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So, what are your thoughts? Do you like it when clothes are enabled for townies? If so, what sort of clothes (casual, contemporary, themed, so on)?
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That rarely ever happens and if it does, then so what, I don't really mind. I do appreciate you taking downloaders' opinions though, and good luck with whatever you choose to create and share with us!
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As a new creator, I've become genuinely interested to know what other downloaders' thoughts are when it comes to clothes. Specifically, should clothes ever be townified? Personally, I'd rather townify clothes myself when I download them from others, since I may not want it to spawn on just anyone in the populace, nor do I know if I'll even want to keep it in my game for awhile. It's just a simple edit to the flags in SimPE, or I suppose you can use the Wardrobe Wrangler. Still, I wonder if others prefer items townified for them. So, what are your thoughts? Do you like it when clothes are enabled for townies? If so, what sort of clothes (casual, contemporary, themed, so on)? Thanks for any responses to this. |
I'm not a creator so I can't say much on that regard. However, I can totally agree that a lot of the times I want specific outfits for specifically themed sims, and it would be a bummer to see something like X Townie wearing Spunky Morgan's steampunk dresses (my steampunk sim). I'd rather they not be Townified, personally.
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I'm still debating on whether I want to release some of the clothes projects I'm currently working on (basically passing time 'til next month, since my budget should let me purchase Milkshape then). But thanks for the best wishes, BeckyBoo8.
Your illustration of your steampunk 'hood, rinarunine, reminded me of when I downloaded some medieval clothes. I didn't realize they had already been townified, and in fact, they were enabled for Outerwear. I thought they'd be fun costumes or something. Well, I happened to start a new 'hood when they were in, and what do you know? Nearly every Townie that spawned thought chainmail and robes made fantastic outerwear. I suppose they're just eccentric, considering it was intended to be a modern 'hood. But since then, I've been more careful about checking out whether downloads were townified.
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts, BeckyBoo8 and rinarunine. I'm still debating on whether I want to release some of the clothes projects I'm currently working on (basically passing time 'til next month, since my budget should let me purchase Milkshape then). But thanks for the best wishes, BeckyBoo8. Your illustration of your steampunk 'hood, rinarunine, reminded me of when I downloaded some medieval clothes. I didn't realize they had already been townified, and in fact, they were enabled for Outerwear. I thought they'd be fun costumes or something. Well, I happened to start a new 'hood when they were in, and what do you know? Nearly every Townie that spawned thought chainmail and robes made fantastic outerwear. I suppose they're just eccentric, considering it was intended to be a modern 'hood. But since then, I've been more careful about checking out whether downloads were townified. |
It's great if you totally *want* a themed neighborhood. ALL STEAMPUNK ALL THE TIME. But it's hilarious when my "unique" and strange sims go to a bar and a werewolf's wearing her exact same lolita outfit. Like. What happened there, guys.
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Guess the barhopping werewolf just wasn't feeling special enough. |
On the contrary, I'm sure she was feeling quite the beautiful frilly catch that evening.
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I prefer not see the whole town wearing the same clothes as my sims, what they wear is how I recognize them on community lots so the sims I'm playing can seek them out and become friends.
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If they are just normal cc, then I'd like them to be untownified.
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I think there's a big distinction between costume/period clothing and stuff that's intended for everyday wear. I download a lot of very everyday clothing, and it would honestly make my life a lot easier if the townies spawned with more of it, so that I didn't have to bother making them over so often. A huge part of my issue, though, is social group townies. I hate, hate, HATE that social group townies only spawn with that tiny collection of clothes from Apartment Life. None of it is bad clothing in my book, it's just such a small collection! I wonder if there's a way for creators to enabled clothing for social group townies, or if it would have to be done on the other end, say, through a mod that enables social group townies to pick clothes from the main wardrobe selection.
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My female sims are like all women, they are horrified if they go somewhere and see another sims wearing the same outfit as them. |
I beg to differ. I'm a woman and I couldn't care less if someone else is wearing the same outfit as me.
I beg to differ. I'm a woman and I couldn't care less if someone else is wearing the same outfit as me. |
Haven't got a problem with this, either. Couldn't care less, in fact. Mostly because I'll wear it better than them, anyway. Because I'm awesome that way.
As to the original question, I don't think clothes should be townified by default, no. I think that should be up to the downloader, especially because it's ridiculously simple to townify for yourself if you want something townified.
As for default replacements, I believe if it's default-replacing something Maxis, it's townified by default given that Maxis stuff is all townified by default.
Edit @ EmeraldFalcon: The standard townies, including the social ones, always wear the same outfits by default. To change this, you either need to default-replace those particular outfits with something else or, if it's possible/safe to do so (and I have no idea if it is), go into the template files and change the outfits they generate in.
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I'm not talking about standard townies, though (at least not what I think you mean by standard townies). I hid my stealth neighborhoods so my game didn't generate any of the social group townies on the wiki (such as Rose Dai, for example); my game made all new social group townies. They still generate using that same limited set of outfits from Apartment Life. |
I imagine that's because the templates for the various kinds of social townies are set that way so, to change it, like I said, you either need to default-replace the outfits (although they'll still only generate with the outfits assigned to their "type," at least they'll be different outfits) or change the templates somehow which, like I said, I don't know is possible.
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I'd say either give people the choice, or upload non-towniefied clothes. It's a lot easier to townify than it is to de-townify. Same with geneticized skins and eyes, which are in the same category. They're a real pain when they show up randomly, and they're even worse to get rid of.
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Of course I know I can't please anyone, nor am I necessarily trying to. (I'm not exactly a clothes creator.) It was more of a curiosity and thoughts to consider if, in the future, I decide to upload clothes.
But now I'm curious if I've been doing something incorrectly. Several of you mention how hard it is to make something unavailable for townies. I always thought it was a simple edit of the flags under the Property Set file in SimPE, or the Skintone XML if you're editing a skintone. I just changed the flag from 8 to 0 if I wanted it townified, or changed it back to an 8 when I didn't want it to spawn (such as those novelty clothes that overran my 'hood). Is there something wrong with doing it that way, or is it just that most people don't like to edit files in SimPE? Just curious, since many of you have played the game longer than I have.
Edit: After rereading simmer22's post, I think I misunderstood about how it's more difficult to "un"townify clothing or genetics. Yes, it is a pain to have to clean up afterwards, although not quite as much of a pain when deciding to change your game's aesthetics.
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But I think that clothes are townie available by default anyway.
The most annoying thing is non-binned facial hair being townified. It looks stupid when my black haired sim is wandering around with a blonde beard.
Oh, and untuckable pants when they spawn with non-untuckable tops
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Oh, and untuckable pants when they spawn with non-untuckable tops |
But I thought that was the height of fashion. You know, see how low your pants can hang. Brings more attention to you. It's very classy.
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