http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/ric...ger-republicans

I love his passion and I think we need more like him in congress. What do you think?

(Watch the video--totally awesome!)

"I WILL NOT YIELD!"

I saw it earlier today, he's one of the good ones!

I LOVE IT TOO!

Oh...er...well..that'll teach me to type before reading the actual original post..

:D

It's the truth though. Just look at the bill that was going to aid small business, also very recent. It was co-written by Republican senators. And they voted against it. Those who wrote it literally voted against what they wrote.

The Republicans are thinking only in two ways:

1. Political future.
2. For the wealthy.

And that's it. They have done nothing. They have undermined Democrats at literally every god damn step. They filibuster with every heartbeat. They bitch and moan about amendments and procedures, but when they add their own amendments, when we go with the procedures they want, do their minds change? Not at all. Just look at how many Republicans voted for the health care bill. NOT. ONE. REPUBLICAN. After all the bending backwards that was done to accommodate then, and there was, I know, I watched, I saw it! After all of that, not one voted for it.

As Sarah Palin said, they're not going to be the party of no, they're going to be the party of "hell no!" To the extent where they would even vote against something meant to help those who were caught in the aftermath of 9/11. Even voting against bills they helped write.

Jesus Christ, the Democrats could put up a bill that declared America a Christian nation, banned all gay marriage, put up a monument to Reagen, and got rid of the government departments the Republicans want gone. And you know what? The Republicans would STILL vote no! They would say Obama is going against our Founding Fathers who did not want a Christian nation, they would say he's trying to suppress minority groups, they would say he's wasting public taxpayer money on frivolous projects, they would say he's going to cut all those jobs those departments hold, and they would vote no! Because god forbid the Democrats pass anything.

Sort of like what Jon Stewart said about Fox News; the same idea applies: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/t...leader-s-digest - "nothing Obama does will ever make you fucking happy."

The Republicans only have, like I said, two goals. Sabotage Democrats, and pander to big business and the wealthy. They do not care about jobs. They do not care about the deficit. They do not care about the troubles people are having. They do not care.

Nekowolf: The Republicans are well known to prefer the status quo over hasty change. It is in the nature of their platform that they will probably strike down most bills put up for a vote, because they are trying to preserve the country essentially as it is with only minor changes every now and then. That means that, even if they co-write bills, if the Democrats throw in something that the Republicans are opposed to, they're probably not going to vote for the bill.

I think that a moderate point between the two parties is best. You are well aware of my views on the socialist leanings of the Democrat party. I also think that they are too impatient about passing new bills. They tend to act like the world will fall apart if they don't pass this new bill right now. Hasty action like that often means poorly thought-out bills and short-sighted motives.

The Republicans, on the other hand, are so stolid that they will never right the wrongs given all the time in the world to do it. A totally static society is doomed to stagnation and decline.

And both parties are very much corrupt. Neither really cares about the citizens of this country anymore. They are ideologues who will push their agenda, regardless of how it works in reality. They want power. That's all they're in it for and they don't care how much they screw up to get it. To be fair there are a few politicians who aren't totally corrupt, but they don't have much power when compared to the overwhelming number who are.

I won't say there isn't corruption on the Democrat's side, but they passed health care. They tried to pass unemployment extension. They tried to pass benefits to small businesses, and aid to those affected by illnesses contracted from 9/11. Yet you say they do not care about the people?

I think that shows they have at least some concern. More than could be said of the Republicans. Who if anything, have shown nothing but contempt except towards big corporations and the individually wealthy.

When you have people dying, people losing their jobs, people losing their homes, I don't think "patience is a virtue."

At least the democrats try. Both parties do not seem that great but of the two the democrats for sure seem the better ones. Obama can try all he wants, one problem is people are not realistic in their expectations. When Obama said "change" people expected him to grab his magic wand and turn the country into something great in one spell.
Problem is when problems have been accumulating for years and years, its not so easy to fix them. So patience is needed because even in two terms the complete USA mess with poor people, homeless people etc whatever can't be changed that easily. The thing is, he TRIES. That in itself may lead to change, while doing nothing sure will not ever fix anything.

Problem is the republicans know how to play the game all too well. Fear is such a powerfull manipulator.

"Coorporations and businesses need freedom to survive" ( OR ESLE... we are COMMUNISTS!!... Jsut look at what happend to the USSR!)

We cant allow gay marriage and abortion (or ELSE... apocalypse will happen on "FAMILY VALUES")

Both are fear based manipulation based on nothing, this talk only works because USA people are not encouraged to look abroard to check if any of these claims are anywhere based in REALITY. Reality does not matter at all in this type of fear based manipulation.

Whatever happend to the real issues does not matter, the fear based media has taken over and the human sheep follow the herd, afraid of the not existing wolfs, too occupied by fear to think about what SHOULD be done by republicans. (like start to try to fix real problems like homeless, jobless people).

Through all this fear based nonsense the republicans have placed themself in a most usefull and luxury position, one where they dont to have to care about real issues, because they can pretend to be busy on fixing the fake ones. And sadly, that works.

Nekowolf: All of those things increase the size of government, putting more power in their hands. Many of the social programs that we have in this country give special privileges to people who know someone in the system. That is corruption. It isn't done that openly, but there are people who should not be on welfare. That is taking taxpayer dollars and redistributing it to the elite (at least, those who are considered elite by those in power).

Republicans like self-starters. People who become wealthy through their own efforts. True, some people simply inherit money and never add anything back, but there is little that can be done about those people without punishing the people who earn their wealth. The major flaw in the Republican platform is that they don't try hard enough to make the opportunities for wealth fair. There are people who are held down because of their race, the socioeconomic status they were born into, or simply because they were born in the wrong part of the country. Those people should be given more opportunity to use their talents to make a living, which is what the Republicans should be focusing on.

"privileges to people who know someone in the system." - bullshit. Pure and simple. Overcomplicated? Yes. Too much red tape? Yes. That ^? Bullshit.

People who can become wealthy on their own efforts...or, like most, either inherent it, or be lucky enough to afford the best of the best, lead a rather privilege life, go to schools the commoners could never afford, and "know someone in the system." Ahem, sorry, not system. I meant corporation.

You want self-starter, then look at small business. Oops! They voted against that! You know what, that's the problem. It's not "punishment," it's responsibility. If you earn more, you have the responsibility to pay more back into the system. Just like if you own a bigger house, you pay more on that house. Wealth isn't, shouldn't, be treated like it was a freaking gift from God. If you earn more, you should put back more into the system. That's all it is about. No conspiracies, no punishments, no reprisal. A simple concept: if you earn more, you have a responsibility to put more back. For the benefit of everyone. Not rich vs. poor. Everyone.

Nekowolf: This conversation is going a little off-topic, so I'm going to append this to my response to Vanito in the Political Perspective thread.

Mm, yes, I agree, it is.

Anthony Weiner is one of the good guys in Congress! He speaks for those most other politicians ignore. And he is not afraid to express and support his views. I'm hoping he runs for President.