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#1 Old 27th Feb 2014 at 12:34 AM Last edited by sims 1 : 6th May 2014 at 6:58 AM. Reason: found some more disturbing news about the sims 3
Default AN OLD updated post of what EA is not telling you the Sims 3 can be termined and replaced by the sims 4 please read everyone's post here
don't mean to cause drama but this is what a lot of prople don't know and it is inside the sims 3 license agreement

EA says: (documentation of the lincense) exposed here

ELECTRONIC ARTS
END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT
FOR THE SIMS 3 GAME
(DISTRIBUTED ON PHYSICAL MEDIA)


This End User License Agreement (“License”) is an agreement between you and Electronic Arts Inc. and its affiliates (collectively "EA"). This License governs your use of legitimate copies of this software, and all related documentation, utilities, and updates and upgrades that replace or supplement the software and are not distributed with a separate license (collectively, the "Software"). This Software is licensed to you, not sold.

By installing or using the Software, you agree to accept the terms and conditions of this License and be bound to them. If you do not agree to the terms of this License, then do not install or use the Software. Sections 4 and 5 below describe data EA may use to provide services and support to you in connection with the Software. If you do not agree to this use of data, do not install or use the Software. IF YOU INSTALL the Software, you fully accept the terms and conditions of this License.

Right to Return: If you do not agree to the terms of this License, and if you purchased this game from a physical retail store in the United States, and if you have not installed or used the Software, you may return the Software for a refund or exchange within thirty (30) days from the date of purchase by following the instructions for return available at http://warrantyinfo.ea.com.

1. Limited License Grant and Terms

A. Grant. Through an authorized purchase or transfer, you acquire and EA grants you a non-exclusive license to install and use the Software for your personal, limited, non-commercial use solely as set forth in this License and the accompanying documentation. Your acquired rights are subject to your agreement and continuing compliance with this License. Commercial use of the Software is prohibited. You are expressly prohibited from sub-licensing, renting, leasing or otherwise distributing the Software or rights to use the Software, except by transfer as expressly set forth in section 3 below. Your License term begins on the date on which you install or otherwise use the Software, and ends on the date that you dispose of the Software or EA terminates this License, whichever is earlier. Your license will terminate immediately if you attempt to circumvent the technical protection measures for the Software. All use of the Software is subject to this License. A separate Terms of Service agreement, and The Sims 3 Store digital services agreement, as applicable, governs your use of online services in connection with the Software. You may view the Terms of Service agreement at terms.ea.com and the The Sims 3 Store digital services agreement at The Sims 3 Store online.

B. Technical Protection Measures. Your license to the Software is verified by inserting the disk in the drive and by entering the serial code enclosed with the Software. Thereafter, you must have the disk in the drive to use the Software. If you disable or otherwise tamper with the technical protection measures, the Software may not function properly and you will have materially breached this License. Keep your serial code. You will need the serial code to access online services.

C. Using Online Services. You must have an EA account and have accepted EA's terms of service at terms.ea.com, and have registered the Software with the enclosed serial code to access online services including the upload and download additional content for the Software and The Sims 3 Exchange , and SimPoints and The Sims 3 Store. MAC users must also update to the latest version of The Sims 3 Launcher in order to access online services. Only one copy of the Software may access online services at a time. Acceptance of a separate digital services agreement is also required to use The Sims 3 Store and SimPoints. Only one user of the Software may register the Software online to access online services. Online registration of the Software is not transferable. If your EA account is terminated, you will not be able to upload or download content or access online services.

D. The Sims 3 Launcher, Software Updates, and EA's Download Manager. When you install the Software on a PC, EA provides you the option of installing EA's Download Manager application. A connection to the Internet and the Download Manager application are required to download and install Software updates. If you do not install EA's Download Manager, you will not be able to download and install Software updates. The EA Download Manager application is included with your game. If you wish to install EA Download Manager, double click the executable file and it will begin the installation process. You can choose to install it at a later date if you wish to receive Software updates. You can also delete the file (uninstalled) from your computer. If you install the EA Download Manager and wish to remove it, follow the “remove program” instructions for your Windows Operating System. The Sims 3 Launcher is the screen from which you may launch (play) your game, manage Software updates, and upload and download content, if you are connected to the Internet. If your computer is connected to the Internet, The Sims 3 Launcher will automatically provide you with access to news, content, and information from The Sims 3 and The Sims 3 community and connect you to The Sims website(s). We may automatically update the Download Manager (if you have it installed) or other components of the Software when your computer is connected to the Internet to keep the Software functioning properly. You may separately uninstall the Download Manager, but if you do so, you may not have access to Software updates. Software updates may be used only with licensed copies of the Software.

