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Instructor
#51 Old 4th Aug 2010 at 11:25 PM
Oh man ... I have some ... meshes ... that I downloaded from SS2. They're for men. I'd have to get rid of those. Maybe I should have two installations, one that's all family-friendly in case a kid wants to play or watch. There are a couple of kids I can think of who might.
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Mad Poster
#52 Old 5th Aug 2010 at 12:08 AM
There's also My Sims for children, thinking about getting that for my son.
Lab Assistant
#53 Old 5th Aug 2010 at 2:35 AM
Quote: Originally posted by StarlightBeauty

I am 13, so really I guess the only mistake was leaving the volume on when my sims woo-hoo'd. Talk about embarassing. :P


ha ha same here

especially bad when my dads in the room.....lol
Lab Assistant
#54 Old 5th Aug 2010 at 3:24 AM Last edited by Mihr : 5th Aug 2010 at 3:38 AM.
Generally?
I asked their parents (my aunts) how much their kids knew, if they had been given "the talk" yet (they had to be 13 and over to get my permission, no children allowed to play). The cousins that hadn't had the talk were the most likely to ruin my game in one way or another (or hoot and howl like animals at silly things such as sims taking baths or using the bathroom).

The cousins that had had the talk I would let play under very specific guidelines:
Play in your neighborhood (I made one specifically for them), get my attention if something makes you uncomfortable/you don't understand something and if I constantly hear the woo-hoo or fighting noises the game gets shut down.

It was equal parts explaining/enforcing consequences (Your sim dies or gets pregnant you can not reset or make a new family, you *must* play through the consequences. Dead sims/empty lot meant that they had to let someone else play) and keeping a 'clean' back up of my game. Barbie doll skins, but the censor disabled. When you teach a kid that their body is an evil thing to be hidden and ashamed of they grow up to be awkward adults.
Young adults (in the sense of teen agers 13-19) aren't porcelain dolls, they often times know more than they're given credit for. The sims is a fun game, but it can also be a good learning tool if you need a little help explaining the world to your kids. I wish my parents had been half as honest.

I actually only let them play The Sims 2 and The Sims 1. I'm too careful with my Sims 3 game.

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Good Question.
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Original Poster
#55 Old 24th Aug 2010 at 12:20 PM
I know I'm resurrecting this thread. Sorry!

Continuing my antics with my 11 year old nephew and 9 year old niece, yesterday produced even further embarrassments. This time my nephew had his friend round so I was being harassed from all corners. My niece created an ugly family of 5 (mom, dad, teen boy, girl child, female toddler) called the Huggabugga's (or something like that) with such droll names as potato (mom), nosepicker (the toddler), etc. My nephew wanted to kill them off by various methods. I familyfunded them with half a million so they could at least live their short lives in relative luxury and put them in an expensive villa. First we added two Bigfoots in a Box to the family, then we got the mom pregnant by aliens using Simblender. Having no patience to wait the 3 sims days for the alien/human baby to be born, my nephew found Paladin's assault rifle in the buy catalogue and promptly got the dad to shoot the mom. Grimmie turned up and my niece found it higly amusing when he got his mobile phone out. Then we aged the toddler to a teen, my nephew sent Bigfoot to one assault rifle placed at the rear of the house with the intention of shooting the teen, while he sent the teen to another assault rifle with the intention of shooting Bigfoot (just to see who got there first). The teen won and Bigfoot got the bullet. Then nephew found Paladin's incendiary bomb in the catalogue and tried that out, causing multiple fires in the front yard. Two further family members got burnt to death, leaving just the teen boy and child. Then the teen caught fire and burnt to ashes too, leaving just the child. I said to them "watch out, the social worker will come now for the child", which she did. All in all they found it highly amusing. I didn't save the game though, just in case they want to try other crazy stunts when I next visit.

My nephew wanted to try the baby grill so I located it and placed it in a household with a baby. I then went to select the mother to grill the baby, who was in the background somewhere painting. When I zoomed in on her she was painting stark naked, so quickly panned away, much to my nephew and his friend's delight! When I said "oh my god, she's naked", my nephew's friend couldn't jump to look quick enough. For some reason there was no option to grill the baby anyway, so thankfully they never got to witness that.

