only E, but more buttons and then it will be up to us to remember it, idk. you did so much work, I am personally happy with even this, I feel like I am asking too much already anyway.

Couldn't be more thankful!

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Test Subject
#85 Old 5th Apr 2019 at 7:44 PM
I just tried this mod out, and HOLY MOTHER-FORKING SHIRT-BALLS!! I've always wanted to experience TS3 in a way like this and thank you thank you thank you thank you!!
Test Subject
#86 Old 5th Apr 2019 at 9:37 PM
Heya, is there a way to make it so I get notifications for if a mod updates?
Test Subject
#87 Old 5th Apr 2019 at 10:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxInBootz
idea about cars: what if we could directly control our Sims driving vehicles? For example: press W to drive, press A to go left at a crossroad, or D to go right, and press S to stop and get out.


That would be awesome!
Theorist
#88 Old 5th Apr 2019 at 10:39 PM
I tested the mod further and I noticed a lot of things, some minor and maybe a way to actually get the camera more comfortable. It's really hard to play the sim that up close with camera that resets on movement of any key except...

Well this is what I discovered:

- Camera pitch and zoom DON'T reset to default position but stay in the position that the player has set only when the sim moves with S key. Rotation of the camera however does get reset to the way sim is facing but I don't mind this as I feel it is supposed to work this way.

I don't know the inner workings of this, but all three W,A,D keys completely reset anything camera related when pressed, and only S behaves like this. I've found it much easier to control the sim this way, meaning moving backwards to move forward. Steering with A and D works with S pressed as well without affecting the camera.

- This is a completely separate locomotion system from EA's so I suppose how you've done it is that sim is still considered idle in the game (meaning not moving)? I wonder if that is the reason that idle animations play when the sim is moving trough this mod, but they don't show up until the sim stops. I suppose that this is also the reason why there's no foot effects on snow or rain?

I don't really mind the last part tho. The only thing I'd love to see improve is the stuttering that's happening outside and the camera.
I'd love to thank you for this mod once again because it does make a lot of aspects of the game more enjoyable. I loved swimming in the ocean with my sims, it's no longer boring me to death :D
Test Subject
Original Poster
#89 Old 5th Apr 2019 at 11:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mixa97sr
- Camera pitch and zoom DON'T reset to default position but stay in the position that the player has set only when the sim moves with S key. Rotation of the camera however does get reset to the way sim is facing but I don't mind this as I feel it is supposed to work this way.
I don't know the inner workings of this, but all three W,A,D keys completely reset anything camera related when pressed, and only S behaves like this. I've found it much easier to control the sim this way, meaning moving backwards to move forward. Steering with A and D works with S pressed as well without affecting the camera.


Just wanted to say that yes, I am working on some ways to improve the camera controls. What you have now is just the first iteration, which I made sure to quickly upload because I think that "some" camera control is better than nothing. One of the things that I'm working on is to make the camera keep your pitch and zoom, like the S key does, on all keys. Another thing is a way to make the camera know when you're indoors and your view is blocked by objects, so that it can adjust to that situation.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mixa97sr
- This is a completely separate locomotion system from EA's so I suppose how you've done it is that sim is still considered idle in the game (meaning not moving)? I wonder if that is the reason that idle animations play when the sim is moving trough this mod, but they don't show up until the sim stops. I suppose that this is also the reason why there's no foot effects on snow or rain?


That is exactly right. The game does consider idling when you're moving using the third person control. That is why there is that warning in the beginning recommending you to disable autonomy. Else, the Sim would just do any random interaction since they're technically idling. This is something that is at the core of the mod, so changing it would mean I would have to change everything else. And I could not find another way to make this work. EA's locomotion system was not cooperating at all, simply because it wasn't built for this kind of direct control. At first I tried to forcefully repurpose it, but I quickly found that wasn't going to work since it was generating a lot (A LOT) of routing problems. So I had to make my own.
Forum Resident
#90 Old 6th Apr 2019 at 12:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by QuackGames
Another thing is a way to make the camera know when you're indoors and your view is blocked by objects, so that it can adjust to that situation.


This sounds really difficult to implement. A good compromise would be to autoadjust the camera to be over-the-shoulder (It shows from the waist up. For example). It would make navigating indoors much easier. If you can't do automatically, maybe add the option to do zoom in closer and control the height of the camera with Q and E like when using the free camera mode.

Quote:
Originally Posted by QuackGames
That is exactly right. The game does consider idling when you're moving using the third person control. That is why there is that warning in the beginning recommending you to disable autonomy. Else, the Sim would just do any random interaction since they're technically idling. This is something that is at the core of the mod, so changing it would mean I would have to change everything else. And I could not find another way to make this work. EA's locomotion system was not cooperating at all, simply because it wasn't built for this kind of direct control. At first I tried to forcefully repurpose it, but I quickly found that wasn't going to work since it was generating a lot (A LOT) of routing problems. So I had to make my own.


I have an idea. Maybe you can add a "dummy" interaction when you're holding down W, A, S or D that does nothing but tricks the game into thinking your Sim isn't idling. It would trigger when you press any of the movement keys and remain queued until you release the key. I don't know how fast the game can process interactions that do nothing, though. Maybe it would add a delay in movement.
Test Subject
THANKS POST
#91 Old 6th Apr 2019 at 2:42 AM
This man is legit
Lab Assistant
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#92 Old 6th Apr 2019 at 2:42 AM
This is so insanely cool, thanks!!!!
Field Researcher
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#93 Old 6th Apr 2019 at 3:11 AM
The Sims 3 has this feature now and yet The Sims 4 doesn't have it for either third person or first person. :-(

This is awesome though.
Lab Assistant
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#94 Old 6th Apr 2019 at 4:01 AM
Please do one for Sims 2
Instructor
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#95 Old 6th Apr 2019 at 4:31 AM
Brasil marcando presença com qualidade ultra!! Valeu <3
Lab Assistant
#96 Old 6th Apr 2019 at 5:56 AM
I will say that in-game it doesn't use the animation for the elder walking canes(southern gentleman and geriatric gait). They just hold the cane awkwardly and do a normal walk cycle.
Test Subject
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#97 Old 6th Apr 2019 at 5:58 AM
OMG!! This mod gonna be awesome forever!!!!
Instructor
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#98 Old 6th Apr 2019 at 5:59 AM
This mod has completely changed my Sims 3 experience! I've only been using it about 20 minutes but already I've noticed so many details that were lost on me in vanilla gameplay. The sound the trash compactor makes, the noise that comes from the fish tank, and the ambient dog barking you can hear at night. There's so much more atmosphere! I can't tell you how cool it was to send my sim on a stroll down the block and to hear music emanating from the stadium and send them to a surprise concert. I also love the way the camera focuses on the TV when you send your sim to watch. So excited to see how this mod develops!
Field Researcher
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#99 Old 6th Apr 2019 at 9:53 AM
Thank you so much!!This is amazing!Im so glad that you created this for sims 3!
Absolutely stunning idea!
You are awesome!
Thanks a billion times!!!
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Tags: #third, #person, #locomotion, #keyboard, #move, #around, #WASD, #direct, #control