E. IGA Worldwide Technology. This game incorporates dynamic advertisement serving technology offered by IGA Worldwide Inc. (“IGA Technology”), which enables advertising to be temporarily uploaded into the game on your PC or console, and replaced while you are online. IGA Technology only logs information that is needed to measure presentation of advertising, and to serve advertising to the appropriate geographic region and to the right location within the game. Logged data may include Internet Protocol Address (“IP Address”), in game location, length of time an advertisement was visible, size of the advertisements, and angle of view. The IP Address is deleted when the online game session ends. Your game may be assigned an id number, which is stored on your PC or console, and used by IGA Technology to calculate the number of unique and repeat views of dynamic in game advertising. The id number is not associated with any personal data. No logged information is used to personally identify you. This ad serving technology is integrated into the game; if you do not want to use this technology, do not play the game while connected to the Internet. For more information see our privacy policy at privacy.ea.com.

2. Intellectual Property Rights and Ownership.

A. Reservation of Rights. You have purchased a limited license to the Software and your rights are limited to the license grant above and subject to this License. You may not otherwise copy, display, distribute, perform, publish, modify, or use the Software or any component of it. You are prohibited from making a copy of the Software available on a network where it could be used or downloaded by multiple users. Except as expressly licensed to you herein, EA and its licensors, as applicable, owns and reserves all right, title and interest in the Software, and all related data, characters, themes, objects, storyline, images, photographs, graphics, animations, video, music, text, and the associated copyrights, trademarks, moral rights and other intellectual property rights therein. This License is limited to the intellectual property rights of EA and its licensors in the Software and does not include any rights to other patents or intellectual property. Except to the extent permitted under applicable law, you may not decompile, disassemble, reverse engineer or created derivative works of the Software by any means whatsoever. You may not remove, alter, or obscure any product identification, copyright, or other intellectual property notices in the Software. All rights not expressly granted herein are reserved to EA.

B. Contributing Content through The Sims 3 Launcher

1. If you have an EA account and have registered the Software online, the Software allows you to download additional content for the game from EA's website(s) and to upload content to the website(s) through The Sims 3 Launcher.

2. Uploading and downloading content is subject to EA's online terms of service (terms.ea.com). You may not upload any content through the Software that is protected by copyright, trademark or other intellectual property rights unless you are permitted to do so by the owner or law. EA may, without prior notice to you and in its sole judgment, remove content that may infringe the intellectual property rights of a third party. If you are a repeat infringer of EA's or a third party's intellectual property rights, EA may terminate your EA account without notice to you.

3. In exchange for enabling your contribution of content, when you contribute content through the Software, you expressly grant to EA a non-exclusive, perpetual, fully transferable and sub-licensable, worldwide, irrevocable right to use, reproduce, modify and create derivative works from, distribute, transmit, broadcast, and publicly display and perform the content, or any portion thereof, in connection with the distribution of such content to other users and potential users of the Software (such as, for example, featuring such content for download in The Sims 3 Launcher) and in the marketing and advertising of the Software, without further notice, payment or attribution to you. You grant EA all licenses, consents and clearances to enable EA to use such content for such purposes.

4. In exchange for the right to use content contributed by other users through the Software, when you contribute content through the Software, you expressly grant to other users of the Software the non-exclusive, perpetual, transferable, worldwide, irrevocable right to access and use, copy, modify, display, perform, and create and distribute derivative works from, your contributed content in connection with the Software, and to distribute and otherwise communicate your contributed content as a component of works that they create using the Software, for example, The Sims lots or The Sims videos, without further notice, attribution or compensation to you. You hereby waive any moral rights of paternity, publication, reputation, or attribution under applicable law with respect to EA's and other players' use and enjoyment of such content contributions in connection with the Software.

