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grizzlyburr 26th Sep 2011 8:24 AM

Strip Club in Sims 3
 
Ive looked all over and found only strip club mods for the sims 2 but i was wondering if anyone knew any way to make a strip club in sims 3?

Sisaly 26th Sep 2011 8:59 AM

Not yet, at least unless you want to do still pics. These type of Where Can I Find (WCIF) best belong here...WCIF

Srikandi 26th Sep 2011 9:00 AM

Are you looking for advice on how to mod it? You'd want the modding forums under the Create menu

If you're looking for an existing mod, you want the WCIF forum under the Help menu.

I'd say the feasibility depends on how exactly you want your strip club to work. If it requires custom animations, we haven't come as far with that in TS3... the knowledge is out there on how to do it, but it's apparently a lot more work than it was in TS2. If you want to be the pioneer, though (spending a lot of time developing custom animations and working with another modder to get them in the game), I'm sure plenty of people would be delighted

If you think you can be satisfied with using existing animations, then you'd probably want to look at the scripting tutorials http://www.modthesims.info/wiki.php..._GeneralModding. The Custom Careers tutorial at NRaas might also be useful, as might taking a look at Ani_'s Working Girl's Bed http://www.modthesims.info/d/395024 , and/or Twallan's Woohooer.

Ultimately though, determining whether it's feasible given the current state of TS3 modding depends on what exactly you want the functionality to be.

zigersimmer 26th Sep 2011 4:04 PM

This should have been included in Late Night. Maybe we'll get a Vegas Adventures expansion.

van Dorn 27th Sep 2011 2:35 AM

It is too mature for a game rated T. I mean, teenagers most likely do know and see more than they should, but it is not always legal.

Srikandi 27th Sep 2011 2:54 AM

We do have something kinda close to it, with the bachelor party entertainers from Generations.

I would think the resources used for that, and/or the LN table dance, plus some strategic outfit changes, could be used by a scripting whiz to simulate a stripper. You wouldn't have your pole dances or your lap dances without new animations, though.

And a lot more coding to get whatever OTHER functionality is needed (e.g. sim-stripper interactions) working.

A simpler approach would be to make new outfits (or un-outfits?) for the bachelor party dancers, and then liberate the bachelor party to remove the requirement that a sim be engaged to throw one.

van Dorn 27th Sep 2011 3:45 AM

I hadn't really considered the Generations entertainers. Besides, couldn't you just use the current nude outfits which have been created by modders and then set them to be used by entertainer NPCs? But yes, you are right. And if you throw a bachelor party at a club, BAM! Instant strip club. Of course, assuming everything else Srikandi said were to be done.

auroraspirit 27th Sep 2011 4:44 PM

Dancing on tables is as far as it will go in my opinion for night life, don't know if sexy sims ever had a sims 3 site, such things are too M rated for a T rated game.

WoohooAndTheCity 27th Sep 2011 10:02 PM

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The "entertainers" in Generations are a pathetic excuse for adult entertainment in this game. Their dance moves are not sexy and their costumes are bland.

What would be more appropriate for a bachelor/bachelorette party are the entertainers in Sims 1 House Party (the ones that pop out of a giant cake). At least they were dressed to tease and behaved accordingly. Those animations/oufits could work in a strip club setting too.

Celebriton 28th Sep 2011 2:13 AM

I remember someone try to make a stripper mod, where sims using " LN dance on the table", attract visitors to watch and earn money.

But he never publish it. Too bad.

Srikandi 28th Sep 2011 4:05 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Alley_Gaytor
What would be more appropriate for a bachelor/bachelorette party are the entertainers in Sims 1 House Party (the ones that pop out of a giant cake). At least they were dressed to tease and behaved accordingly. Those animations/oufits could work in a strip club setting too.


LOL Well, the TS3 outfits can easily be modded. Good luck trying to convert TS1 2D sprite based animations to 3D models though

Quote: Originally posted by auroraspirit
Dancing on tables is as far as it will go in my opinion for night life, don't know if sexy sims ever had a sims 3 site, such things are too M rated for a T rated game.


