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|28th Jul 2011, 03:09 PM||the inventory question #1|
I'm not sure that it's the wrong usage of inventory that creates glitches for my sims, but I want to make sure that there are no stupid things that can be done with it that lead to glitches! The question is only related to the inventory usage when the sim on the lot is made selectable via the boolprop mode.
Basically, if you teleport a playable sim to another lot in the game and access her inventory, are there some things that shouldn't be done? One of my sims became majorly glitched after I teleported her to some lots with a cowplant in her inventory (with the cake already), put it out, and "drank" some sims. I'm not sure that it's the culprit of the glitchiness, but I did nothing else outstanding with that sim, and now whenever she appears on any lot there are neverending errors popping up about inability to calculate the attraction score. Unfortunately, this sim has to be killed now, as these constant errors make it impossible to play the game with her. And it doesn't help that she's the queen of the hood who carries all kinds of useful stuff in her inventory, like hundreds of crates of food for other sims.
Another case was when I teleported a sim to another lot, took out a genie lamp out of her inventory, and made another sim use it to gain an ability to plead for her life for story reasons. That didn't end well, for some unknown reason the sim who used it started popping up errors all the time, but this time I was smarter and exited the lot without saving. When I loaded it back, everything worked perfectly, so I concluded that it was somehow connected to the genie lamp and the inventory usage.
|28th Jul 2011, 04:40 PM||#2|
Is this cheat any different than making sims selectable via clicking on them in the boolprop mode?
|28th Jul 2011, 04:59 PM||#3|
I see, thanx for info. However, won't this cheat make it more difficult to play? You'd basically have to switch back to another household and use the same cheat to add the neighbour back to her own family. Although it might be worth it, if using cowplants and genie lamps taken from the inventory is so dangerous. Or maybe giving them as gifts would help, instead of just taking them out and placing them on the ground.
Does anybody else ever experienced such problems? There must be people who play in the same way, for example, if the hood is self-sustained, then the easiest way to provide for sims is to have a sim with a lot of fresh produce in the inventory, call that sim, select her, and "buy" some fresh produce from her by taking it out of her inventory. I did that a lot of times and encountered no problems. However, using some other items provide problems, if that's indeed why the problems happened.
|29th Jul 2011, 07:14 PM||#4|
I make sims selectable all the time, using the Mind Control Mirror. But I am careful to not leave them selected. I do what I have to do and de-select them as quickly as possible.
I also take things from other player's inventory all the time. I do not know if there are certain objects you should not use in the way that you have. I have not run into any problems, but maybe because I am usually taking it out of one inventory and putting it into my sim's inventory. Or stuff I want to be given as a gift, it is taken out of the inventory and placed in the house.
Based on what happened, I would think it was the cowplant or another glitch. I haven't played with the cowplant much myself, and never moved it in inventories but one time on a Uni lot. I had the sim "borrow" it from the ss lot, just to see if it were possible, then immediately returned it.
Have you tried using the lot debugger on the sim? Other mods I would try is some by Boiling Oil that cleans up lots for each lot you enter. Sim Manipulator has a Restore Family option, maybe another option that would work.
I have a Queen for my hood as well and I would be very upset if something happened to her. However, I do have a few suggestions. I learned the hard way to avoid keeping too many crates in the inventory of one sim. My farmers carry no more than about 20 of each type of produce they sell. To stock the store crates, I have them bring over some crates every day,, while still leaving some of the crates at home. Other crates are kept in a storeroom at the business lot, with some also stored at the house. Some crates are also stored on other lots. If something bad happens to any one sim on the lot, it won't devastate the entire hood. The same goes for having any of my lots become glitched.
Unless you have tried all the different mods to "fix" stuff in your hood, I wouldn't give up on the Queen just yet. Oh, and try getting your hood to reset by taking out all your hacks/mods, start the game, go into an empty and bare lot, save, then exit the game. Put your mods and hacks back in, and load the game a couple times before entering any of your households/lots where you don't want to have to replace your custom stuff. The hood reset is just what I do if I have a glitch just to make sure it gets cleaned up - but no guarantees on eaxis stuff.
|29th Jul 2011, 07:44 PM||#5|
Cheshirekat, thank you for your suggestions, although unfortunately I won't be able to use them safely now. My queen became corrupt beyond hope, and I decided to kill her once again to avoid troubles, I'm now just afraid of leaving her alive in my hood. Her aspiration icon disappeared completely, and a few panels went missing, I never saw that happen to any sims before, and I'm not sure that such things are safely fixable by whichever methods. She could forever have corrupt DNA now for all I know, and there'd be no end of problems if she had a kid who inherited corruptness. Too bad there was no heiress before that, I actually planned for a queen's kid just a while ago. Fortunately, she had a vampire sister, so the hood story is not completely ruined. Although it's really weird to have a playful and lazy vampire who wants to have 50 dream dates as a queen, but c'est la vie.