3. Transfer. You may make a one time permanent transfer to all your rights to install and use the Software to another individual or legal entity on the following conditions: (a) you also transfer this License and all copies of the Software; (b) you retain no copies of the Software, upgrades, updates or prior versions; and (c) the receiving party accepts the terms and conditions of this License. Online registration is not transferable. When you register your Software online to access online services, that registration is unique to you. If you make a legitimate transfer of the Software, you transfer the licensed rights to the copy of the Software itself, but not the right to access any services that are made available in connection with the Software online. In addition, such a transfer may not include the right to receive updates, dynamically served content, or the right to upload and download content, or use any other online service of EA in connection with the Software. EA may require that any end user of the Software register the Software online as a condition of use and/or the purchase additional Licenses. NOTWITHSTANDING THE FOREGOING, YOU MAY NOT TRANSFER PRE-RELEASE COPIES OF THE SOFTWARE.

4. Consent to Collection and Use of Data. To facilitate the provision of software updates; dynamically served content including advertising; product support; and online services to you, you agree that EA and its affiliates may collect, use, store and transmit technical and related information that identifies your computer (such as Internet Protocol Address and hardware identification), operating system, and application software and peripheral hardware, and non-personally identifiable game play and software usage statistics, without further notice to you. EA and its affiliates may also use this information in the aggregate, in a form which does not personally identify you, to improve our products and services and we may share anonymous aggregate data with our third party service providers.

5. Consent to Public Display of Data. If you participate in online services, such as downloading and uploading content, EA and its affiliates may also collect, use, store, transmit and publicly display data regarding your content contributions, and associate you with content that is created and shared by you with other players and EA. Data that personally identifies you is collected, used, stored and transmitted in accordance with EA's Privacy Policy located at privacy.ea.com.

6. Termination. This License is effective until terminated. Your rights under this License will terminate immediately and automatically without any notice from EA if you fail to comply with any of the terms and conditions of this License. Promptly upon termination, you must cease all use of the Software and destroy all copies of the Software in your possession or control. Termination will not limit any of EA's other rights or remedies at law or in equity. Sections 2 and 4 - 17 of this License shall survive termination or expiration of this License for any reason.

7. Limited Warranty on Recording Media. THE LIMITED WARRANTY ON THE RECORDING MEDIA THAT ACCOMPANIES YOUR SOFTWARE IS FOUND IN THE APPLICABLE PRODUCT MANUAL THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED WITH YOUR SOFTWARE AND IS INCORPORATED HEREIN BY REFERENCE. THIS LIMITED WARRANTY GIVES YOU SPECIFIC LEGAL RIGHTS. YOU MAY ALSO HAVE ADDITIONAL RIGHTS UNDER APPLICABLE LOCAL LAW, WHICH VARY FROM JURISDICTION TO JURISDICTION.

8. Disclaimer of Warranties. EXCEPT FOR THE LIMITED WARRANTY ON RECORDING MEDIA FOUND IN THE PRODUCT MANUAL, AS APPLICABLE, AND TO THE FULLEST EXTENT PERMISSIBLE UNDER APPLICABLE LAW, THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED TO YOU “AS IS,” WITH ALL FAULTS, WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, AND YOUR USE IS AT YOUR SOLE RISK. THE ENTIRE RISK OF SATISFACTORY QUALITY AND PERFORMANCE RESIDES WITH YOU. EA AND EA'S LICENSORS (COLLECTIVELY “EA” FOR PURPOSES OF THIS SECTION AND SECTION 9) DO NOT MAKE, AND HEREBY DISCLAIM, ANY AND ALL EXPRESS, IMPLIED OR STATUTORY WARRANTIES, INCLUDING IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF CONDITION, UNINTERRUPTED USE, MERCHANTABILITY, SATISFACTORY QUALITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, NONINFRINGEMENT OF THIRD PARTY RIGHTS, AND WARRANTIES (IF ANY) ARISING FROM A COURSE OF DEALING, USAGE, OR TRADE PRACTICE. EA DOES NOT WARRANT AGAINST INTERFERENCE WITH YOUR ENJOYMENT OF THE SOFTWARE; THAT THE SOFTWARE WILL MEET YOUR REQUIREMENTS; THAT OPERATION OF THE SOFTWARE WILL BE UNINTERRUPTED OR ERROR-FREE, OR THAT THE SOFTWARE WILL BE COMPATIBLE WITH THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE OR THAT ANY ERRORS IN THE SOFTWARE WILL BE CORRECTED. NO ORAL OR WRITTEN ADVICE PROVIDED BY EA OR ANY AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE SHALL CREATE A WARRANTY. SOME JURISDICTIONS DO NOT ALLOW THE EXCLUSION OF OR LIMITATIONS ON IMPLIED WARRANTIES OR THE LIMITATIONS ON THE APPLICABLE STATUTORY RIGHTS OF A CONSUMER, SO SOME OR ALL OF THE ABOVE EXCLUSIONS AND LIMITATIONS MAY NOT APPLY TO YOU.

