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#1
23rd Aug 2015 at 5:06 PM
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What did you do with the Polgannon characters?
In my opinion, every custom inhabited neighborhoods should get a thread like this, Polgannon also deserves this thread. Maxon's Polgannon is available for download here at MTS. http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=562803And because it seems that I'm not the only simmer who likes these threads, here we go!
I haven't got time to play in Polgannon but I'm looking forward to.
The characters look good and interesting to play.
I hope you will also post your stories and adventures of your Polgannon neighborhood.
I'm sure everyone will play the sims differently.
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#2
23rd Aug 2015 at 5:33 PM
Polgannon is out??!!!
I have been secretly watching over the topic but I haven't done that in a while.. must download it :D
I have been secretly watching over the topic but I haven't done that in a while.. must download it :D
#4
23rd Aug 2015 at 7:46 PM
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Ah-hah. Oh good. I'm going to enjoy this.
Edit - I attach here again the proforma of the file I used to sort out the evidence just in case someone needs it.
Edit - I attach here again the proforma of the file I used to sort out the evidence just in case someone needs it.
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#5
23rd Aug 2015 at 7:49 PM
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I started playing this last night. I only opened each family to read the bios. I'm excited to see where this neighborhood is going to go.
#6
23rd Aug 2015 at 9:45 PM
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Nothing "In-Game" but I did start a extra documents folder for it!
#7
24th Aug 2015 at 1:13 AM
Well I have only played the Alpha hood so far as a tester, but I went around and read everything and played a few days at each house. I guess once I install the finished version I will do the same as I really want to work out who the killer is. I have a few suspicions but there are just so many people with motive. Plus I doubt it is that obvious.
"I dream of a better tomorrow, where chickens can cross the road and not be questioned about their motives." - Unknown
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#8
24th Aug 2015 at 1:23 AM
Last edited by MileyTheSimmer : 24th Aug 2015 at 1:13 PM.
Reason: added a pic
Oh god, this neighborhood is complicated. REALLY complicated.
I also made a huge mistake by rushing things.
Notes for me (also to help you :p) This is only mystery solving related, I'm not forcing you to solve the mystery
1. Do not move in a sim unless you are done reading the family album story of your current sim
2. Do not rush things or you will find yourself doing things very unrelated to the actual mystery solving
3. Make sure you have a calculator of some sort so you can calculate the times found in the family album story
4. Make sure you also download the attachment maxon put
5. Play the neighborhood in rotation and make an alarm that goes off every 20 minutes (for example) to not over-play the household and feel like you're playing a normal sim you just made.. that's simply not the point!
Yeah hope this helped. Oops if it didn't I probably wasted your time with these useless notes..
I also made a huge mistake by rushing things.
Notes for me (also to help you :p) This is only mystery solving related, I'm not forcing you to solve the mystery
1. Do not move in a sim unless you are done reading the family album story of your current sim
2. Do not rush things or you will find yourself doing things very unrelated to the actual mystery solving
3. Make sure you have a calculator of some sort so you can calculate the times found in the family album story
4. Make sure you also download the attachment maxon put
5. Play the neighborhood in rotation and make an alarm that goes off every 20 minutes (for example) to not over-play the household and feel like you're playing a normal sim you just made.. that's simply not the point!
Yeah hope this helped. Oops if it didn't I probably wasted your time with these useless notes..
#10
24th Aug 2015 at 12:39 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by MileyTheSimmer
Oh god, this neighborhood is complicated. REALLY complicated. I also made a huge mistake by rushing things. |
Well, you can always load a fresh copy. I like your rules - if you are going to solve the mystery I think you need to be organised BUT - I've said it several times - PLEASE don't think I am dictating the way you should play this. If you simply want to play it for fun, for heaven's sake do so. I hope the characters stand up to ordinary story/character gameplay.
Edit - aww, I see Ruan is enjoying himself.
Did I leave that coakhook there?
#11
24th Aug 2015 at 1:06 PM
Quote: Originally posted by maxon
Well, you can always load a fresh copy. I like your rules - if you are going to solve the mystery I think you need to be organised BUT - I've said it several times - PLEASE don't think I am dictating the way you should play this. If you simply want to play it for fun, for heaven's sake do so. I hope the characters stand up to ordinary story/character gameplay. Edit - aww, I see Ruan is enjoying himself. Did I leave that coakhook there? |
No, it's a modded coat hook that I put because I wanted to buy a new outfit for Margaret
By the way, I AM playing to solve the mystery, I'm challenging myself basically.