SexySims2 has (a few) TS3 mods as well. Such a mod couldn't be hosted here, of course (well, depending on how nude exactly the "strippers" got I suppose). But there are plenty of "adult" mods already for TS3, at various sites... they're just mostly scripting mods and CAS stuff, just because the animation piece seems to be so hard. Since the mods don't ship with the game, the game rating is pretty much a non-issue IMO (MTS has a family friendly policy, but that's to make the website more accessible to more people, not out of a desire to censor mods).

mithrak_nl 28th Sep 2011 9:54 AM

I was just thinking, what if Nightlife exp had stripclub dancers to go with the clubs. With the default way that the game automatically assigns sims to registers, bars etc, you would probably end up with some granny (Ms Crumplebottom? ) or ghost dancing a pole

That would cure the OP right away from his stripclub fever

Laisanae 28th Sep 2011 1:08 PM

They should make an M rated EP, including things like this. But I doubt it will ever happen.

WoohooAndTheCity 28th Sep 2011 4:53 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Srikandi
LOL Well, the TS3 outfits can easily be modded. Good luck trying to convert TS1 2D sprite based animations to 3D models though


I wasn't suggesting converting TS1 animations to TS3. I was just giving an example. If you compare the cake entertainers in TS1 and the bachelor/bachelorette party entertainers in TS3, it's obvious that the ones in TS1 have sexier moves.

calisims 28th Sep 2011 5:16 PM

Whenever I hired the cake dancers in TS1 for an adult party, I got the stupid hippo. If I hired an entertainer for a kid's party, then the game would send me the dancer.

Tempscire 28th Sep 2011 6:18 PM

Quote: Originally posted by calisims
Whenever I hired the cake dancers in TS1 for an adult party, I got the stupid hippo. If I hired an entertainer for a kid's party, then the game would send me the dancer.

Pink gorilla, you mean? It got summoned instead of a sexy dancer if there was a kid in the room at that time.

calisims 28th Sep 2011 6:23 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Tempscire
Pink gorilla, you mean? It got summoned instead of a sexy dancer if there was a kid in the room at that time.


Right, gorilla, it's been a long time. But I do remember it would show up to parties where there were no children, while the 'sexy' dancers would show up to parties where I had several kids.
My very first party was with a single guy, in a neighborhood that didn't even have kids, and I got the gorilla.

DreadWizardDM 28th Sep 2011 7:56 PM

I tend to wish there was more adult content for the game. SX2 is basically a ghost town anymore with hardly any adult content for the sims 3. I also agree with whoever stated they should make a rated M expansion.

kjd73170 29th Sep 2011 12:07 PM

A rated M version could be called "Sims 3 - all growed up" or something of that nature.

zigersimmer 29th Sep 2011 3:15 PM

Quote: Originally posted by kjd73170
A rated M version could be called "Sims 3 - all growed up" or something of that nature.


Or, "Sims 3 - What Happens in Vegas..."

McChoclatey 29th Sep 2011 3:40 PM

It kinda seems like Late Night's additions and a few of generation's additions are as close to adult as me might get. Or maybe not, you never know. But we've gotten breast sliders, muscle sliders, the ability to woohoo, dance on tables, make drinks, blow "bubbles" and dance "sexily" in the club. The game's rated Teen, and to me, it doesn't look like it'd be fit for a lot of adult things. It would be nice for it to appeal more to the adult audiences who play, and I think things like the breast slider did just that. Maybe there will be more adult mods out to fully suit some people's tastes. I think the adult stuff is good if you want variety, but not as an expansion pack. As mods.

WoohooAndTheCity 2nd Oct 2011 10:25 AM

Imagine if all 3 games were sexified and had an M rating. The EP names would have been:

The Sims: Like 'Em Large
The Sims: House Bunny
The Sims: Hot Mate
The Sims: Fornication
The Sims: Undressed
The Sims: Pornstar
The Sims: Makin' Babies

The Sims 2: Nudiversity
The Sims 2: Nightcap
The Sims 2: Wide Open for Business
The Sims 2: Doggy Style
The Sims 2: Threesomes
The Sims 2: Menage a Trois
The Sims 2: Quickie Time
The Sims 2: Abstinent Life

The Sims 3: World Sexcapades
The Sims 3: Emissions
The Sims 3: Booty Call
The Sims 3: Penetrations
The Sims 3: Doggy Style Pt. II

And let's not forget the stuff packs:

The Sims 2: Holiday Orgy Pack
The Sims 2: FFS (For Fuck's Sake)
The Sims 2: Polyamorous Life
The Sims 2: Celibation Stuff
The Sims 2: S&M Fashion Stuff
The Sims 2: Peen Style Stuff
The Sims 2: Kitchen & Bath Intercourse Design Stuff
The Sims 2: FCUK Home Stuff
The Sims 2: Playboy Mansion and Garden of Eden Stuff