And now I think that corruption was not directly connected to the Cowplant. The queen originally died from hunger by accident: I made her selectable on a dorm lot she was visiting and she immediately collapsed to the floor and died, while all three sims who could plead for her life were passing their final exam and couldn't make it back to the dorm quickly enough. The queen died with three graves in her inventory, which I guess is not recommended. Anyway, when I resurrected her by genie, I saw that all three graves became suspiciously corrupt: they were misnamed! So it's probably a problem caused either by dying with graves in her inventory, or by being resurrected with graves in her inventory. Not necessarily connected to the Cowplant machinations she was performing. Although I may be wrong, as at first she was ok after resurrection, errors started popping up a little later.
That's a good idea to keep inventory items somewhere else, rather than only in inventory, the reason I didn't do it was because I found it annoying to load the queen's palace and place stuff into her inventory all the time. But this incident has taught me a lesson, now I'll store some things in other places, too.
Anyway, for the first time in my simming, my sims happened to host an actual funeral! It seemed to be mandatory to make a funeral for the queen. And it was rather nice, set up as an outing on an owned Town Hall lot: her urn was placed there for sims to mourn, and her sister was playing the violin for tips in honour of the dead, since it was the queen's favorite hobby. That was quite a unique experience, I never hosted a funeral before. On a funny note, the new queen got a jacuzzi for a funeral outing later, as a consolation gift I guess.
|29th Jul 2011, 11:31 PM||#6|
Aww, sorry to hear you lost your Queen. My Queen also has a sister that could take the throne if something happened before my Queen has a daughter. Part of me is anxious about not having the daughter yet, but I really want to wait until she is crowned first before getting her pregnant. But that isn't going to happen until the Castle is finished. Maybe my next rotation.
I am planning the coronation on one of my community lots, but I have never thrown a community lot part, so it should be interesting. I haven't even thrown a party at all in ... a long time. Actually, I don't think this hood has ever had a party. I've just been so busy building it up and establishing my relationships and classes.
Oh. Did you crown your Queen? Do you have her wear the crown all the time? I have downloaded a few different crowns but haven't yet gave my Queen a test run of the crowns. I think I am afraid I might have to change her hair so the crown looks right, I love her hair, so I don't really want to change it although the style is a bit too modern for a Queen. Maybe I'll make up my mind when I see her in her new gown.
|30th Jul 2011, 06:40 AM||#7|
It's very sad, but in all justice it's befitting for the queen to die so ridiculously, it's like divine retribution for her sins! She was drinking sims to stretch her own life cycle, after all. And even though she only fed them to the Cowplant an hour or less before their natural death would occur, I still cringed at it and felt guilty. Those sims surely would prefer to die peacefully. Some punishing sim god must exist But to her credit, she ran the hood well otherwise.
So it worries me how the new queen would turn out and what kind of disasters I'd have to cause to my hood to reflect her character. She's lazy, playful, and evil, and the only wishes she has are related to dating, outings, casting spells, wearing PJs at home, and juggling. Once I tried to assign her a job from the newspaper, and she immediately threw up a wish to "stay home from work", that's how lazy she is. And a combination of an atrociously evil witch and a vampire with huge bat wings is a dubious candidate for a queen, but she keeps being showered with expensive gifts. And for the first time in my life I saw how two sims left gifts at somebody's porch after an outing, not just one! I'm unsure how to interprete it: do sims like their new queen so much, or are they freaked out so much that they're trying to appease her with presents?
As for throwing parties on community lots, I wouldn't recommend doing it unless you own the lot. The reason is that if you do that, the sims present on the lot count towards the invited sims, and they crowd community lots pretty fast, so you'll be unable to invite as many sims as you want and will be limited to two or so. My solution was to buy the lot, have a wedding there, then sell it right after that. Just hang a business sign somewhere and set it to "closed" to stop visitors coming. Another solution is organizing an outing instead of a party and inviting the whole group over to some community lot.
Right now I don't remember all the details, but I had lots of problems when I tried to have community lots weddings. That's why I eventually resorted to buying and selling the wedding lot to prevent the flood of random visitors that kept messing up the limit of guests.
Yes, my queen did wear the crown all the time, because I figured that nothing else would signify that she was a queen. But I didn't have a problem with crowns looking wrong with custom hair, although I suppose it's possible with some. Some accessories have problems, though, like bat wings for the new queen were originally flashing blue when she was seen on another lot. It's an accesory bug affecting all accessories created before Pets, if I'm not mistaken. Some crowns you can find might suffer from that, too.