#12
24th Aug 2015 at 1:23 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by MileyTheSimmer
No, it's a modded coat hook that I put because I wanted to buy a new outfit for Margaret By the way, I AM playing to solve the mystery, I'm challenging myself basically. |
Well, that's a relief because I did make use of the coathook. I find myself living in dread of errors being found. I already know I forgot to include the description for the Golf Club.
#13
24th Aug 2015 at 1:24 PM
Last edited by MileyTheSimmer : 24th Aug 2015 at 1:28 PM.
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Quote: Originally posted by maxon
Well, that's a relief because I did make use of the coathook. I find myself living in dread of errors being found. I already know I forgot to include the description for the Golf Club. |
Edit: I ship Ruan and Margaret already! Good job maxon
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24th Aug 2015 at 1:53 PM
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#16
24th Aug 2015 at 3:33 PM
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Well, I've kinda played it a bit. I read all the bios and thoughts. And I see some interesting things here. I'm a very fast player.
spoiler is spoiler so click if you want
The cop's wife has started showing. And finished her novel. Question, when you write a novel you can read it in the bookcase, right? I can't find her novel...
Cottlesoe ran away and the Report Pet Missing interaction isn't working!
I have attached Acedemie' Le Tour and a downtown, as well as all vacation 'hoods. I need to build a shopping district...
And that's it. I found maybe two objects that are oddly placed...
I can't figure it out
"Oh look, my grandchild is now an elder. They grow up so fast. Gee, I wonder when I'll finally graduate college." Sims 2
spoiler is spoiler so click if you want
Obviously due to clues, Blaise killed his first wife and then the Hammond wife (can't remember all the names). Not gonna reveal clues because finding those little tidbits were fun! HOWEVER I had to do some good old fashioned Sims cheating to find out more info. One other murder mystery 'Hood I downloaded called Bayside Flats said "For more clues resurrect the dead and read their bios." Doing that in Polgannon is hard because three graves sit on an owned lot. So...I went weird. But needless to say I did resurrect the three and might have to do it again cuz I forgot to check memories...But really I think all you need is the Hammond wife. Which the husband has the resurrect Want locked, I notice. Since I didn't save my resurrecting, I may give him what he wants
Abbie is my biggest suspect. The maze garden is important. She was seen crying in it and...if you look hard enough something is there that doesn't belong. (But it seems Verity has an alibi for Abbie) Out of all the bios, I think Abbie's is the only one who doesn't say "He's dead." She just says, "He's gone now." I need to reread all the statements and whatnot AGAIN .
I have Davyth and Carrow in full blown romance. The witch and Jory(?) are now in love and engaged, but until I solve the mystery I can't really move him out and play the game cuz I'll lose his family pictures. I'd hate to lose any of this masterpiece!
Gwen and Cordelia got married (in their living room), Karenza had her baby, named her Elisabeth. With a special memory thing (downloaded here) she put her up for adoption and Cordelia took her (I moved Cordelia out and merged her with Karenza then moved her back out with the baby. So basically I did what maxon did with Tamera lol). Then used the Sim Blender to make Elisabeth "family" with Gwen and Cordelia. (they are technically cousins lol). Cordelia still wants to adopt a baby so that may come later. And I reset her lifetime want. She wants to have 3 kids graduate...or have 6 grandchildren...can't remember.
Abbie is my biggest suspect. The maze garden is important. She was seen crying in it and...if you look hard enough something is there that doesn't belong. (But it seems Verity has an alibi for Abbie) Out of all the bios, I think Abbie's is the only one who doesn't say "He's dead." She just says, "He's gone now." I need to reread all the statements and whatnot AGAIN .
I have Davyth and Carrow in full blown romance. The witch and Jory(?) are now in love and engaged, but until I solve the mystery I can't really move him out and play the game cuz I'll lose his family pictures. I'd hate to lose any of this masterpiece!
Gwen and Cordelia got married (in their living room), Karenza had her baby, named her Elisabeth. With a special memory thing (downloaded here) she put her up for adoption and Cordelia took her (I moved Cordelia out and merged her with Karenza then moved her back out with the baby. So basically I did what maxon did with Tamera lol). Then used the Sim Blender to make Elisabeth "family" with Gwen and Cordelia. (they are technically cousins lol). Cordelia still wants to adopt a baby so that may come later. And I reset her lifetime want. She wants to have 3 kids graduate...or have 6 grandchildren...can't remember.