The Sims 3: Hard and Soft Stuff
The Sims 3: Fast Lay N' Stuff
The Sims 3: Outdoor Mating Stuff
The Sims 3: Pound Wife Stuff

Guess which EPs and SPs they replace.

wtepicafan 5th Dec 2012 9:18 PM

@WoohooInTheCity lolol thats hilarious

BL00DIEDHELL 5th Dec 2012 9:29 PM

...You just necro'd a thread over a year old.

virgalibabe 5th Dec 2012 11:39 PM

I was so busy laughing I didn't realize this person necro'd the thread. Thank you, I really appreciate it! I remember suggesting a rated M EP back in the day (TS2) over at the BBS and boy did people get their panties up in a bunch. Which I think it's funny because EAXIS always claimed that EPs are standalone and people could pick and choose what they like to add to the game. Especially when we ask them to go that extra mile and interlink some features from different EPs. By that logic a rated M EP ought to be possible.

Rated M doesn't have to be extremely graphic either. It just means it could open up the game for more mature subjects. Smoking, real alcohol and sims actually getting drunk, no silly censors, realistic skins, breast feeding, teen sex (doesn't have to be teen-adult just teen-teen), sexier strippers etc.

eskie227 6th Dec 2012 1:45 AM

Quote: Originally posted by virgalibabe

Rated M doesn't have to be extremely graphic either. It just means it could open up the game for more mature subjects. Smoking, real alcohol and sims actually getting drunk, no silly censors, realistic skins, breast feeding, teen sex (doesn't have to be teen-adult just teen-teen), sexier strippers etc.


All of which our talented creators have already given us. Which is probably for the best. Would you trust EA to create mature subject material without totally screwing it up?

I mean, just look at the "sexy" lingerie that came with Master Suite. It was more Sears, than Victoria's Secret (granted, it was rated T, although it was more like G, not even PG). OTOH, with good custom skins, lots of sliders, and real custom lingerie, you can now take a group of winged fairies and give the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show a run for their money.

virgalibabe 6th Dec 2012 3:23 AM

Quote: Originally posted by eskie227
All of which our talented creators have already given us. Which is probably for the best. Would you trust EA to create mature subject material without totally screwing it up?

I mean, just look at the "sexy" lingerie that came with Master Suite. It was more Sears, than Victoria's Secret (granted, it was rated T, although it was more like G, not even PG). OTOH, with good custom skins, lots of sliders, and real custom lingerie, you can now take a group of winged fairies and give the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show a run for their money.


The talented creators aren't paid to make content, besides whether EA fucks it up or not they would set a nice precedent that EPs can be rated something else than the base-game. since they already "broke all the rules" with the KPST thingamajig whose to say they can't make a special EP pack with more coding and content specifically targeted at a more mature audience?

writerchick 6th Dec 2012 3:32 AM

I've been wondering if this sort of split rating scheme would be possible -- where the game and most of the EP/SPs are rated teen, but then one or more EPs/SPs have a stronger rating. Would parents raise a stink if it turns out the latest EP they purchased for junior is rated "mature"?

Personally, I'd say it's on the parents if they make that mistake, but then, I'm not a parent...

virgalibabe 6th Dec 2012 3:47 AM

Quote: Originally posted by writerchick
I've been wondering if this sort of split rating scheme would be possible -- where the game and most of the EP/SPs are rated teen, but then one or more EPs/SPs have a stronger rating. Would parents raise a stink if it turns out the latest EP they purchased for junior is rated "mature"?

Personally, I'd say it's on the parents if they make that mistake, but then, I'm not a parent...


Well isn't the entire point of the rating system to warn customers about the content of the item they are considering to purchase? Surely if the kid isn't old enough to buy the game himself/herself and the parent sees an M rating a bell oughta ring that this particular expansion isn't suitable for his/her son/daughter.

There are so many games with violence and parents have no problem buying those. I knew plenty of 8 y/o playing GTA for example.

Most gamers are Teens, Y/A and up and there are already free games they can play on the internet that's a lot more graphic than TS3. Sims 3 has a huge amount of adults playing it. Let me remind people of that fact. Especially since the Sims have been around for a while and many of the fans grew up with the game.

Bottom line is still this, what's the point of the rating system if we assume that nobody looks at it before buying the product?

writerchick 6th Dec 2012 4:20 AM

Don't misunderstand, I totally agree with you. I wish we had more adult content in the Sims franchise, because I'd like to have my sims doing more adult things.