9. Limitation of Liability. TO THE FULLEST EXTENT PERMISSIBLE BY APPLICABLE LAW, IN NO EVENT SHALL EA, ITS SUBSIDIARIES OR ITS AFFILIATES BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY LOSS OR DAMAGE OF ANY KIND ARISING OUT OF, RELATING TO, OR IN CONNECTION WITH THIS LICENSE OR THE SOFTWARE, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION PERSONAL INJURY, PROPERTY DAMAGE, LOSS OF DATA (INCLUDING PLAYER CHARACTERS, VIRTUAL GOODS OR CURRENCY, ACCOUNTS, STATISTICS, OR OTHER USER DATA), LOSS OF GOODWILL, INTERUPTION OF SERVICE, WORK STOPPAGE, COMPUTER DISRUPTION, INTERFERENCE, FAILURE OR MALFUNCTION, LOST PROFITS, COST OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES, OR ANY FORM OF INDIRECT, SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR PUNITIVE DAMAGES, WHETHER SUCH ALLEGED LOSS OR DAMAGE ARISES IN TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE), CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY OR OTHERWISE, AND WHETHER OR NOT EA HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE. SOME JURISDICTIONS DO NOT ALLOW A LIMITATION OF LIABILITY FOR DEATH, PERSONAL INJURY, FRAUDULENT MISREPRESENTATIONS OR CERTAIN INTENTIONAL OR NEGLIGENT ACTS, OR VIOLATION OF SPECIFIC STATUTES, OR THE LIMITATION OF INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES, SO SOME OR ALL OF THE ABOVE LIMITATIONS OF LIABILITY MAY NOT APPLY TO YOU. In no event shall EA's total liability to you for all damages (except as required by applicable law) exceed the amount actually paid by you for the Software.

10. Limitation of Liability and Disclaimer of Warranties are Material Terms of this License. You agree that the provisions in this License that limit liability are essential terms of this License. The foregoing limitations of liability apply even if the above stated remedy under the Limited Warranty for Recording Media fails in its essential purpose.

11. Severability and Survival. If any provision of this License is illegal or unenforceable under applicable law, the remainder of the provision shall be amended to achieve as closely as possible the effect of the original term and all other provisions of this License shall continue in full force and effect.

12. U.S. Government Restricted Rights. If you are a government end user, then this provision applies to you. The Software provided in connection with this License has been developed entirely at private expense, as defined in FAR section 2.101, DFARS section 252.227-7014(a)(1) and DFARS section 252.227-7015 (or any equivalent or subsequent agency regulation thereof), and is provided as “commercial items,” “commercial computer software” and/or “commercial computer software documentation.” Consistent with DFARS section 227.7202 and FAR section 12.212, and to the extent required under U.S. federal law, the minimum restricted rights as set forth in FAR section 52.227-19 (or any equivalent or subsequent agency regulation thereof), any use, modification, reproduction, release, performance, display, disclosure or distribution thereof by or for the U.S. Government shall be governed solely by this License and shall be prohibited except to the extent expressly permitted by this License.

13. Injunctive Relief. You agree that a breach of this License may cause irreparable injury to EA for which monetary damages would not be an adequate remedy and EA shall be entitled to seek equitable relief in addition to any remedies it may have hereunder or at law.