The cop's wife has started showing. And finished her novel. Question, when you write a novel you can read it in the bookcase, right? I can't find her novel...
Cottlesoe ran away and the Report Pet Missing interaction isn't working!
I have attached Acedemie' Le Tour and a downtown, as well as all vacation 'hoods. I need to build a shopping district...
And that's it. I found maybe two objects that are oddly placed...
I can't figure it out
"Oh look, my grandchild is now an elder. They grow up so fast. Gee, I wonder when I'll finally graduate college." Sims 2
#18
24th Aug 2015 at 5:30 PM
Last edited by MileyTheSimmer : 24th Aug 2015 at 10:49 PM.
Quote: Originally posted by maxon
Well I see they got busy quickly enough <boggles at preggers Margaret>. |
Well, to be fair, it only took me about 2 interactions so they can be able to use romantic interactions
Thank you marka for making me remember how to make spoilers again
Okay so, I looked into Ruan's family album and I gathered about 7 to 8 alibis and Abbie's alibis aren't looking good.
Abbie just seems fishy to me, she came back home late if I remember correctly and she had enough time to murder Blaise because she came back at 6 PM I believe.
I noticed an inconsistency but I don't know with who! It is gonna take forever to re-read Ruan's family album again but I did notice something weird so I better go check it out again, I'm not actually done with his story yet because I got interrupted so um that's that.. yeah better check for more alibis but I'm really focusing on the Penhaligans' alibis since they are the most important to me as of now.
Abbie just seems fishy to me, she came back home late if I remember correctly and she had enough time to murder Blaise because she came back at 6 PM I believe.
I noticed an inconsistency but I don't know with who! It is gonna take forever to re-read Ruan's family album again but I did notice something weird so I better go check it out again, I'm not actually done with his story yet because I got interrupted so um that's that.. yeah better check for more alibis but I'm really focusing on the Penhaligans' alibis since they are the most important to me as of now.
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24th Aug 2015 at 7:21 PM
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@PlatinumPlumbbob: Oh, yeah I forgot lol been a while since I wrote one thanks! And yes! I agree Abbie is looking mighty fishy since she found the body with Rozan (Rowzan?) Sorry
^ I never noticed that guy lol
"Oh look, my grandchild is now an elder. They grow up so fast. Gee, I wonder when I'll finally graduate college." Sims 2
^ I never noticed that guy lol
"Oh look, my grandchild is now an elder. They grow up so fast. Gee, I wonder when I'll finally graduate college." Sims 2
#20
24th Aug 2015 at 7:29 PM
All of you should use the Spoiler tags like this [spoiler]text here [/spoiler ] (Need to remove the space between the last r and ] to work.)
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All my Beginning Hoods as Shopping Districts plus Old Town. http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=523417
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All my Beginning Hoods here at MTS. http://www.modthesims.info/member.php?u=7749491
All my Beginning Hoods as Shopping Districts plus Old Town. http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=523417
MooVille, a tribute to Mootilda and her fabulous lots http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=534158
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#21
25th Aug 2015 at 8:35 AM
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So far I've looked into every family and noted down the clues in their bios, memories and photo albums, then filled in the Cross Check Spreadsheet. I've made a few plans for what I'm going to do with the households (Ruan and Margaret are going to team up over dinner to put their clues together and find the killer), but I'm still stumped on who the killer actually is. Funny enough, ignoring children and pets I have found exactly four residents without a motive for killing Blaise, and two of them might still have one. That guy had it coming.
I've uncovered all the minor secrets so far (I think) and unfortunately those remove most of the fake alibis from suspicion. Here's what I have left (spoilers, obviously, read at your own risk).
Anyway, that's the conclusions I made so far. I have a prime suspect, but no evidence on him. I'll go look over the lots again I guess... Kind of need to solve the mystery for the plot to continue.
The sure ones are Len and Griselda, Jowan and Eva have no obvious motive either, but they're caught up in some of the minor secrets.
I've uncovered all the minor secrets so far (I think) and unfortunately those remove most of the fake alibis from suspicion. Here's what I have left (spoilers, obviously, read at your own risk).
Adele's alibi is fake, but she was with Richard the whole time. Unless the two of them murdered Blaise together at 3 pm, this holds out. While Richard has a clear motive (Blaise's death would give Adele money she could give to him), Adele's motive is a bit weaker, since she already knows she will inherit everything.
Verity was actually hanging out with Jowen all afternoon, but there's a bunch of evidence where they were and both of them lack any real motive.