And I agree with your point of what's the point of having a rating system if people don't pay attention to the rating when they purchase a game.

To be honest, I'm not really sure why this game is rated Teen, as it seems pretty tame to me. Adult themes? Really? Two sims diving under the blankets and doing stuff under there? Sims don't even have sex, they woohoo. What about that is even remotely too "adult" for little kids to see?

I remember the Looney Tunes cartoons I'd see as a kid or even the sitcoms of the 1960s, which showed adults drinking and smoking, and no one thought anything of any of that. (And for the record, I never smoked and drink very occasionally, so it's not like my seeing that as a kid lead me into a life of debauchery or anything...) I'd say as TS3 is now, it's really no worse (and maybe not even as bad) as a lot of things I was exposed to as a kid...

ButchSims 6th Dec 2012 5:48 AM

While I would love more "adult-themed" content, I don't think EA would ever make a pack like that. Bottom line is, they would lose money. One thing you have to remember is, there are many stores that won't even SELL Mature rated games, regardless of the age of the person buying them. That will hurt their bottom line, and since we all know EA is all about raking in the cash, I can't foresee them doing anything to disrupt that intentionally.

Quote: Originally posted by writerchick

I remember the Looney Tunes cartoons I'd see as a kid or even the sitcoms of the 1960s, which showed adults drinking and smoking, and no one thought anything of any of that. (And for the record, I never smoked and drink very occasionally, so it's not like my seeing that as a kid lead me into a life of debauchery or anything...) I'd say as TS3 is now, it's really no worse (and maybe not even as bad) as a lot of things I was exposed to as a kid...
Back then people thought smoking and drinking were healthy for you, with no harmful side effects. Of course, we know different now. Those same shows showing smoking also had the parents in separate beds, even when Lucy got pregnant.

virgalibabe 6th Dec 2012 6:13 AM

Well I guess you have point. The rating system itself is very flawed either way, it's more arbitrary than not. By the way, stores refusing to sell rated M games is that a common problem in the US? I don't recall it being a problem here at all.

writerchick 6th Dec 2012 9:58 AM

Quote: Originally posted by ButchSims
While I would love more "adult-themed" content, I don't think EA would ever make a pack like that. Bottom line is, they would lose money. One thing you have to remember is, there are many stores that won't even SELL Mature rated games, regardless of the age of the person buying them. That will hurt their bottom line, and since we all know EA is all about raking in the cash, I can't foresee them doing anything to disrupt that intentionally.


I checked Target.com this evening. Three of the five featured video game titles on the site are rated M. (Assassin's Creed 3, Halo 4, and Black Ops whatever.) For the record, they sell those titles in their physical stores, as well. Now maybe you meant that stores won't sell M rated games if the M rating is given for sexual content, but were I a parent, I think I'd object less to sex than I would games where the whole point is to murder as many people as gorily as possible. YMMV...

If I recall correctly, digital downloads now outpace physical disk sales for the Sims.

If an adult pack was only available via digital download, they'd reduce their costs somewhat (no physical disks, boxes, or shipping needed). That's something they're already pushing; so using the "adult" themepack as the excuse to insist on digital download as the sole means of dispersal would further serve their purpose of pushing players toward that model.

Most of the animations would be pretty simple (cmomoney, I think, has already done a smoking mod, so the animation can't be too difficult) to completely unchanged (drinking an alcoholic beverage looks the same as drinking a non-alcoholic one). New clothing meshes aren't too difficult, and if some of them involved partial nudity, well, there's even less to make. As discussed upthread, the bachelor party already exists, so a lot of the dancer's actions simply need to be released from the limits of that party. Add in a few new animations for the dancers to be sexier and more tempting, and voila!

I highly doubt they'd give us the more "interesting" sorts of animations people are wanting, though...

BTW... you're suggesting an adult themepack wouldn't sell as well as the Katy Perry Crap Pack? Really?

The real roadblock here is that the Sims franchise is seen a certain way; how well received would it be if it was suddenly far less "family-friendly," which was the point I was trying to make in my first post.

Quote:
Back then people thought smoking and drinking were healthy for you, with no harmful side effects. Of course, we know different now. Those same shows showing smoking also had the parents in separate beds, even when Lucy got pregnant.


They knew different then, too, as evidenced by the fact that a common slang term for cigarettes was "coffin nails," and that was pre-WWII.