14. Governing Law. This License shall be governed by and construed (without regard to conflicts or choice of law principles) under the laws of the State of California as applied to agreements entered into and to be performed entirely in California between California residents. Unless expressly waived by EA in writing for the particular instance or contrary to local law, the sole and exclusive jurisdiction and venue for actions related to the subject matter hereof shall be the California state and federal courts having within their jurisdiction the location of EA's principal corporate place of business. Both parties consent to the jurisdiction of such courts and agree that process may be served in the manner provided herein for giving of notices or otherwise as allowed by California or federal law. The parties agree that the UN Convention on Contracts for the International Sale of Goods (Vienna, 1980) shall not apply to this License or to any dispute or transaction arising out of this License.

15. Export. You agree to abide by U.S. and other applicable export control laws and agree not to transfer the Software to a foreign national, or national destination, which is prohibited by such laws, without first obtaining, and then complying with, any requisite government authorization. You certify that you are not a person with whom EA is prohibited from transacting business under applicable law.

16. Third Party Technology. If you use this Software on a MAC, then your Software incorporates technology developed by TransGaming Inc. (“Cider”). Cider(tm) is Copyright © 2000-2009 TransGaming Inc.

17. Entire Agreement. This License constitutes the entire agreement between you and EA with respect to the Software and supersedes all prior or contemporaneous understandings regarding such subject matter. No amendment to or modification of this License will be binding unless made in writing and signed by EA. No failure to exercise, and no delay in exercising, on the part of either party, any right or any power hereunder shall operate as a waiver thereof, nor shall any single or partial exercise of any right or power hereunder preclude further exercise of any other right hereunder. In the event of a conflict between this License and any applicable purchase or other terms, the terms of this License shall govern.

© Electronic Arts Inc. 2009



SIMS 1 SAYS:
will ea let us play the sims 3 forever or will we eventually be forced on the sims 4 or 2 or 1 online games don't last forever my uncle bought a PC game cost him 50$ or 30$ after 2 weeks the game had to be thorwn out because the games online server shutdown and just think of the PS2

I give it 2 or 3 years at most with the sims 4 out you'll never know. think of what happened to the tiger woods online features and the sims 3 requires origin basically what this is telling us they could stop us from play the sims 3 on their demand because of origin

for the admin: I got your other post about buying the disk instead of using the digital copy: unfortunately for people who bought the disk newer copies also require an online connection sorry for the drama I don't' mean to cause trouble many people on google are swearing at origin even the ones who claim they have the disk

and I tried to get around origin but I got an error it said origin must be working and installed to open the sims 3 app even though I removed origin and still left the sims 3 on my hard drive and there. if someone can get around origin without out the original 50$ copies of TS3 please tell how can we play the sims 3 offline once EA cuts it like their other titles like tiger woods for pc



Please read further in I later found out how to get around origin. page 2
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Top Secret Researcher
#2 Old 27th Feb 2014 at 12:43 AM
Too long, didn't read. Seriously, most people don't read it for a reason: it's long and boring and I don't want to hunt through the entire text. Could you please highlight the relevant text or cut it down to a manageable size?
Lab Assistant
Original Poster
#3 Old 27th Feb 2014 at 12:50 AM Last edited by sims 1 : 27th Feb 2014 at 1:39 AM.
Quote: Originally posted by hugbug993
Too long, didn't read. Seriously, most people don't read it for a reason: it's long and boring and I don't want to hunt through the entire text. Could you please highlight the relevant text or cut it down to a manageable size?


I can agree I but it claims to tell us the topic is true I had to place the vary boring text for evidence

what I saw

Grant. Through an authorized purchase or transfer, you acquire and EA grants you a non-exclusive license to install and use the Software for your personal, limited, non-commercial use solely as set forth in this License and the accompanying documentation. Your acquired rights are subject to your agreement and continuing compliance with this License. Commercial use of the Software is prohibited. You are expressly prohibited from sub-licensing, renting, leasing or otherwise distributing the Software or rights to use the Software, except by transfer as expressly set forth in section 3 below. Your License term begins on the date on which you install or otherwise use the Software, and ends on the date that you dispose of the Software or EA terminates this License, whichever is earlier. Your license will terminate immediately if you attempt to circumvent the technical protection measures for the Software. All use of the Software is subject to this License. A separate Terms of Service agreement, and The Sims 3 Store digital services agreement, as applicable, governs your use of online services in connection with the Software. You may view the Terms of Service agreement at terms.ea.com and the The Sims 3 Store digital services agreement at The Sims 3 Store online.