So I thought I'd made my game child-friendly by removing ACR, but forgot to add back the censor blur (plus a couple of sim interactions on the menu of an adult nature, which my nephew also noticed with keen interest).

Anyway, I think they've just had their first sex lesson. Oops.
Top Secret Researcher
#56 Old 24th Aug 2010 at 1:09 PM
Sex would be the last of my concerns when it comes to a Nephew who is highly amused with acts of violence.
Test Subject
#57 Old 24th Aug 2010 at 1:32 PM
Imma thirteen-years-old and I have a seven-years-old brother that likes to reporting to my father when he seeing a Sim nude/with bikinis/with underwears. No, I don't install that nudity thing, I'm not crazy, but he still reports EVEN IF IT'S JUST PIXEL NUDITY. One thing to remember, never let him see me! LOL =))
Test Subject
#58 Old 24th Aug 2010 at 1:47 PM
Wow..funny stories you got.I am 12.And i don't play with younger family members because they live in a different town.Although my 11-year old cousin loves to see when the Sims are wohoo-ing .i don't have any adult stuff.except some lingerie that i have in everyday category. the family my cousin made looked like a couple of strippers.And he put his wife romance aspiration.And he put himself as a family Sim.

TIP:If you are playing with a family member just go to the camera options and disable special event camera and when the sims are doing it just got a different part of the house (IN THE SIMS) and pretend that you are admiring the interior design of the kitchen or something....(works for me)

It is nice to meet a person who can afford a million second chances but sticks to the firs one.
Mad Poster
#59 Old 24th Aug 2010 at 1:49 PM
I'm glad my son is back in school. Now I don't have to put the walls up (I play with them down, just the walls around the perimeter are up) when my Sims WooHoo. He knows I'm trying to hide something from him, so if I can't distract him, I put the walls up and turn the volume down.
Theorist
#60 Old 24th Aug 2010 at 2:24 PM
That's two more for the graveyard.
Inventor
#61 Old 24th Aug 2010 at 2:54 PM
Quote: Originally posted by Nalia
Sex would be the last of my concerns when it comes to a Nephew who is highly amused with acts of violence.


I agree with that completely. I have a 12 year old daughter and she knows I play TS2 with no censor blur and realistic skins, I do not try to hide it from her. When she wants to play, I just take out my downloads folder and let her play her neighborhood. All she ever wants to do is build and decorate anyway but I have too many adult mods to let her have free reign of the computer with those in my game. :P

kittens!
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Original Poster
#62 Old 24th Aug 2010 at 3:09 PM
Quote: Originally posted by Nalia
Sex would be the last of my concerns when it comes to a Nephew who is highly amused with acts of violence.


Oh he only does it for a giggle. He's mature and intelligent enough to realise it's just a bit of pixel violence and means nothing. Actually he's far from aggressive in real life, enjoys chess and swimming!

Look at "Tom and Jerry", for example - highly violent when you think about it yet no parents ever complained when we watched that as kids and neither did we turn out to be axe-murderers.
Lab Assistant
#63 Old 24th Aug 2010 at 7:05 PM Last edited by funcioná!!! : 24th Aug 2010 at 7:22 PM.
I don't understand why people download "adult" content, as they like to call it. It would scare me to see what you describe, even if I am 17. I downloaded the censor remover and I didn't like it, I had to put the walls up everytime the sims took a shower, even if I haven't got custom skins. And it takes like 10 seconds to zoom out, so my parents could enter the room and have wrong ideas. So I disabled it. The only content for mature people that I have is the teen hack, but I think it's not as inapropriate as others things that you mention. I don't consider the sims having babies when they are teens such an irresponsable thing as in real life.

The first time I made my sims "try for baby", I didn't know how to turn the cinematics off. My computer was in the living room and my older and only brother started laughing and saying things when he saw the animation. I was afraid that my parents would see it, but they still don't know that sims can "WooHoo".
When my cousin, who is 8, comes to my house and wants to plays The Sims 2, I watch everything he does in the game, but he's not really interested in making a partner for his sim.
A few days ago, I was creating a sim and my brother entered the room. As I was looking for an outfit for a sim woman, my brother saw an underwear in the everyday cathegory and told me to put it on the sim. I felt embarassed, because the underwear was a little too small.