Yes, Madison Avenue ad campaigns may have featured doctors touting the health benefits of cigarettes back in the 1950s, but that doesn't mean anyone really bought into that BS. (Or maybe I should put it like this: the only people who bought it were the delusional ones who wanted to excuse their bad behavior by embracing the lie that it was really healthy, even while they're coughing their lungs out.)

Cigarettes were ubiquitous, but that doesn't mean people believed they were "healthy" at all. They might not have realized just how bad they were, but they knew they caused health problems.

And have you ever seen the 1945 film "The Lost Weekend," about a man who loses an entire weekend while on a drunken bender? Yeah, they knew drinking wasn't healthy.

The difference is that people today have the benefit of understanding due to vast numbers of studies which have been done. People back fifty or more years ago didn't have that benefit, but that doesn't mean they weren't aware those things weren't good for them. They simply weren't aware how bad for them they were or how addictive.

People also knew where babies came from, even if married adult characters slept in adjacent twin beds. (As a kid, I figured they just pushed the beds together when they wanted to be "friendly.")

I realize people like to think they're far more enlightened than previous generations, but those who came before us weren't complete morons...

gemly_teddie 6th Dec 2012 10:41 AM

I can see where both sides of the argument are coming from.

modders have already made a variety of things to make our games more mature, so ea dont really have a need too (though they could make a 'drunk' moodlet, im fairly sure that from a very young age i knew the effects of alcohol, and surely having sims able to drink constantly all day and night at a bar is setting a worse example?) and i can see why they wouldnt want to ruin their image by having a mature sims game under their belt, but i also agree that most children i know play violent games and i cant see why their parents would care that the mature rating was for sexual content instead, id prefer my kids played games with sexual content like 'the sims 3 mature' because if theyre really young they wouldnt discover the content anyway, i remember when i was young i was excited that my character would go to work, and get promotions when i was still at school, i literally only used the 'woohoo' to make babies, because i knew of it purpose, but i didn't know it was also an enjoyable activity...

so basically, young people these days are more desensitised so i dont see how they, or their parents, would bat an eye at an 'm' instead of a 't', especially because they dont change the rating for the uk, where letters mean nothing to us as everything else is rated by age (u, pg, 12, 15 and 18) that goes for americas 'pg 13' movies too, in the uk theyre just 'pg' so you could have a 4 year old watch it if their parents were there...

eskie227 6th Dec 2012 11:36 AM

Quote: Originally posted by gemly_teddie

so basically, young people these days are more desensitised so i dont see how they, or their parents, would bat an eye at an 'm' instead of a 't', especially because they dont change the rating for the uk, where letters mean nothing to us as everything else is rated by age (u, pg, 12, 15 and 18) that goes for americas 'pg 13' movies too, in the uk theyre just 'pg' so you could have a 4 year old watch it if their parents were there...


I the U.S. PG, or even PG 13 is a guideline, Parental Guidance Suggested. Even a 4 year old can go to an R (no one under 17 unless accompanied by an adult) rated movie if accompanied by an adult. And an R rating can be a bit much for a 4 year old.

Quote: Originally posted by Writerchick
If an adult pack was only available via digital download, they'd reduce their costs somewhat (no physical disks, boxes, or shipping needed). That's something they're already pushing; so using the "adult" themepack as the excuse to insist on digital download as the sole means of dispersal would further serve their purpose of pushing players toward that model.


There really is no practical way to ensure purchase by an adult in an online transaction. If some kid checks off their date of birth that exceeds the requirement, they're in business. Unfortunately, there would be a number of parents who would not be happy with their kid's "family friendly" sims game suddenly morph into a strip club with lap dances and "special services" in the private rooms in the rear (just assuming that's how it works, of course).

Even a physical disk in a store, where the buyer can be age verified by a cashier is risky. Imagine a parent used to walking into Walmart and grabbing a copy of a Sims EP off the shelf for their precious little Amy, grabbing a copy of Late, Late Night, bringing it home, and finding little Amy playing the role of Madam. If parents are used to a game being age appropriate, it is reasonable to expect them to simply grab the latest EP off the shelf, without even checking the rating. It's the Sims, after all.

pico22 6th Dec 2012 12:53 PM

Quote: Originally posted by eskie227
Even a 4 year old can go to an R (no one under 17 unless accompanied by an adult) rated movie if accompanied by an adult.

If that is the law, paedophiles must be ecstatic about it.

