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Original Poster
#26 Old 5th Aug 2010 at 8:23 PM
Quote: Originally posted by aeval99
OTOH, I love RPG's, so additions like Opportunities (quests) and the Seamless hood (open world) make me froth at the mouth.

I'm very happy for you that you love those features! And it also points out to me that no two Simmers are alike. I actually am kind of sad that they are taking the game more in a direction of goal based gameplay, as I feel it hampers the freedom of the sandbox a bit. (In Bon Voyage we could make our own world. In WA we couldn't, I'm guessing because it would be deemed "too hard" to actually make missions spawn from scratch in a user made world.)

I do liked the mini-games in TS2 once in a while, but mostly I used it for telling stories, and TS2 was just so good for that. Especially if you rotated households a lot. But I've been struggling with TS3 to tell interesting stories as you're either limited to one household, and if you do switch, Story Progression does all kind of weird stuff. I know, I can turn it off, maybe I should try that next time .

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Field Researcher
#27 Old 5th Aug 2010 at 8:55 PM
I play both TS3 and TS2 its pro's and con's with both games they bring something different.
Lab Assistant
#28 Old 5th Aug 2010 at 9:45 PM
For some reason I felt like I had a lot more things to do in TS2. I think that's just because there were so many more expansion packs, so I was making all these different kinds of supernatural sims and stuff, and trying all sorts of challenges and trying to run my businesses. I definitely liked the animations better in TS2, and all the different kinds of interactions. It was really nice how each interaction had a different animation - to me it was a lot more visually appealing. Also I miss all the different kinds of custom content I had. I know TS3 is a lot more realistic in terms of sims - they can really throw me for a loop sometimes with how human they look. Sometimes I prefer this style but sometimes I prefer the "plastic" look of TS2. I dunno, I really like how some of my sims look (CC definitely helps with that). I also really miss the genetics system from TS2.
For me the best part of TS3 is the open neighborhood. It's easy to visit the gym, and it's really fun visiting the library and seeing all the different book. I love how they have individual books now and not just the trashy maid book, and how you can write books and actually read them at the library! This just isn't possible without the open neighborhood (well, maybe it would be, but i don't htink it would be as fun). I like seeing them bike down to places, and stuff. I also definitely love the traits system.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that there's good parts of both games. I don't think my computer can handle both being installed htough, and TS2 is installed on my old computer so it's a bit troublesome to play. I'd definitely like to go back and try it again someday, though. Heck, I even have TS1 on it, and it's great! To me there's a lot more "charm" in the first two Sims, but TS3 is fun too. I think it'll get better when there's more expansions out.
Test Subject
#29 Old 6th Aug 2010 at 12:05 AM
I don't.
Lab Assistant
#30 Old 6th Aug 2010 at 12:43 AM
I agree with Kaospilot, there is a charm and quirkiness about TS2 that TS3 just does not have. I played TS3 for a while after I installed it, and I found gameplay sort of...rigid, I suppose, in spite of the open neighbourhoods and all. I also cannot seem to endear the Sims themselves; I think it is because I liked the fact that TS2 Sims were a bit crazy. TS3 is well suited to some player's styles, but I am all about my Sims and socialising, and socialising in TS3 is a little too stiff for me. I miss male pregnancy, the humour, and the cute interactions and all the little quirks that make TS2 great. The loading screens never bother me now. I play TS2 much, much more than TS2.

Not that I have completely given up on TS3, I just hope some later EP's make it more exciting to play. Also, the amount of trouble I have had with the game since I bought it makes me wonder if it is worth the effort. I really wanted to give it a chance, but the glitches and constant failings to load for no reason make me lose heart. I would much rather be playing TS2 than trying to force this game to work.
Fat Obstreperous Jerk
#31 Old 6th Aug 2010 at 12:45 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Wojtek
I play the Sims 3 all the time. I re-installed the Sims 2 because I want to continue creating my comics. The Sims 2 is ideal for movie making and story telling.
Truth. Much of the game in TS2 has been beaten to death, but TS3 just remains manifestly unsuitable for stories.

Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I cannot accept, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those I had to kill because they pissed me off.
Scholar
#32 Old 6th Aug 2010 at 12:51 AM
No.......
Scholar
#33 Old 6th Aug 2010 at 1:14 AM
I have to admit that I got bored with Sims 3 fairly quickly and didn't care for it much at all. However, I didn't uninstall it, even though I went back to playing Sims 1 and 2 for several months after WA came out and I installed it. I love the open neighborhood, the graphics are gorgeous but I just couldn't get into it, which bummed me out in a big way. I finally broke down and got HELS and Ambitions couple of weeks ago and tried it again...and I'm really enjoying it now, and I'm looking forward to the next EP. Sims 1 and 2 are still on my "playlist"...like someone above me said, "I gotta have my fix of Makin' Magic"...and I never get tired of Sims 2, even with all the load screens (gives me time to go get a cup of tea).

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Lab Assistant
#34 Old 6th Aug 2010 at 1:20 AM
After a week of playing Sims 3 I sold all my Sims2 games as I couldn't imangine going back to it. I tend to play rather than create buildings, stories etc and have found Sims3 more fun and easy to play, especially without cheats.
I do really miss being able to go out on dates though and I hope that comes back with Late Night. I have to admit though that if I play Sims3 too often, I tend not to play for a month or so. BUt I think that can happen with any game really. Too much of a good thing and all that.

So no I don't play Sims 2 anymore.
Test Subject
#35 Old 6th Aug 2010 at 2:25 AM
I think I'll stick with Sims 3. Sims 2 is better, truthfully. But the Sims 3 has so much potential and with EA banging out EPs, no way am I stabbing my computer in it's already half-dead heart by re-installing my Sims 2 EPs. The open world and endless posibilites in Sims 3 is just so..amazing. The personalities are simply genious. I love it when an evil sim breaks out in manical laughter after a stack of money in a thought bubble appears in her head, or a snob turns up her nose, or a handy sims throwing a wrench up in the air and mean mugging the closests sim. Also, I'm on a Mac so anything past Bon Voyage isn't installable for me, which means FT and AL are out of the question, and IMO those were the most awesome looking EPs. That being said, the Sims 2 memories keep gnawing away at me, making me reach for the CDs. If the Sims 3 incorporates that, I'll definatley jump on the Sims 3 wagon and declare it just as good, if not better.

.........But trust me. Counting on the fact I'm upgrading my 1GB RAM Mac to 4 gigs, most likely I'll install TS2 again and see how well it runs.
Test Subject
#36 Old 6th Aug 2010 at 2:51 AM
I don't play the Sims 2 anymore (though I did, in fact, try.. too many difficulties resulting from a botched uninstallment earlier and losing my Seasons key code). The seam-less neighborhood really changes things for me. Pudding is better than the base Sims 2 faces and skins, in my opinion.

However, I do think I am the only person that plays the original The Sims every now and then.
Test Subject
#37 Old 6th Aug 2010 at 3:50 AM
Actually yes.
A while back, when it first came out, I got The Sims 3: Ambitions. I tried playing but on my Macbook Pro because it has to use Cider or whatever it is to load up Sims 3 it takes forever. It's quite laggy and gah, I just don't like it.

So after that, I actually reordered all my Sims 2 games, I had Sims 2 but they were the PC versions, and so now I have all the Sims 2 expansions, that are offered for Macs, and I love it more than the Sims 3.

I like the design, and features of the Sims 3 but it's just too slow to run on Mac OS X. I don't know why it's like this for me, considering I have a lot of space left over as well as very minimal custom content, but it is indeed slow. And it really makes my fans run and gets my computer hot, so that's annoying as well.

Like posts before mine, I'd prefer a Sims 2 with an open neighbourhood.

But until I either get a version of Windows, a Windows computer, or a faster Mac, don't expect to see me on Sims 3.

