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The ModFather
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#1 Old 4th Nov 2006 at 7:05 PM Last edited by tiggerypum : 24th Dec 2006 at 3:25 AM. Reason: bodyshop patch released!
PETS owners: How to create BodyShop recolours compatible with older games.
PETS owners: How to create BodyShop recolours compatible with older games (using the "BaseGameStarter")

Bodyshop patch Released. This procedure should no longer be necessary, although info remains in case you need it. Go get the patch here: http://thesims2.ea.com/help/index.php?pid=Help

As discussed in THIS THREAD, several BodyShop items (namely, recolours of clothings and hairstyles, but possibly other BS stuff) created with the PETS BodyShop are not compatible with older games.

On the other hand, BS items created with older games are compatible with Pets.

In order to create a recolour that will work with any game, I suggest to use the new "Legacy BodyShop" included in the BaseGameStarter.
This special verson of the BodyShop includes all the EPs that you have installed, except Pets. This way, you can create BodyShop stuff as if Pets is not installed, without actually uninstalling Pets.

All the instructions for the Legacy BodyShop are explained in the BaseGameStarter thread, but for simplicity sake I'll sum up here the relefůvant info that may interest BodyShoppers.
  1. Download the BaseGameStarter, extract the installer from the zip and run it by double-clicking on the executable.
  2. In the first Option panel, select "Legacy BodyShop" (deselect all the other options if you are not interested).



  3. Skip the second options panel, just click "Next".
  4. On the thirs Option panel, leave the default options:



  5. Let the installer run its tasks, and you'll get a new icon "Start Legacy BodyShop" on your desktop: whenever you double-click it, the BodyShop will run ignoring the Pets EP, but including all the other EPs that you own.
    Anything you create with this BodyShop will not suffer from the problems created by Pets.

IMPORTANT NOTES
  • When you run the Legacy BodyShop, all the sims-related windows must be closed, and be sure that the game, SimPE or HomeCrafter are not running.
  • The Legacy BodyShop runs in a save folder of its own ("The Sims 2 - LBS"), that is completely autonomous from your main save-game folder ("The Sims 2").
    Therefore, you have to manually copy the packages created with the LegacyBS to your main game, if you want to see them in the CAS. And the opposite, too: if you want to recolour a custom clothing, you have to copy it from your main game to the LBS folder, before starting the LegacyBS.


EDIT
What explained above will help you creating new BodyShop content compliant with all games.
In order to FIX packages already created with the Pets-BodyShop, follow the tutorial by Marvine & Beosboxboy HERE

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#2 Old 13th Nov 2006 at 1:11 AM
I just wanted to say thanks and let you know this is very appreciated. :*)

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#3 Old 13th Nov 2006 at 7:02 PM
thanks you so much for this
now i can made clothes to upload again
thanks
Lab Assistant
#4 Old 15th Nov 2006 at 2:49 AM
Thanks! I've been having problems with Bodyshop a lot since Pets. Hopefully this will fix it!
Field Researcher
#5 Old 16th Nov 2006 at 7:10 PM
Numenor, this is GENIUS! I'd recommend Legacy BodyShop to every skinner, not just those with Pets. The ability to copy over and work with only the skins/meshes you want to for that session is such a relief! With the (probably) thousands of clothing textures, etc., that I have in my game (all of mine, plus so many others'), BodyShop was taking soooo long to load. LegacyBS opens in seconds!

I am thoroughly thrilled with it!

Thank you, thank you, thank you!
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#6 Old 17th Nov 2006 at 12:16 AM
Mmmhh... So, I gues you wouldn't agree with my idea to make the LegacyBS run in the same folder as the normal "main" game, right? You know, some people are confused or annoyed because they need to copy the "raw materials" in the Legacy folder, and then copy back the "finished products"...

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Lab Assistant
#7 Old 17th Nov 2006 at 10:00 AM
can i please know, right when i installed legacy body shop it removed my custom content? well i decided i want my custom content back and to remove legacy, how do i do that? i removed all the folders but when i open regular bodyshop my stuff is goine! how do i fix this?

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Field Researcher
#8 Old 17th Nov 2006 at 11:24 AM Last edited by Hairfish : 17th Nov 2006 at 11:44 AM.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Numenor
Mmmhh... So, I gues you wouldn't agree with my idea to make the LegacyBS run in the same folder as the normal "main" game, right?

Can we have it both ways? I mean, a choice...

Personally, I feel that EA's way ~ loading every single Sim-related file you have ~ is a terrible waste of time. People could just copy the custom meshes and skins they work with a lot, and leave those copies in the working folder. Then they'd only have to move the new files back to the playing folder.