As for the main theme of this thread: I played TS(1) base game on a borrowed PC for a while (I can't play it on my machine) and I was really surprised when my Sim couple kissed and, BANG, a baby appeared - I totally forgot that and also the fact that "woohoo" was not possible at that stage at all. However, as far as I am concerned this is the way to do it: if you want to cover things up, cover them up to the bitter end. (And leave behind a ton of kids who absolutely refuse to be kissed by anybody.) Or don't cover them at all; make them available and let the user decide about them the same way as he may decide about the weather. The middle way, the typical Eaxis way, always proves to be the worst.

ButchSims 6th Dec 2012 1:08 PM

Quote: Originally posted by writerchick
I checked Target.com this evening. Three of the five featured video game titles on the site are rated M. (Assassin's Creed 3, Halo 4, and Black Ops whatever.) For the record, they sell those titles in their physical stores, as well. Now maybe you meant that stores won't sell M rated games if the M rating is given for sexual content, but were I a parent, I think I'd object less to sex than I would games where the whole point is to murder as many people as gorily as possible. YMMV...

If I recall correctly, digital downloads now outpace physical disk sales for the Sims.


No, I meant that certain stores don't sell ANY game with a mature rating. As in, they don't even stock it on shelves. I've worked in the gaming retail industry, and that is standard practice for a lot of stores, Target notwithstanding.

Also, different countries have different rules regarding content. There are many games that have to edit out certain content if they want the game to be sold in their countries. Some even ban them outright. It's a sticky situation.

And yes, I think it would sell less than the craptacular Katy Perry. Just because you and I have more enlightened attitudes towards adult content doesn't mean that the majority of simmers do. And while you may be more concerned with gore and violence over nudity, many other parents would raise a stink. EA would avoid it like a plague. I'm not saying that there isn't a market for it, I'm just saying I don't think EA would make an "official" pack dedicated to it.

virgalibabe 6th Dec 2012 1:37 PM

Quote: Originally posted by ButchSims
No, I meant that certain stores don't sell ANY game with a mature rating. As in, they don't even stock it on shelves. I've worked in the gaming retail industry, and that is standard practice for a lot of stores, Target notwithstanding.

Also, different countries have different rules regarding content. There are many games that have to edit out certain content if they want the game to be sold in their countries. Some even ban them outright. It's a sticky situation.

And yes, I think it would sell less than the craptacular Katy Perry. Just because you and I have more enlightened attitudes towards adult content doesn't mean that the majority of simmers do. And while you may be more concerned with gore and violence over nudity, many other parents would raise a stink. EA would avoid it like a plague. I'm not saying that there isn't a market for it, I'm just saying I don't think EA would make an "official" pack dedicated to it.


Yes, but is that mainly an American issue? Cause last time I checked there are billions of people in the rest of the world and EA could rake up some nice profits from the more "progressive" countries. Not all countries are as sensitive about sex as the US. I know from experience talking to many parents about what their 11 y/o and up play.

There are plenty of households where it's totally normal for 8 y/o to play GTA and know about the sex cheats. Often if the parents don't make a big deal about something, neither will the kids which if not completely retarded know the difference between entertainment and real life.

If they market it as a digital download only, I think it would go over pretty well. The main problem here is indeed "image". That and they are so craving for money that they wouldn't want to pass up their time and resources creating a product that's not targeted at "everybody".

hugbug993 6th Dec 2012 3:19 PM

Quote: Originally posted by ButchSims
Back then people thought smoking and drinking were healthy for you, with no harmful side effects. Of course, we know different now. Those same shows showing smoking also had the parents in separate beds, even when Lucy got pregnant.


Assuming that you're talking about I Love Lucy, there was actually a huge controversy over the fact that Lucy and Ricardo slept in a single bed without one of their legs on the floor.

And I'll agree with you on the smoking, but not the drinking. The US went through a whole period where people decided that they needed to edit the bible because Jesus drank wine. Not to mention attempts to scar children for life while they watched the effects of a baby elephant drinking. Meanwhile, Fred Flintstone is talking about how great cigarettes are, despite The Flintstones doing a Very Special Episode on the effects of drug use that was only slightly less awkward than the Winnie The Pooh: Too Smart For Strangers special.