What did I do wrong?
Inventor
#64 Old 24th Aug 2010 at 7:26 PM
You don't have to understand it. You say letting teens have babies in your game is cool because that seems like real life, well for me having the mods I do in my game makes it more realistic for me. I'm a grown woman in my 30's so playing a game that is coded for children is not interesting to me. I don't actually care about seeing naked sims but having them covered up like it's something to be ashamed of is silly to me. I completely appreciate that it had to be coded that way to make it marketable to teens but I'm not a teen. Like I said earlier, though, I am a mother to a pre-teen and I don't have any issue with her seeing my game the way it is but she's more comfortable when she plays having the censor blur and so it's best for both of us to just take out my downloads folder since that's not the only adult mod I have in my game.

kittens!
Lab Assistant
#65 Old 24th Aug 2010 at 7:56 PM
[QUOTE=wickedblue]You say letting teens have babies in your game is cool because that seems like real life, well for me having the mods I do in my game makes it more realistic for me.QUOTE]

I didn't say that. I think it's okay because it's not real life. I think that in real life teens shouldn't do adult things.
I just think that some "adult" mods that people describe are just another type of pornography, which I'm against. But I respect your opinion.

What did I do wrong?
Inventor
#66 Old 24th Aug 2010 at 8:03 PM
I misread that sentence, thanks for the clarification.

And there's a huge difference between nudity and pornography. That's all I'm going to say about it before this devolves into an off-topic debate.

kittens!
Lab Assistant
#67 Old 24th Aug 2010 at 8:12 PM
[QUOTE=wickedblue

And there's a huge difference between nudity and pornography. QUOTE]

I wasn't talking about censor removers, that's not pornography. I was talking about hacked WooHoo or things like that. When I searched the censor remover on Google, there was a site that had a description of pornographic hacks, so I didn't even entered that site. That's what I meant.

What did I do wrong?
Mad Poster
#68 Old 24th Aug 2010 at 8:32 PM
I'm 37 and the stuff you find at SexySims is not for me (I'm Mrs. Crumplebottom but without the purse and the attitude). Just the blankets moving around is good enough.

I did show my mother (who was visiting) how they can WooHoo in the photobooth...and she was like, "Let's see that again!" LOL
Test Subject
#69 Old 24th Aug 2010 at 8:33 PM
I'm not a parent, and I usually don't play video games around my younger siblings or other family members in the first place unless I'm playing with them.

That being said, a lot of family computers, especially those running Windows XP or higher (or the Mac OS X equivalent), have multiple user accounts. Since My Documents\EA Games\Sims 2 is localised to specific users, it's possible to just have separate downloads folders, one per user account. So, your user account can have a downloads folder filled with even the most horrifically pornographic objects, and your child's/sibling's/cousin's account wouldn't have access to it unless they downloaded it themselves. It also works for other games, too; you can enter your younger family members' profile(s) and delete Start Menu icons for more bloody, gruesome, or otherwise inappropriate games such as Grand Theft Auto, Postal, Doom, etc. while retaining those icons on your own profile, or installing only for your user account (an increasing number of programs have that feature in their installers).

As for others overlooking, if I hear someone approaching, I generally ALT-TAB out of my game and go on Facebook for awhile until they clear out. I'm really shy when it comes to playing video games around others, especially if they're just watching and not actually participating with me. It makes me nervous and I stop thinking, and ultimately do only half as well when actually playing. So I've been in the habit of only playing games late at night, when everyone is asleep.
Test Subject
#70 Old 24th Aug 2010 at 8:37 PM
Well, not much to say about stuff in my game that should be removed when having a younger child around, as I don't really download stuff like that, but what I want to say is that, really I don't find the sims 2 that bad for kids. After all I think I was ten when I got the original sims game, and eleven when I got the sims2. I'd already heard pretty bad stuff about 'adult' things by then (heard about what really was sex when I was in grade three, found out from a friend the same age no less) so it didn't really phase me when I found out the woohoo button (was playing a family sim at the time and they wanted a baby.)I found the whole thing funny actually and laughed qutie a bit. A mistake I mgiht have made though, was showing the game to my brother who was nine at the time. But he turned otu alright.
Lab Assistant
#71 Old 24th Aug 2010 at 9:00 PM
Quote: Originally posted by jodemilo
Look at "Tom and Jerry", for example - highly violent when you think about it yet no parents ever complained when we watched that as kids and neither did we turn out to be axe-murderers.