B. Technical Protection Measures. Your license to the Software is verified by inserting the disk in the drive and by entering the serial code enclosed with the Software. Thereafter, you must have the disk in the drive to use the Software. If you disable or otherwise tamper with the technical protection measures, the Software may not function properly and you will have materially breached this License. Keep your serial code. You will need the serial code to access online services.

Is one of them features origin?????
Top Secret Researcher
#4 Old 27th Feb 2014 at 12:58 AM
Doesn't it say somewhere in all that jargon if you're unsatisfied with the product, you can go through EA to get a refund? I may have missed your point entirely, I'm just a little confused as to your complaint? You have an origin copy that won't work? Or you're upset they can terminate at any time?
Lab Assistant
Original Poster
#5 Old 27th Feb 2014 at 1:01 AM Last edited by sims 1 : 1st Mar 2014 at 2:10 PM.
Quote: Originally posted by Nymphetamine
Doesn't it say somewhere in all that jargon if you're unsatisfied with the product, you can go through EA to get a refund? I may have missed your point entirely, I'm just a little confused as to your complaint? You have an origin copy that won't work? Or you're upset they can terminate at any time?



refund must be in 30 days of purchase


upset that they could terminate at any time because I bought the game and want to play it and originI can't get origin to work off line without first going online, And I want to buy all of the sims 3 things eventually.

(later post says how to get around origin)
Top Secret Researcher
#6 Old 27th Feb 2014 at 1:18 AM
Well. If people are still playing 1 and 2, I would presume that maybe they are referring to the Sims as a whole? The store is too much of a cash cow for them right now too, no way they'd terminate anything until they suck it dry. But this is assuming EA is run by rational people. Which clearly, well.
Mad Poster
#7 Old 27th Feb 2014 at 1:58 AM
Isn't this pretty much common knowledge? I mean don't get me wrong, it sucks harder than Paris Hilton at a slutfest but I kinda took it as red that EA could very well do something like this if they felt like royally buttfucking all their Sims fans.
Née whiterider
retired moderator
#8 Old 27th Feb 2014 at 2:25 AM
Yeah... I get why you're so pissed off about this but... it's old news. Games companies have all been doing this for years now. If you don't like it - and I'm with you - buy indie.

What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact.
Top Secret Researcher
#9 Old 27th Feb 2014 at 2:33 AM
Okay, since this got posted without actually reading it, let's translate this from legalese.

Quote: Originally posted by sims 1
ELECTRONIC ARTS
END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT
FOR THE SIMS 3 GAME
(DISTRIBUTED ON PHYSICAL MEDIA)


Physical media. Last time I checked, Origin was not physical. Do you have the download license agreement?

Quote: Originally posted by BoringAssAgreement
This End User License Agreement...


EA has made an agreement between it and you and if you install the program you've automatically agreed to it.

Quote: Originally posted by BoringAssAgreement
1. Limited License Grant and Terms


A. Don't use it for commercial purposes, don't distribute it to anyone else unless you sell it, and if you do, EA will sue you. This doesn't cover online services, which has a separate ToS agreement. Also: the license starts the day you install the game and ends when EA sues you or you get rid of the program.

B. Again, the license starts the day you install the game. Of note: "you must have the disk in the drive to use the Software". If you've purchased it online, you have a different license.

C. This covers online services, which is covered by the other terms of service. Also: "Only one copy of the Software may access online services at a time." Technically, the way they've phrased it, only one customer is allowed to access their site at a time.

D. This talks about EADM and updates. EADM isn't necessary unless you want to get updates. Seriously, that's basically all it says.

E. IGA Worldwide Technology is making you watch adverts and it's watching you do so. It mainly talks about exactly what information is given to IGA. If you don't want adverts, don't play while you're connected to the internet.

Quote: Originally posted by BoringAssAgreement
2. Intellectual Property Rights and Ownership.


A. Don't copy the game, don't pirate it, EA owns the game and you'd better remember it. It actually says that: you're not allowed to make the game look as if it weren't made by EA.