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Scholar
#38 Old 6th Aug 2010 at 3:53 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Kaospilot
Anyway, I still play TS1 just for good old times and memories of being young and the biggest care in the world was having to go to school the next day.It's fun with all the very weird but funny things Actually, the only thing that annoys me with TS1 is the 4 camera angles (not being free to rotate as you wish) It just has something that TS2/3 is lacking. So it's keeping it's charm!

I agree. I don't notice much of a difference with the atmosphere or humour from 2 to 3, but neither of them have that "something" that Sims 1 had.

And as I said earlier in the thread. I still play Sims 1 from time to time. In fact, I'd given a few of the packs away to a friend's daughter when Sims 2 came out, so I ended up buying them again for a couple of bucks on Amazon marketplace.

...and stop making me feel old! I was in my 30s when the original Sims came out.
Scholar
#39 Old 6th Aug 2010 at 5:09 AM
The "something" that Sims 1 had was "atmosphere" in the EPs...and it was campy and funny. I still play it, as well as 2 and 3. They're just different games even though they're all still the Sims.

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Test Subject
#40 Old 6th Aug 2010 at 5:12 AM
I like to play both off and on. Since work and school distract me for most of the time, which ever game that is handy when I get a chance usually gets played. I still have a prosperity challenge going on from like two years ago that I'm slowly working on, along with a legacy in both games, so I try to balance out the game playing time between the two.

I would absolutely LOVE to go back to the original game, but I've had so many problems with it in the past that I don't know if I can. I still have all the CDs and since I was so young when I played TS1, I didn't really check EVERYTHING out in detail :/
Theorist
#41 Old 6th Aug 2010 at 5:17 AM
I never really got to play TS1 in detail either... I believe I was 9 or so when i got the original game and I had a lot of computer issues so I switched to TS2 pretty quickly... My memories of the original game are "OMG THIS IS SO HARD! They're starving and he won't get a job cause his mood is too low and they have no money because I just bought a new fishtank!!!! Ooh look the Goth seniors are rich I'll go play them now....."

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Mad Poster
#42 Old 6th Aug 2010 at 6:07 AM
When I first started hearing about TS3 I didn't really want it, because I was so much in love with TS2. But more and more I started liking what I was seeing, so when it came out, I brought it and un-installed TS2 after the first play session. I was a bit heartbroken for the Sims I had, because I was really liking the stories I had going on, but even with all EP's for TS2 I felt it couldn't match the fun I was having in TS3 which was just the base game.

Some people say they don't like TS3 because they can't get attached to the characters, for me I'm more in love and attached to my TS3 characters than I ever was attached to TS2 Sims. The Sims themselves are just so more in depth, individual and quirky than TS2 Sims (their quirkiness might bot be as exaggeratedly animated as it was in TS2 but it's still there). The open neighbourhood brings so much more possibilities and fun into the game than having static lots. My legacy generation 6 for example, her parents died in a fire when she had her teen birthday, her LTW is to have the perfect aquarium. In my head she meant by the perfect aquarium that she wanted to finish up her dad's photograph collection of all the people he killed, so my girl spent night after night stalking her victims until she got the opportunity to kill them without having any witnesses around. In TS2 you couldn't do this, a community lot was never empty, so your only option was to invite the people over and then kill them. Now that if anything is limiting game play. Or just playing loving parents, you feel the love between the Sim's much heavily than you could in TS2. I love asking my kids about their day than just general chatting, or talking about the game or a book or a friend, instead of queuing the same chat interaction four times in a row. I know the end result is pretty much the same, gain relationship points, but the Sim's reactions are not. Yesterday I was playing with my inventor and thinking how amazing the game is, I never had that much fun with a toy bench, or the robots that came from it. Skilling is no longer the same linear path it was in TS2. You could max a skill in both games, but in TS2 you couldn't master it the same way you can in TS3. You could have a storyline about a painter and a rock star, but in the end what made them different as the rock star could easily paint a masterpiece as well as the painter could rock the club even if he had never seen a guitar or a drum kit in his life. Now you can have a rock star who can give out autographs, and who has mastered his skill by learning different songs. He can get teen girls all exited by his rock star status, or go and have a concert, in TS2 being a rockstar was just a lable in your job description, but nothing really set you apart from a doctor, or a laywer or a teacher. When we get more instruments, your drummer is going to be an important member of the group because he has practiced drumming, so you cant replace him with just anybody who has a few general creativity points.