Anyway, I agree that EA probably wouldn't pull off a Sexy Sims Expansion Pack very well. This is the same programming team that thinks that dancing with a sim at your prom makes you obligated not to flirt with anyone else. Their idea of "sexy" would probably be sticking a foot out from under the covers during WooHoo. If there were more custom animations for TS3, I would stick with that.

tizerist 6th Dec 2012 5:11 PM

You can have a decent attempt at this using current tools, but I haven't tried it.
You can make a dance club with small dance mats under thin circular columns (stripping-pole) on a stage.
You can use the 'role sim' mod
http://mysims3blog.blogspot.co.uk/2...y-misukisu.html
to have a stripper start work at a certain time, wearing whatever clothes are chosen as a work uniform.
Place the 'role sim' object near the strip pole. Give the stripper traits which would encourage them to dance, and generally act flirty.
I think Inge has an item or two which would work well with this, like the OFB object and transparent floors.

You can do most of the work now.

writerchick 6th Dec 2012 11:38 PM

Quote: Originally posted by ButchSims
No, I meant that certain stores don't sell ANY game with a mature rating. As in, they don't even stock it on shelves. I've worked in the gaming retail industry, and that is standard practice for a lot of stores, Target notwithstanding.


Just checked Walmart, BestBuy, and Gamestop -- they all carry rated M games, too. Several of those games are featured titles on the sites I checked, so I'd hazard a guess that they're also among their best sellers. For the non-US readers, the four retailers I've listed are probably about 80 to 90% of the US retail market for video games. Maybe some mom-and-pop stores don't carry M rated games, but it hardly would make a dent in total sales.

When it comes to weighing profits versus morality, profits always win.

eskie227 7th Dec 2012 12:55 AM

Quote: Originally posted by writerchick
Just checked Walmart, BestBuy, and Gamestop -- they all carry rated M games, too. Several of those games are featured titles on the sites I checked, so I'd hazard a guess that they're also among their best sellers. For the non-US readers, the four retailers I've listed are probably about 80 to 90% of the US retail market for video games. Maybe some mom-and-pop stores don't carry M rated games, but it hardly would make a dent in total sales.

When it comes to weighing profits versus morality, profits always win.


That's OK. Walmart has refused to sell music CDs that have a Parental Advisory label on them. And while most purchases of music are online these days, Walmart still does sell lots of CDs. So imagining a large chain refusing to sell a "Sexy Sims" EP is not so farfetched.

Volvenom 7th Dec 2012 1:31 AM

Changing from teen rating to adult may not be that easy. Parents will happily sue EA for selling them a product for adults in a product line going several years back only for teens. The fact that they should have been reading the label may not be enough. The impression I have from the US, sex is regarded as more dangerous (if I can use that word) for the teenage mind than violence. In Europe it tends to be opposite.

The world is bigger than only US or Europe though. Lots of countries in the world may ban this exp all together, like Arab countries and many countries in Asia. Digital download may not be realistic either for reasons already mentioned. They can't know for sure what age I am, and if I old enough I still don't want them to know. Many countries may not like EA having that kind of information about their customer at all. The information people give at registration have to be enough, or it will end up in shops.

I don't think EA cares a dot about what the community is doing unless it benefit themselfes. What modders do is irrelevant to them. Many consumers don't download mods either.

virgalibabe 7th Dec 2012 2:40 AM

Quote: Originally posted by eskie227
That's OK. Walmart has refused to sell music CDs that have a Parental Advisory label on them. And while most purchases of music are online these days, Walmart still does sell lots of CDs. So imagining a large chain refusing to sell a "Sexy Sims" EP is not so farfetched.


Still that would be an American chain. Either way this is all wishful thinking. We have a better chance at having a rated M spin-off that will be full of bugs and will only be supported for about 4 months than them actually breaking the patter with a special EP. I use the word "chance" very loosely in this case. lol

douglasveiga 7th Dec 2012 3:37 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Celebriton
I remember someone try to make a stripper mod, where sims using " LN dance on the table", attract visitors to watch and earn money.

But he never publish it. Too bad.


i am not sure, but i think it was me. i created and uploaded here a similar mod to request the bachelor party dancer service (from Generations), but i discontinued because i don't have the generations ep anymore.

High Plains Gamer 7th Dec 2012 7:20 PM

Walmart has loosened up on its policy. Just a few years ago, you would find Britney Spears' "If You Seek Amy" just a few isles down from the family friendly Sims game. Maybe the suits just did not get the wordplay in Spears' song title? (It's an old joke, going back to Jame Joyce's Ulysses.)

The people making these rules are not the sharpest knives in the drawer.

Periandre 7th Dec 2012 11:54 PM

But EA only goes for the mass money. If they were willing to produce things that would sell, and sell well, but not to everyone -- they'd support their own EPs. Most of us, I think would buy new late night bars and elevators, new spiral stairs... a more modern alchemy station... but everyone doesn't have the necessary EPs. So it doesn't happen. Everyone is not of age, or interested in a mature EP. So, again, it doesn't happen.