B. 1. You can download online content through the Launcher.
B. 2. This is covered under the other terms of service. If you try to use someone else's stuff, EA may take away your EA account.
B. 3. When you upload stuff, you grant EA the right to use it, with no time limit or way to take it away. They can use or reproduce it as they please. They don't need to pay or credit you for this.
B. 4. Same as above, except for other users instead of EA.

Quote: Originally posted by BoringAssAgreement
3. Transfer.


If you want to give the game to someone else, you need to sell it and either give them all your data or destroy what you don't give them.

Quote: Originally posted by BoringAssAgreement
4. Consent to Collection and Use of Data.


EA and whoever else it's connected to may collect data on you and use it as long as it doesn't personally identify you.

Quote: Originally posted by BoringAssAgreement
5. Consent to Public Display of Data.


If you put data on the internet, EA may use it. See EA's privacy policy.

Quote: Originally posted by BoringAssAgreement
6. Termination.


If you don't comply with the terms of the agreement, EA will terminate it. Once they do that, you're not allowed to play the game anymore.

Quote: Originally posted by BoringAssAgreement
7. Limited Warranty on Recording Media.
THE LIMITED WARRANTY ON THE RECORDING MEDIA THAT ACCOMPANIES YOUR SOFTWARE IS FOUND IN THE APPLICABLE PRODUCT MANUAL THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED WITH YOUR SOFTWARE AND IS INCORPORATED HEREIN BY REFERENCE. THIS LIMITED WARRANTY GIVES YOU SPECIFIC LEGAL RIGHTS. YOU MAY ALSO HAVE ADDITIONAL RIGHTS UNDER APPLICABLE LOCAL LAW, WHICH VARY FROM JURISDICTION TO JURISDICTION.

The limited warranty is in your product manual, read it to learn your legal rights. Also, IS IN ALL CAPS FOR SOME REASON.

Quote: Originally posted by BoringAssAgreement
8. Disclaimer of Warranties.


Except for the limited warranty, Caveat Emptor. (Buyer Beware)

Quote: Originally posted by BoringAssAgreement
9. Limitation of Liability.


EA isn't at fault if you break something or if the software damages you in some way.

Quote: Originally posted by BoringAssAgreement
10. Limitation of Liability and Disclaimer of Warranties are Material Terms of this License.


You agree with Clause 9.

Quote: Originally posted by BoringAssAgreement
11. Severability and Survival.


If the license cannot be enforced under law or is illegal, the license will be amended.

Quote: Originally posted by BoringAssAgreement
12. U.S. Government Restricted Rights.


This applies only to people working in the U.S. Government.

Quote: Originally posted by BoringAssAgreement
13. Injunctive Relief.


If you breach the license, EA will take your money, but it won't find it sufficient. You agree to whatever it decides is punishment.

Quote: Originally posted by BoringAssAgreement
14. Governing Law.


The license is based on and governed by the laws of California. You agree to this unless EA says otherwise.

Quote: Originally posted by BoringAssAgreement
15. Export.

You cannot sell the game to other countries unless the government authorizes it.

Quote: Originally posted by BoringAssAgreement
16. Third Party Technology.


Acknowledgement of Cider for MAC users.

Quote: Originally posted by BoringAssAgreement
17. Entire Agreement.


This is the agreement, the entire agreement, and nothing but the agreement.


It doesn't look like EA can terminate your right to play the game unless you do something illegal. However, this doesn't cover online services or downloaded games. You got the wrong agreement.
Inventor
#10 Old 27th Feb 2014 at 2:44 AM
Thanks for deciphering the EULA, but the 3rd clause got me. We can't let anyone borrow the game without selling it? What if friend A is tight on cash but really wants the game so I give friend A the disk to install it? That's illegal?
Site Helper
#11 Old 27th Feb 2014 at 3:04 AM
It may or may not be illegal. All that we know is that it's against the EULA.
Mad Poster
#12 Old 27th Feb 2014 at 3:08 AM
Welp, I wonder how many people here have been made criminals by that then :X. Or at least EULA breakers.
Forum Resident
#13 Old 27th Feb 2014 at 8:38 AM
That's it! "EULA Breakers" is the name of my next Sim band!
Alchemist
#14 Old 27th Feb 2014 at 12:07 PM
Quote: Originally posted by sims 1
...want to play it and originI can't get origin to work off line without first going online And I want to buy all of the sims 3 things evuntaully