When it comes to the looks of the Sim's, just the day before I was reading a very good TS2 story, but then when I saw the pictures, my first reaction was "God, somebody please slap some CC on these people", they were the default Pleasant view characters, and at least looking at them now, is not an enjoyable experience. Pudding face is not pretty either, but that was mostly a base game problem. The first thing I did when I got TS3 was create my legacy founder, and there was no pudding to be seen in him (or at least I fail to see it) even thou I suck at making Sims. I'm also not a builder. I have built a few shops and houses for my Sim's but 90% of my simming time is spent playing, so the game play aspect is the most important thing for me, than CAST or CAW. CAST is great thou, as most of my CC in TS2 was hair, makeup and furniture recolours. I still remember my first day playing TS2 and my disappointments. For example I was really exited about hair and makeup, but specially when I tried the base game make-up for the first time, my reaction was extreme disappointment due to how ugly and blah the makeup was.

The open-neighbourhood is amazing. Knowing where my Sim's workplace is physically situated, beats not knowing anything at all. I love sending my Sims on a jog and following them while running, instead of sending them on a rabbit hole jog and catching up with them two hours later when returning home. The same with rebellious teens. Breaking curfew in the local bar dancing, is much more satisfactory to me than sending them on a rabbit hole sneak out with a friend, same with traveling abroad. Actually going to a monument and taking a picture there, beats rabbit hole tours, going to the forest and picking up that bug or just putting my tent on the gournd, eating an apple then going to sleep beats having the game tell me I went on a nature walk.

Do I miss some aspects of TS2 like clothe shopping, wedding arch, Mary-mac, open restaurants or more insane getting caught cheating situations? yes I do, but not enough to downgrade my gaming experience or the amount of fun I'm having with TS3.
Theorist
#43 Old 6th Aug 2010 at 9:21 AM
To be fair, I have TS3 alone and TS2 with all expansions and some stuff packs. It is a fact to me that TS2 outshines its own child in this situation. Today my sim rode his evil broom to his business and, thanks to a mod that allowed skill-ups for sims on community lots, he imparted charisma to his employee. He worked the DJ booth for awhile until he noticed some new person eyeing him with disapproval. This sim, Amin Sims, then got into the jacuzzi naked, freaking out the other customers. Out came the magic wand casting Spiritus Poultrious, and the Amin mindlessly degenerated into a chicken while everyone laughed at him. But he wasn't ready to leave, so my sim used his reputation to peer pressure someone into fighting Amin. This sim poked Amin in the chest and Amin cried and left soon. By now, Janine(?) Picasso was tired working so my sim sent her home. He then got into his Action Traveler's Action Tent and slept while the business ran itself, attracting customers, and generating money through a ticket machine.

^The above read intends to illustrate a taste of the options and situations TS2 ( with expansions ) has keeping it alive. TS3 still needs more to rekindle my interest in playing the game for the game, not just for building. But I'm counting on Late Night to tempt me, but it will be tough with its medieval competition.
Test Subject
#44 Old 6th Aug 2010 at 11:06 AM
I have removed the sims 3 from my computer and i just play the sims 2
Lab Assistant
#45 Old 6th Aug 2010 at 12:09 PM
Lol seriously how many threads are there of Sims 2 vs Sims 3 on the internet? Anyways, for me I went back to Sims 2 with a bigger appreciation for its charm after playing Sims 3. My biggest problem with Sims 3 is that I can't get attached to the sims in Sims 3. I've tried making a self sim, an extremely hideous sim, a sim with all the worst traits possible (all which I've never need to do in Sims 2) just to see if they could alleviate my boredom with the game, but nope, don't care for them at all. So much that I don't even bother making a house.. just a bed on the lawn and a toilet against a single wall is enough for you! It's like they're just a vessel to do something be it gardening or exploring the neighbourhood. The funny thing is I used to balk at Sims 2 pictures decipting beds on a lawn. I used to think "how could you let your sims sleep outside??" In sims 2, I love them the moment they step out from the taxi lol. I don't even need a story for me to love them, their story will come later as I play.