You mean it's not normal to be an axe-murderer?

I played with my cousin once, who is 13 - I'm only a few months older than her. She was so offended by censored nudity that she told her mother about it, who was also offended and told my mom, who replied with "It's blurred, isn't it? What's the big deal?". I don't even want to know what would happen if she saw them woo-hooing. My rule: Don't play sims with her. At all.
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#72 Old 24th Aug 2010 at 10:05 PM
My feeling when introducing kids to the facts of life or playing "violent" stuff with cartoon characters is that a little information does no harm - it even makes them somewhat more streetwise than if they'd been completely wrapped up in cotton wool and cushioned against stuff they no doubt will want to explore when they're older, in their own time (talking the sex side of things rather than the violence). I too am sensitive enough to realise when one could possibly be crossing the line with a child, but the fact that my sister's children have an intelligent view of such matters and sense of what is morally ok and what isn't certainly helps. A healthy dose of good humour when dealing with sexual matters I think reassures them that it is stuff which they know they are too young to get involved in (and neither are they interested), but they know that things like nudity are not bad things nor something to be ashamed of.

Re the "violent fun" my nephew was engaging in with my sims (which lasted all of 20 minutes before he went back to his friend to play online chess - and let's face it you never see any blood, merely sims jumping around like idiots), it also helps that these particular kids have very good imaginations (both their parents are in the film industry and they're encouraged to be creative with photography, video, art, etc and therefore are fully aware of what is real and what is fantasy). It's all unreal harmless fun and they know that. I mean, as an adult I love George A Romero's zombie movies, and even can sit through modern slasher films and although I grimace I know it's all fake and I don't wake up with nightmares or want to go on a violent rampage chopping up people.

(PS - the above wasn't aimed at you socherish - just felt like spouting off!)
Lab Assistant
#73 Old 25th Aug 2010 at 12:10 AM
Personally as today goes 11 year olds are thinking about sex. I am 20 and when I hit 6th grade in 2006 everyone was talking about hooking up. I was into barbies and american girl dolls. People tell me I am too old to playing the sims cause its for fantasy and kids. As for not showing woohoo they can read the want when a sim gets it.

I remember when a girl in the 7th grade? Or 8th? Didnt know a sexual act everyone made fun of her. I like it when kids are innocent but all of you would be surprised by what kids know today. When my brother was 4 he played and my brother is 15 he played earlier last yr and have babies and all. He knew about woohoo. We never had the talk and when I was 7 I knew something happened. Cant type on cell phone!

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#74 Old 25th Aug 2010 at 4:31 AM
When all I had was Sims 1, I would let my kids play my game...they had their own neighborhood. But now that everyone has their own computer, I never let my daughter anywhere near my game...she got Sims 2 and several EPs last Christmas. I don't have much in the way of adult content...a few decorative nude paintings is about it...so that's not really the issue...I'd be really upset if someone did something stupid and screwed up my game.

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Instructor
#75 Old 25th Aug 2010 at 6:51 AM
Quote: Originally posted by socherish
You mean it's not normal to be an axe-murderer?


Oh GOD you made my day.

Back on topic (well.. semi-on topic.)

I play my game for the more realistic point of view, so I've downloaded quite alot of things to add to that. Nothing THAT terrible, but enough for me to have to run to remove a few choice hacks from the copy of my downloads I gave my younger sister (she recently re-installed TS2 on her laptop, and was too lazy to download her own things).

Only problem is I couldn't locate my censor remover so I had to leave her with that.
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