Or won't leaving copies in there work?? LBS won't delete them when it closes, will it? (I admit, I was so excited by the speedy load and quick browsing through the thumbnails, that I didn't do a thorough investigation of the idea.)
[edit] I answered my own question in less than a minute: No, it will not delete the copied files. They're right where I left them, in:
...\My Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2 - LBS\SavedSims
[/edit]

nnvp1, I hope you did not remove those folders with LBS running!

The names of the folders are changed temporarily while LBS is running. You should find your downloads in the \Downloads folder, inside the folder named \The Sims 2 - FullGame, as long as LBS is running.

Once you close LBS, that folder is renamed back to \The Sims 2, so you can play.
Lab Assistant
#9 Old 17th Nov 2006 at 2:18 PM
thanks ill try it, i didnt delete them while tey were running

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Scholar
#10 Old 19th Nov 2006 at 6:07 AM
I also prefer the way it is, with the separate folders so I can have only the meshes I want to work with and not have to go through so much stuff.

But I can see where some people might prefer to have it use the same folders as the main game.

I wanted to add a tip for people using this - your graphics editor will also "lock" the folders and make it impossible for the program to rename them properly if you leave it running when you quit BodyShop so be sure to close it BEFORE you exit from BodyShop.
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#11 Old 19th Nov 2006 at 6:25 PM Last edited by Numenor : 19th Nov 2006 at 6:31 PM.
Good point, Dr Pixel, I didn't think of the chance that the graphic editor could be left running while closing the LegacyBS...

As for the choice between running the LegacyBS in a separate folder or in the main one, I was thinking... What about running the LegacyBS in a separate folder, like now, but - when the legacyBS is closed - automatically copying *all* the files in the legacy SavedSims, Downloads and Projects to the corresponding "fullgame" folder? You might think that overwriting the files in the fullgame folder is not a good idea, but if you would run the Pets bodyshop, your modification would overwrite the originals anyway, right?

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Field Researcher
#12 Old 19th Nov 2006 at 9:49 PM
Please forgive me if this is a senseless question, but couldn't I just use my OFB body shop to recolor my things? Would that also cause a conflict? I'm new to recoloring but it was suggested to me to use the OFB or Nightlife body shop. I've recolored many clothes and don't want to redo them. Thank you so much.

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Test Subject
#13 Old 19th Nov 2006 at 11:27 PM
Quote:
but couldn't I just use my OFB body shop to recolor my things?


If I understand S2 and Bodyshop correctly, every time you install a new exp the body shop is changed along with it, so you can't have OFB Bodyshop with Pets. Of course I could be talking complete and utter codswallop, as I can't even run Nightlife properly on my computer, never mind anything later than that!
Field Researcher
#14 Old 20th Nov 2006 at 12:36 AM
Ok I managed to get everything running, copied over all my sims 2 meshes from the saved sims folder in my main game to the downloads folder in the LBS folder, but only about 6 hair meshes are showing up in total. When only about 6 hair meshes showed up, I remembered the old issue of not everything in downloads actually shows up in BS for some reason so I created a savedsims folder in the LBS folder and moved all my hair meshes over (about 150 or so) and I still get the same issue, about 6 meshes show up in all female age groups. Most of the hairs I have were not created with Uni or above according to the artists so in theory the meshes should be showing up. Am I doing something wrong here? Please help if you can. Thanks! :*)

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#15 Old 20th Nov 2006 at 8:57 AM
OMG! i went back to my folders and under ea is the sims 2 folder. fine right? then when i press sims 2 all i get is collections , logs, downloads and teleport?!!!! wheres my games!! wheres my 2 YEARS of downloading stuff! this can't happen! *freaks out*

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Lab Assistant
#16 Old 20th Nov 2006 at 5:11 PM
I've been able to get the Legacy Bodyshop to work (thank you *so* much), and I've read the posts on how to fix clothing/accessories/skin tones made with the Pets Bodyshop so they are compatible with older EPs... but is there a way to make Sims that were packaged with the Pets Bodyshop compatible? I had a custom Sim whose face I spent a lot of time perfecting before I knew there were problems with Pets, and I'm really hoping there's some way that it will still be usable. The custom content on the Sim (hair/brows/skin tone) are all from pre-Pets, and those transfer over to the Legacy Bodyshop just fine, but I can't get the actual Sim with the new facial structure to show up, even using Clean Installer. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated!