Well, I have almost all my expansions through Origin and I always play off-line. The only game I open Origin for is ME3 but Sims 3 works just fine with Origin off-line; doesn't even ask me to go on-line when I launch the game. Or maybe I just misunderstood something here.
Field Researcher
#15 Old 27th Feb 2014 at 12:33 PM
hey EA, come at me bro



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retired moderator
#16 Old 27th Feb 2014 at 1:36 PM
Every EULA I've ever read (okay skimmed) has mentioned that they can terminate the license at any time. That's... pretty standard.

If you think a big game company (even one as crappy as EA) will just suddenly shut down an offline game for millions of players, then I have a bridge to sell you...

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“Dude, suckin’ at something is the first step to being sorta good at something.”
Panquecas, panquecas e mais panquecas.
One Minute Ninja'd
#17 Old 27th Feb 2014 at 2:24 PM
Quote: Originally posted by HystericalParoxysm
If you think a big game company (even one as crappy as EA) will just suddenly shut down an offline game for millions of players, then I have a bridge to sell you...


Forget about selling bridges. From other threads here, it seems that stealing whole bridges is the new, in thing among the cool kids.
Forum Resident
#18 Old 27th Feb 2014 at 2:27 PM
Thats fine as long as that bridge isnt too far.
Top Secret Researcher
#19 Old 27th Feb 2014 at 3:00 PM
Quote: Originally posted by xxsoulfire123
Thanks for deciphering the EULA, but the 3rd clause got me. We can't let anyone borrow the game without selling it? What if friend A is tight on cash but really wants the game so I give friend A the disk to install it? That's illegal?

Yes, it is commonly referred to as software piracy.

TS2 and TS3: Where adult sims potty train their toddlers.
TS4: Where adult sims make Angry Poops.

Which game is made for the juvenile minded?
Top Secret Researcher
#20 Old 27th Feb 2014 at 4:33 PM
Quote: Originally posted by eskie227
Forget about selling bridges. From other threads here, it seems that stealing whole bridges is the new, in thing among the cool kids.


*sneaks up*

Hey, I stole the Golden Gate Bridge! *opens trenchcoat* See? But I gotta get it off my hands, I mean, do you know how many muscles it takes to carry this thing? And it can be yours for only 50 bucks! But we gotta keep this on the hush, y'know? Hey, come back! I'll throw in some oceanfront property in Kansas!
One Minute Ninja'd
#21 Old 27th Feb 2014 at 6:01 PM
Quote: Originally posted by hugbug993
*sneaks up*

Hey, I stole the Golden Gate Bridge! *opens trenchcoat* See? But I gotta get it off my hands, I mean, do you know how many muscles it takes to carry this thing? And it can be yours for only 50 bucks! But we gotta keep this on the hush, y'know? Hey, come back! I'll throw in some oceanfront property in Kansas!


Well, if you were a sim, you could carry the Golden Gate bridge up your ass without a single twinge.
Mad Poster
#22 Old 27th Feb 2014 at 7:26 PM
All Sims are goatse.
Mad Poster
#23 Old 27th Feb 2014 at 7:26 PM
how can they 'shut down' the game, exactly? as long as you have it you can still play it if you don't need an internet connection, right? it must means they won't sell it anymore or something.
Top Secret Researcher
#24 Old 27th Feb 2014 at 9:16 PM
Quote: Originally posted by christmas fear
how can they 'shut down' the game, exactly?

Well, they could shut down simport. In fact, they should!

TS2 and TS3: Where adult sims potty train their toddlers.
TS4: Where adult sims make Angry Poops.

Which game is made for the juvenile minded?
Test Subject
#25 Old 28th Feb 2014 at 9:13 AM
Quote: Originally posted by xxsoulfire123
Thanks for deciphering the EULA, but the 3rd clause got me. We can't let anyone borrow the game without selling it? What if friend A is tight on cash but really wants the game so I give friend A the disk to install it? That's illegal?


So my husband bought the game and gave it to me for Christmas. We broke the terms of tne license agreement already
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