From my lack of affection for the sims, I guess all the other features that were supposed to be an improvement in Sims 3 doesn't mean much anymore. What good is the more advanced building and colouring tool if I don't have a sim that I like enough to want to build a house for her/him? Also, I don't like customizing sims to every single detail; I'd rather play dress up (it's more like shopping with clothes in different colours and seeing which clothes look good). So I actually think Sims 2 CAS is funner than Sims 3 CAST. Add that to the fact that I find collecting pixel rocks or gaining skills/money/challenges pointless, there really isn't anything much for me to do in Sims 3. tl;dr all the things I love to do in Sims 2 has become too OCD, tedious or pointless in Sims 3. But ultimately it depends on how you play.

IMO the types of treads made in the forums are quite telling of the types of players that play each game. The sims 2 forum is full of stories of the sims themselves like a proud grandparent rambling to a stranger about their grandkids - full of affection even when complaining, while the sims 3 forum is full of, um, everything else but their sims. I mean I still keep Sims 3 on my computer when I want a quick game that loads in 2 minutes, but Sims 3 is the kind of game I play when I've bored of all the other games, while Sims 2 is the game I truly love.
Banned
#46 Old 6th Aug 2010 at 12:18 PM
No, I do not plays Sims 2 anymore.
Lab Assistant
#47 Old 6th Aug 2010 at 12:31 PM
@ Kaospilot, I'm sure there are Sims 3 players who love their game. I was just making a point that they both are enjoyed best in very different ways. Unless someone already plays in a goal oriented way in sims 2 then they'll have no trouble adapting to sims 3.
Lab Assistant
#48 Old 6th Aug 2010 at 12:33 PM
I actually installed sims 2 + NL + OFB a few days ago, on an older laptop. I'd been getting a bit bored with sims 3 for a while and am absolutely loving sims 2 ( open for business especially ) Even though the neighbourhood isn't open, it feels so much more alive, with shops, businesses, restaraunts all over town. This is what sims 3 is missing for me

I've got over the lack of Create a style by retexturing objects, which barely takes a few minutes for most of them.

with cheats you can free place and diagonally rotate objects ( I actually never knew this the last time sims 2 was installed )

So all in all I'm not missing a ton from sims 3
Instructor
#49 Old 6th Aug 2010 at 12:43 PM
Haven't played much TS2 since TS3 came out. In particular I haven't played TS2 since CAW was released. For me Sims 3 is a much easier to get into game. I loved Sims 2 like you wouldn't believe but Sims 3 is just more dependable. It's like your first big love that you always had huge rows with and would sometimes not speak to for weeks at a time only to come back to with profuse apologies and on the other hand is the person you just clicked with and married. You'll always have the fond, and not so fond, memories but the one you are with can't be substituted.
And now that I wrote that it's seems a tad bit creepy.
Forum Resident
#50 Old 6th Aug 2010 at 12:56 PM
I love them both equally tbh.. . . . When I play Sims 3 I have all the things like Create A Style, CAW, Open-ended world and so on. But when I play Sims 2, I have all the things the expansions brought to the game, storytelling, and even memories. When I get bored of Sims 3, I usually play Sims 2, and back to Sims 3 agan I just cant wait for all the things future expansions will bring to the game, but I miss the simle features of Sims 2 like the storytelling, memories and better machinima making. So if I want to make a machinima, I would make it with Sims 2. Both I really do love them equally, and I wish people would stop bashing Sims 3 of being boring, they really need to wait until more expansions come out.


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