FYI I had the modified a Simsville world to a city version and of course had the unmodified version as a backup. I played a new version of the town as a "wolfrun" and let it run for 1 1/2 hours at 3 speed with no problems as a simulator. I then played a saved game and actural family vs "wolfrun" of the same town and that's when I got the school problem.

To clarify when it got close to their time to attend it would tell me the school was not in session and to attend in X hours and then the next day when it got close and no school bus arrived I clicked to have them attend and got the same message school was not in session.

When I used the unmodified version of the town with the same saved game they were able to attend.

That's interesting; I'll take a look into this when I get chance. Thanks for letting me know!

Back from testing. Imported the city tag into the food truck and the parking space, added like 20 parking in sunset park and one food truck in front of the science building just in case... Nothing happened. Yeah stupid ideas gives stupid results Meh, at least there's a good thing from the test: having the city tag injected in items doesn't seem to break anything, world works correctly and no borks appeared.

yeabil - Ehehehe wolfrun. Creatures player too, huh? :D

any chance of recovering the description?

I guess we should cooperate 'til this AWESOME mod will work at 100%

Hehe, you have both volunteered to help! Let me know when you've figured it out.

So far I've found the byte which is responsible for the City flag and those which are responsible for the traffic.

As you can see in my previous images there is a difference between 0x296A6258 in a city:


And 0x296A6258 in a suburb:


If you number the bytes from left to right, like this:
Byte... 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09
City.... 01 00 D7 E3 FF 09 02 00 00 00
Suburb 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

Then Bytes 02 to 05 flag the traffic and somehow block the WDDT, whereas byte 06 actually flags the world as a city.

So, if you change 0x296A6258 to 01 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 then you get a city with a world description but no city traffic; if you change it to 01 00 D7 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 (or any combination of bytes 02 to 05 with byte 06) you get a city with city traffic but no world description. Using bytes 02 to 05 without byte 06 seems to do nothing but block the world description, although I did get an initial short burst of city traffic.

Next tests would be to change the values of the bytes, although that could be a lengthy process of trial and error. If anyone has any ideas or input, I'd love to hear!

Does your use of 'city traffic' also refer to the food truck behaviour or is more testing needed there to decide?

I haven't had chance to test that yet, Menaceman- feel free to test it yourself!

how you could modify the script using S3PE?
you could put it modified to download for me to test?

The traffic is not very important.

You can just modify it yourself in S3Pe, to test for me if you like.

Just download from my first post and open in S3Pe, and you should be able to figure it out from my pictures. You'll need a hex editor, I used this one:
http://www.chmaas.handshake.de/delp...xvi32/xvi32.htm
And associate it with S3PE in settings> External Programs.

Thank you! :D

Cheers Theabf- let us know if you make any discoveries! Specifically I'm trying to prevent this from killing the description of the custom worlds.

I changed only the sixth byte of the suburb script to 02 before to finish world in the CAW.

It did not break the description nor the traffic.

Do I not know yet about the food's car, I have to test.

I'm being too much of a perfectionist about my world to have tried any of this yet. It doesn't even have any residential lots yet.

Theabf- that's what I found too- byte 06 is the only one that actually gives the world a city icon in the world selection screen.


Hehe, c'mon Menaceman, you're good with CC stuff so I'd really appreciate your input on this. You don't have to use a world that you value- any ole' downloaded world will do. The more people that look at this the better chance of figuring it out, and I'm sure you know more about the game than I do.

You're doing a great job... I've tryed but I made lots of mistakes XD!! So I chose to slow down the creation of my world until this will fully work ...

Okay so I finally did a little bit of testing.
I altered the resource to 01 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 for a custom world that I had downloaded a while ago and already had a save file with. I loaded it up and placed around 18 food truck spaces and about 8 food trucks. I then ran the game for 24 Sim hours.
My results are thus:
The save file was tagged as a city. City taxis began driving around town immediately and all but one food truck drove off around town. Despite having placed 8 trucks I could only find two driving around at any one time although I do use AwesomeMod so I dunno if that limits the number of trucks or if there is a built in limit anyway. The trucks DID stop and park on other lots and I even saw a townie autonomously and successfully order food from one.
I didn't notice any new ambient sounds other than that of the city taxis. Why is it they sound like wind up toys rather than the regular taxis?

Have you tried to REPLACE the file of the world with the one of Bridgeport? I mean delete all the keys of the file then import the ones of Bridgeport...

Wow, that's great Menaceman! It's different from what I noticed in my custom world- if I set the resource to 01 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 then I wasn't noticing any of the fake taxis, so I'll try again in another world. If the city is getting the traffic and the city status, plus food trucks and the original World description, then that will be what we need to test with for a while. Good work!

LS_Bari, thanks for your nice comments! Yes, I tried importing the Bridgeport resources into a custom world, that resulted in the WDDT being broken, as mentioned in my first posts.

Fantastic work tech-minded simmers! I'm really impressed watching you all work this out.

Cheers, Kiwi_tea!

I hope you know that by replying in this thread you're automatically recruited to the research team, right?

I have a total of 0% experience modding. Only just getting my head around the tools. The amount of damage I could do trying to test files scares me. But if I get time between prepping Riverblossom Hills for upload (beyond a mammoth task) then I'll try this out in a back up.

I can also confirm that the world has retained it's description when selecting it to create a new game.

kiwi_tea, I haven't a clue when it comes to game functions. The most modding I have done is create mesh and text replacements or recatagorisations.

Hehe, Kiwi_tea- you've done lots of unusual things with your worlds, like putting sims in and also modding ini files, so you're well qualified to play around with this.

Menaceman, I'm not seeing the food trucks working in my world by setting 0x269A6298 UNK to 01 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00. They will linger for a while and then disappear (and rematerialise later) but I'm not seeing them drive around as you are. I do see traffic now though- I think the reason I was mistaken before was that the world I was testing on has a lot of separate islands, so less road interconnections than Bridgeport (making the traffic seem more sparse). Thanks for testing that, you were a great help!

I made another little discovery with this resource though. I remember Tamlo31 (stw402) finding the resource responsible for flagging a world as a vacation world here. Well guess what- it's the same resource that we're talking about here, 0x269A6298 UNK. I only cottoned onto this when I was playing with the byte values and got this on loading a save:

I'd changed my world into a vacation world!
The byte responsible for that is byte 06 again; if you set it to 01 then you get a vacation world, set it to 02 and you get a city. If it's set to 00 then you have a suburb/ town. When flagged as a vacation world then your world will not show in the dropdown menu; you can still load it from a save though (that's when I got the above message).
I also managed to break it completely- if you set byte 06 to anything else then the game doesn't know what the heck the world is, so gives it a blank icon!


The other bytes I'm guessing are concerned with identifying the world, which could be why they obliterate the WDDT. Here's a comparison of 0x296A6258 UNK in the EA worlds.

Byte number....00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09

Bridgeport.......01 00 D7 E3 FF 09 02 00 00 00
Twinbrook.......01 00 FA 10 B6 09 00 00 00 00
Barnacle Bay...01 00 B8 6E 86 08 00 00 00 00
China.............01 00 4C DB 59 08 01 00 00 00
Egypt............01 00 48 DB 59 08 01 00 00 00
France...........01 00 50 DB 59 08 01 00 00 00
Sunset Valley: Not present
Riverview: Not present.