Celebriton 8th Dec 2012 5:34 PM

M rating is a joke.......the developer actually made for T rating. They purposely change it to M for marketing stuff. Well, you know, teenagers are exciting if it had M rating.

For a real M rating game, they should have more matured, darker and more serious story. Including the use of mature stuff as a common part of the game.

High Plains Gamer 8th Dec 2012 5:46 PM

Of course, why would a strip club merit a mature rating? How is this "adult" material?

We see strip clubs all the time in prime time television shows. They are real common on cop shows. On the television show, The Supranos, the gangsters worked out of a stip club (the Bada Bing). (Oh why, oh why, does the criminal career have to be based out of a warehouse?) The truth of the matter is there is far more disturbing stuff on these shows than a strip club with girls wearing bikinis.

While this is a necroed thread, these simply is more content in the sims to work with. We got strippers in Generations -- so that line was crossed a long time ago. New animations exist. It would be a good project for someone (else) to do.

tizerist 8th Dec 2012 8:28 PM

This is the sort of thing Pandorasims is good at. They made all manner of cool pervy stuff in TS2.
I forgot about those Gen strippers. I've never seen them.
I must admit, I miss my adult anims as much as OFB.

eskie227 8th Dec 2012 10:43 PM

Quote: Originally posted by High Plains Gamer
Of course, why would a strip club merit a mature rating? How is this "adult" material?

We see strip clubs all the time in prime time television shows. They are real common on cop shows. On the television show, The Supranos, the gangsters worked out of a stip club (the Bada Bing). (Oh why, oh why, does the criminal career have to be based out of a warehouse?) The truth of the matter is there is far more disturbing stuff on these shows than a strip club with girls wearing bikinis.

While this is a necroed thread, these simply is more content in the sims to work with. We got strippers in Generations -- so that line was crossed a long time ago. New animations exist. It would be a good project for someone (else) to do.


Just remember, The Sopranos was on HBO, not OTA network TV, and it did carry an M rating (and not just for the strip club, where they were not wearing bikinis).

ButchSims 9th Dec 2012 12:18 AM

Quote: Originally posted by High Plains Gamer
Of course, why would a strip club merit a mature rating? How is this "adult" material?

We see strip clubs all the time in prime time television shows. They are real common on cop shows. On the television show, The Supranos, the gangsters worked out of a stip club (the Bada Bing). (Oh why, oh why, does the criminal career have to be based out of a warehouse?) The truth of the matter is there is far more disturbing stuff on these shows than a strip club with girls wearing bikinis.

Because, unlike TV shows, many strip clubs don't stop at just a bikini.

High Plains Gamer 10th Dec 2012 11:18 PM

Quote: Originally posted by ButchSims
Because, unlike TV shows, many strip clubs don't stop at just a bikini.


I lived in Alaska. I know about strip clubs. They probably are more prolific there than in Florida.

A lot of strip clubs are bikini clubs, and this is about the most we could hope for from EA. But I doubt it.

The clubs which go beyond bikinis usually have significant problems with both the law and the community. Although if we had the bikini clubs, going beyond that should not be a big deal.

eskie227 11th Dec 2012 3:04 AM

Quote: Originally posted by High Plains Gamer
I lived in Alaska. I know about strip clubs. They probably are more prolific there than in Florida.

A lot of strip clubs are bikini clubs, and this is about the most we could hope for from EA. But I doubt it.

The clubs which go beyond bikinis usually have significant problems with both the law and the community. Although if we had the bikini clubs, going beyond that should not be a big deal.


So most strip clubs in Alaska are bikini clubs? I mean, I know it's cold, but I'm not sure the bikini is really enough to help out, so why bother?

ladyluxe 15th Dec 2012 5:42 AM

just download the stripper mod from artisan sims, then download some sexy lingerie/swimsuits.

Hot Stuff 17th Dec 2012 1:23 AM

The necro was worth it just for the laugh.

Shitomi 23rd Dec 2012 10:00 PM

A lot of Japanese 3D hentai games for this... no need to spend your time on modding

Nemiga 26th Dec 2012 11:32 AM

A few months earlier,I try to make a functional stript pole using umpa stript pole dance animations and Puss 'N Heels exotic pole....but shit happens,cuz I'm not programmer.I quit from this project.
People who can make scripts easy do that,but no one goes on this idea.sad


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