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The ModFather
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#17 Old 20th Nov 2006 at 10:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nnvp1
OMG! i went back to my folders and under ea is the sims 2 folder. fine right? then when i press sims 2 all i get is collections , logs, downloads and teleport?!!!! wheres my games!! wheres my 2 YEARS of downloading stuff! this can't happen! *freaks out*


No, this can't happen, don't worry
The BaseGameStarter NEVER deletes anything, so your game is still there for sure.

First off, run the "Repair Installation", by double clicking on the icon createdby the installer (it's the one with the "HELP" text )
If you have no errors, then the repair was successful: your game is again in the folder "The Sims 2".

If you get an error, read it: it will give you instructions for solving the problems.

Important: before running the Repair routine, close all the running programs (SimPE, BodyShop, the Sims ecc...)



Shadylady - I'm sorry, I'm not experienced enough to suggest a solution. It's the first time that I read about a pets-created sim that doesn't appear at all in the Legacy BodyShop...

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Field Researcher
#18 Old 21st Nov 2006 at 1:00 AM
Well, thanks anyway. It is just that I have recolored over 50 clothing items plus some eyes and other genetics. I did not want to go through 80 files changing each one. I was hoping that it was true about using another Body Shop. I deleted my Pets Body Shop and opened up the one from the OFB file. I only wanted to know if my clothes and other items would now work for people without PETS.

Like I said, I'm new to recoloring but I've devoloped a serious case of recoloring bug. Anyone that can help me with this question, I would be eternally grateful!! If I have to install the Legacy BodyShop for them to show up I definitely will. Thanks

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Field Researcher
#19 Old 21st Nov 2006 at 2:33 AM
Sky, try installing the basegamestarter. You can install a game that loads very quickly and you check to see if your items show up in a non-pets ep.

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#20 Old 21st Nov 2006 at 2:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lucentgem
Sky, try installing the basegamestarter. You can install a game that loads very quickly and you check to see if your items show up in a non-pets ep.

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Lab Assistant
#21 Old 22nd Nov 2006 at 10:01 AM
huh? you dont get it , when i openes legacy , my downloads were gone right? so i look for them and they wernrt there! so i deleted ALL the legacy files hoping it would be there than is wasnt!then when i press sims 2 all i get is collections , logs, downloads and teleport?!!!!

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#22 Old 22nd Nov 2006 at 12:29 PM
NNVP1: what folders do you have now in your (documents)\EA Games folder?

If you have a folder named "The Sims 2 - FullGame", then all of your downloads (and the neighborhoods, the families etc.) are there.
If you DON'T have a folder named "The Sims 2 - FullGame", but you have some folders named "The Sims 2 - CHECK_nn" or "Foldernn" (where nn is a two-digit number), look into them, in search of your "Full" game.

You can recognize your "full" game folder because:
1) the folder contains a small file named "FullGame.id"
2) the folder contains a huge Downloads folder, with all the stuff you have downloaded in the last two years
3) the folder contains a huge "Neighborhood" folder, with all the neighborhood you have played in the last two years.

Again, the BaseGameStarter only renames the folders, it *never* deletes anything. And I'm sure you can't possibly have deleted by mistake a folder named "The Sims 2" or "The Sims 2 - FullGame". So, your "Full" game is still there, you just have to find it.

If you want me to help you, then zip the entire "BaseGameStarter" folder and post it here.

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#23 Old 22nd Nov 2006 at 1:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shadylady482
I've been able to get the Legacy Bodyshop to work (thank you *so* much), and I've read the posts on how to fix clothing/accessories/skin tones made with the Pets Bodyshop so they are compatible with older EPs... but is there a way to make Sims that were packaged with the Pets Bodyshop compatible? I had a custom Sim whose face I spent a lot of time perfecting before I knew there were problems with Pets, and I'm really hoping there's some way that it will still be usable. The custom content on the Sim (hair/brows/skin tone) are all from pre-Pets, and those transfer over to the Legacy Bodyshop just fine, but I can't get the actual Sim with the new facial structure to show up, even using Clean Installer. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated!


If you can find the file for your Sim, you could probably extract its face data in SimPE and replace the face on another Sim that does show up...
Field Researcher
#24 Old 22nd Nov 2006 at 7:42 PM
I don't suppose anyone has an answer for my question above? I would really appreciate it if you did. I'm sorry, I'm not trying to bump, it just seems that everyone has been addressed here with the exception of my question and I was figuring that to be an oversight. Thanks. :*)

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Field Researcher
#25 Old 22nd Nov 2006 at 9:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lucentgem
...so I created a savedsims folder in the LBS folder and moved all my hair meshes over (about 150 or so) and I still get the same issue, about 6 meshes show up in all female age groups.

Are you sure you copied/moved at least one texture for every mesh? Are you looking in every color bin?

Just a wild guess...
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