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Old 14th Oct 2009, 05:14 AM DefaultBatman Villans: The Joker #1
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I have been working on this sim for months upon months now, and I think he is finally ready to see the light of day. Can you tell its him? I mean, after looking at him for so long, I cant tell.

I intend for him to be the Joker,as seen in the title, but his face is really, really hard to sculpt. So, let me know what you guys think, what needs changed, what imperfections do you see?

I am focused on his face scupt but the skin is by me, blended with one by HIM666. Is he too tan? The circles to light/dark?

I am having trouble his nose profile, any suggestions?

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I made his teeth yellow and I will post a picture of that next time I load the game.

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Old 14th Oct 2009, 07:01 AM #2
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Good Start. You need a facemask though.

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Old 14th Oct 2009, 09:32 AM #3
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It's hard to tell because the screenshots of the sim are so small and dark, but it looks like his eyes need to tilt down and to be narrower, his chin needs to be a bit less long in profile, his nose needs to be a bit less long and the tip maybe rotated down just a touch. It would be easier to give advice if the pics were larger and if you put a pic of the real Heath looking forwards side by side with your sim's pic (not a 'split' pic with the two faces merged together). Good start though!
Old 14th Oct 2009, 03:09 PM #4
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Sorry, I completely forgot about the horrible bodyshop lighting. Here are some better pictures, and he is wearing a face mask, does it need work?

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The first picture is without the face mask.

Esmerelda, do you still have the same suggestions? I figured the light might change somethings, let me know and I will update.
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Old 14th Oct 2009, 03:50 PM #5
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The lower part of his jaw isn't wide enough. He has a very low and very wide jaw. The outside corners of his eyes need to be tilted down more and his eyes need to be less wide and a bit more squinty. I think his eyes are too large in general, actually. Once you take their size down see if you need the above changes. They'll also need to be a bit closer, I think. And his mouth is like 1 or 2 clicks too wide. I also think his face might be a tad too long.
Old 14th Oct 2009, 04:19 PM #6
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That's a lot easier to see now! I think the length of his chin is OK now that I see it better, but I do still think what I said about his eyes still applies, and nose tip still needs to come in and down a bit. Also as SWC says above, his jaw does need to be wider and maybe his face needs to be a bit less long - it will be easier to tell when he has his jaw widened.
Old 14th Oct 2009, 04:20 PM #7
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his nose tip needs to be rotated downwards..... And just to clarify, are you making HL, and the Joker, or just HL as the joker?

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Old 14th Oct 2009, 06:48 PM #8
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Heath as the Joker. I wanted to get a decent face shape before I added the ace paint. When I do make the changes, I will post a picture with the paint because I know that changes how he looks.
Old 15th Oct 2009, 05:03 AM #9
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if you want you can use the facial structure from my joker.

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Old 15th Oct 2009, 09:46 PM #10
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Good luck, he's lookng great!

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Old 16th Oct 2009, 05:38 AM #11
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Here is an updated version, I haven;t gotten to the face paint yet, that shoudl be this weekend. But I made the above suggestions, what do you think? Also, does anyone know how I can fix that weird indent abouve his nose without changing how his face looks? (See profile picture)
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Old 16th Oct 2009, 06:19 AM #12
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i'd just alter the skins texture.

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Old 16th Oct 2009, 07:18 AM #13
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hmm, tilt the eyes very slightly to the outsides of the face, and puff up the cheeks just a tad. it's a good start though.

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Old 16th Oct 2009, 08:08 PM #14
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So far, pretty good. Even though I wouldn't call this The Joker, even with facepaint. But I greatly prefer the version prtrayed by Mark Hamill. Otherwise, very good, although I personally would invest in some CC eyebrows with this one.

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Old 16th Oct 2009, 08:14 PM #15
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I agree with the Mark Hamill comment, but I think you can do a great job with this one, regardless. Tons of people disagree with me!

Anyway, I think his face needs to be a bit wider and a bit shorter.
Old 16th Oct 2009, 10:19 PM #16
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I know, Mark Hamill will always be my first Mr. J! But, I did enjoy the very realistic portrayal that he and Nolan pulled off, I have been waiting for a dark version of Batman, and though the others were dark, this was black.
Old 17th Oct 2009, 01:48 AM #17
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well, the original joker in the 30's was pretty freakin dark. and he actually did some pretty messed up things in the 80's comics, I love Hamill's portrayal (he's one of the best voice actors ever, but Ledger captured the joker i've loved from my favorite comics.

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Old 17th Oct 2009, 05:22 AM #18
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I think it'd be interesting to finally get a good sim of the classic joker look though, Ledger's joker has been oversimmed.

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Old 17th Oct 2009, 09:05 PM #19
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I think I might try the one out of Batman: Arkham Asylum, I'll probably give up on it though :p

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