Abbie seems to be the prime suspect for many people, but her statement is one of the best supported. Unless her and Rozen teamed up after 5:00 to kill Blaise, she's been seen in so many pics and by so many witnesses. The only time not covered is between when she dropped Oliver off and when she went to meet Rowen. It's less than an hour and she was seen by Verity crying in the maze during that time. While Abbie has a strong motive in that Blaise is responsible for her current misery and also promised to leave her something in his will she might use to leave the place, her alibi holds out so far.
The second Penhaligan pair (Carrow and Caroline) has a very strong motive, since Blaise threatened to cut Carrow out of his will but hasn't done so yet. Carrow's alibi is kind of weak, but he was visiting Davyth. Caroline was at the Green, which at this point is an automatic pass given how many people were there. Worth looking into still.
Cordelia's alibi is filled with holes, which she freely admits. Blaise did threaten to kick her out, but she's a weak suspect.
Arthur seems to be convinced that Blaise killed Lowena, and what's more, he seems to have only recently have come to that conclusion (it's all he thinks about). He's definitely one of my prime suspects. He's covered by witnesses for the first part, but nobody went to the pharmacy after Tomas, leaving 1.5 hours open before he was seen again talking to Richard. Somebody might have noticed if the pharmacy was closed, so it's not foolproof, but he might have slipped out to kill Blaise.
Chester is another prime suspect. He's actually one of the two people who still have a hole in their alibi I haven't been able to fix with the minor secrets. Namely, he claims to have been at home alone until 4 pm when he went to the Vicarage, but he can be seen walking past the Green around 3 pm. Griselda even waves in his direction (she never mentioned that, but it's probably not unusual to see somebody on the Green), but he ignores her. Given that he's in love with Griselda, this is really suspicious. Another piece of evidence against Chester is the whole dark magic ritual. According to Rozen, it was set up all wrong, so it was more like someone knew the legends would point to Rozen and make her a suspect. Chester's motive can be found in Blaise trying to get him excommunicated for the attempt to exorcise a baby.
Jory is a problematic case. He has been to the Stones on the day Blaise died to hide his smuggling goods (which I had him dig up later and he found treasure) and since Blaise was also there, he might have surprised Jory and Jory might have killed him. Where it falls apart is Jory taking the time to set things up to look like a ritual murder, implicating Rozen who he still loves, and not taking the time to carry his smuggling goods away. There's also the issue of the murder weapon being a knife, when this scene makes a shovel more likely. There is the possibility that Jory killed Blaise and ran away, leaving someone else (like Chester) to arrange the murder scene...
Eva lied at first about being at home all day, but pics support the evidence of her going shopping. The reason she lied was because she was spending Chester's money likely.
While Alan has some good motives, he's been covered for the most part by pics. There is one pic that shows him alone when he should be with Abbie instead, but I guess that takes place after Abbie went to the Green.
Senara has a hole in her alibi. She claims to have worked in her garden all the time until Alan arrived, and she is seen in pictures at 2:00 and around 3:30, but James and Theo saw her pass by the school around 3:00. Her motive would be Blaise threatening her son.
Rozen, like Abbie, is covered for most of the time, thanks to Constable Breoc who keeps a tireless watch on her. Her motive for killing Blaise is actually kind of weak, because while she hated him, I find it unlikely that she'd wait for over 20 years with her revenge. She might have put a curse on him or something.
One thing I found weird is that nobody ever mentions seeing Breoc in their statements. I guess he's kind of part of the scenery? He's seen in a few pics, but he does have a motive.
Verity was actually hanging out with Jowen all afternoon, but there's a bunch of evidence where they were and both of them lack any real motive.
Abbie seems to be the prime suspect for many people, but her statement is one of the best supported. Unless her and Rozen teamed up after 5:00 to kill Blaise, she's been seen in so many pics and by so many witnesses. The only time not covered is between when she dropped Oliver off and when she went to meet Rowen. It's less than an hour and she was seen by Verity crying in the maze during that time. While Abbie has a strong motive in that Blaise is responsible for her current misery and also promised to leave her something in his will she might use to leave the place, her alibi holds out so far.
The second Penhaligan pair (Carrow and Caroline) has a very strong motive, since Blaise threatened to cut Carrow out of his will but hasn't done so yet. Carrow's alibi is kind of weak, but he was visiting Davyth. Caroline was at the Green, which at this point is an automatic pass given how many people were there. Worth looking into still.
Cordelia's alibi is filled with holes, which she freely admits. Blaise did threaten to kick her out, but she's a weak suspect.
Arthur seems to be convinced that Blaise killed Lowena, and what's more, he seems to have only recently have come to that conclusion (it's all he thinks about). He's definitely one of my prime suspects. He's covered by witnesses for the first part, but nobody went to the pharmacy after Tomas, leaving 1.5 hours open before he was seen again talking to Richard. Somebody might have noticed if the pharmacy was closed, so it's not foolproof, but he might have slipped out to kill Blaise.
Chester is another prime suspect. He's actually one of the two people who still have a hole in their alibi I haven't been able to fix with the minor secrets. Namely, he claims to have been at home alone until 4 pm when he went to the Vicarage, but he can be seen walking past the Green around 3 pm. Griselda even waves in his direction (she never mentioned that, but it's probably not unusual to see somebody on the Green), but he ignores her. Given that he's in love with Griselda, this is really suspicious. Another piece of evidence against Chester is the whole dark magic ritual. According to Rozen, it was set up all wrong, so it was more like someone knew the legends would point to Rozen and make her a suspect. Chester's motive can be found in Blaise trying to get him excommunicated for the attempt to exorcise a baby.
Jory is a problematic case. He has been to the Stones on the day Blaise died to hide his smuggling goods (which I had him dig up later and he found treasure) and since Blaise was also there, he might have surprised Jory and Jory might have killed him. Where it falls apart is Jory taking the time to set things up to look like a ritual murder, implicating Rozen who he still loves, and not taking the time to carry his smuggling goods away. There's also the issue of the murder weapon being a knife, when this scene makes a shovel more likely. There is the possibility that Jory killed Blaise and ran away, leaving someone else (like Chester) to arrange the murder scene...
Eva lied at first about being at home all day, but pics support the evidence of her going shopping. The reason she lied was because she was spending Chester's money likely.
While Alan has some good motives, he's been covered for the most part by pics. There is one pic that shows him alone when he should be with Abbie instead, but I guess that takes place after Abbie went to the Green.
Senara has a hole in her alibi. She claims to have worked in her garden all the time until Alan arrived, and she is seen in pictures at 2:00 and around 3:30, but James and Theo saw her pass by the school around 3:00. Her motive would be Blaise threatening her son.
Rozen, like Abbie, is covered for most of the time, thanks to Constable Breoc who keeps a tireless watch on her. Her motive for killing Blaise is actually kind of weak, because while she hated him, I find it unlikely that she'd wait for over 20 years with her revenge. She might have put a curse on him or something.
One thing I found weird is that nobody ever mentions seeing Breoc in their statements. I guess he's kind of part of the scenery? He's seen in a few pics, but he does have a motive.
Anyway, that's the conclusions I made so far. I have a prime suspect, but no evidence on him. I'll go look over the lots again I guess... Kind of need to solve the mystery for the plot to continue.
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25th Aug 2015 at 11:18 AM
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@Ovenhole - you can PM me with your conclusions at any time though I will only respond to:
Name
Evidence (needs to be fairly complete)
Motive
Wild mass guessing will get you nowhere.
Name
Evidence (needs to be fairly complete)
Motive
Wild mass guessing will get you nowhere.
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25th Aug 2015 at 11:48 AM
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I know, but I still need to find more evidence :-(
#24
25th Aug 2015 at 1:16 PM
Last edited by MileyTheSimmer : 25th Aug 2015 at 7:24 PM.
Interesting notes.
For some reason I suspect Carrow, he has a motive but this is just a wild guess with no evidence to support it yet..
I should play Polgannon again but I'm a bit busy at the moment
The real killer
For some reason I suspect Carrow, he has a motive but this is just a wild guess with no evidence to support it yet..
I should play Polgannon again but I'm a bit busy at the moment
If I remember correctly, I saw Caroline flirting with someone in a picture.. is Caroline cheating? Or was it Blaise's wife? I really don't remember.. actually I think both of them are.
The real killer
is maxon! I mean, look at her! She has 'shifty eyes' (whatever the hell that means) and she created the whole neighborhood so TECHNICALLY, she killed Blaise. End of the story. I demand an award!!
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25th Aug 2015 at 8:39 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by MileyTheSimmer
The real killer
is maxon! I mean, look at her! She has 'shifty eyes' (whatever the hell that means) and she created the whole neighborhood so TECHNICALLY, she killed Blaise. End of the story. I demand an award!!
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