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28th Oct 2010, 12:29 AM
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 Custom scripts crash game patched 1.17 ?!
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| silverfox |
I patched my game today (1.17.6) When I'm in buy mode and I select a custom object with a custom script, my game crashes. Someone has same problem ? And this problem can be resolved or each creator needs to update his script ? |
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28th Oct 2010, 01:36 AM
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werismyki
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If the object or mod crashes your game, then yes it's best to remove it and look for an update from the creator. |
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28th Oct 2010, 01:39 AM
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Yeah apparently so  Some people told me about it in my threads and asked me to update my mods but I have no idea what to update since I haven't patched and I haven't got the pack yet. I don't know why it would crash the game in the catalog, could be the script, but then again it seems that most object mods have the same problem...
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28th Oct 2010, 01:12 PM
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Buzzler
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Time to move this thread to Modding Discussion, maybe? | |
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28th Oct 2010, 01:19 PM
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I have heard from some window creators that objects which are clones of clones from S3OC seem to be causing problems, this could perhaps be related - although some (non-modded) TSRW objects are also experiencing similar problems. I'll bump this over to modding discussion if, well, it develops into discussion about the causes/solutions. 
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Last edited by whiterider : 28th Oct 2010 at 02:23 PM.
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28th Oct 2010, 01:19 PM
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treeag
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No log file created when the game crashes? Maybe I should go and get the EP and install it myself... Or is it happening with the patch too? |
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28th Oct 2010, 03:02 PM
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Reachsims
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The crashing is happening with just the patch, Treeag, as well. I've got many problem windows but that's my only problem so far. I only have the patch installed, but I have suffered a few crashes since installing it. |
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28th Oct 2010, 03:42 PM
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Buzzler
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I've investigated a little further. As soon as an object references a custom script, it causes the crashing in buymode. If the object references a script from the Sims3 namespace or no script at all, the game doesn't crash. Objects referencing non-existent scripts, crash the game as well. Objects already existing in the game, work just fine with custom scripts. As I said, the script itself is not the cause. My two object mods (one is still in the queue) are derived from GameObject and basically coded from scratch, so critical changes might affect them. To make sure, I checked it with one of the VanishingScript classes which are derived from fully functional TS3 classes and don't change any "low-level" stuff, but the issue is just the same. It may very well be that EAxis borked something that can't be resolved by changing the objects themselves. Since the devs haven't really shown any interest in actively supporting mods and their own objects work just fine, this doesn't bode too well. | |
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28th Oct 2010, 05:59 PM
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Yes, I saw this. Objects already in existing in the game, work fine. But, after a while, game crashes finally. I removed all custom scripts in my game, and I have no crash, now. |
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28th Oct 2010, 06:10 PM
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Buzzler
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28th Oct 2010, 06:29 PM
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@ buzzler Sorry, I have spoken too hastily. Indeed, at first, my game runs correctely with all scripts already in game. I removed them because I has another problem. My game starts to crash when I put scripts back in my Mod folder. |
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28th Oct 2010, 06:59 PM
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Buzzler
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@silverfox: Err, isn't that the same you wrote in the last post? About which specific scripts are you talking? Are these scripts updated for the latest patch? Is this the same issue or a different one? |
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28th Oct 2010, 07:41 PM
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Inge Jones
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Well, obviously if any of the s3pi tools needs updating it's not gonna help any objects that are already incompatible with the game. My hunch would be that there is something similar to the pets thing going on, that they added attributes or interactions to some of the stuff that wasn't there when we made the existing objects - so the game calls something on them that isn't there. They may need remaking to pick up any new bits to them, but it won't *necessarily* mean changing the way the tools work. If someone could send me, or give me a download link to, one or more specific example objects causing problems for the first time in LN, that would be helpful please. |
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simlogical Please do not PM me with questions about modding. Please post in an appropriate forum and send me a link to the thread if you would like me to try and help. |
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28th Oct 2010, 08:04 PM
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Buzzler
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Last edited by Buzzler : 28th Oct 2010 at 10:08 PM.
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28th Oct 2010, 08:29 PM
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Inge Jones
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Not to the extent that Workshop does. Mainly any rewriting of resources would be during renumbering, as all resources that contain TGI refs will need altering and writing back to contain references to the renumbered resources. Also if the user asked to have catalog data changed, then it will have to write back the catalog resource. It wouldn't touch the contents of a script resource though. I'd like to see some of the non-custom-script objects (ie new meshes etc) that are broken too. |
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simlogical Please do not PM me with questions about modding. Please post in an appropriate forum and send me a link to the thread if you would like me to try and help. |
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28th Oct 2010, 08:39 PM
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Buzzler
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28th Oct 2010, 08:41 PM
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Inge Jones
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I mean something that does not have a custom script at all. |
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simlogical Please do not PM me with questions about modding. Please post in an appropriate forum and send me a link to the thread if you would like me to try and help. |
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28th Oct 2010, 08:51 PM
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Buzzler
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28th Oct 2010, 08:53 PM
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Inge Jones
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I have just tested my original custom script toilet in Late Night and it worked as it always has done. Now we have to find out what the difference is between that and the things that are breaking.... |
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simlogical Please do not PM me with questions about modding. Please post in an appropriate forum and send me a link to the thread if you would like me to try and help. |
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28th Oct 2010, 08:56 PM
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@ buzzler : I done some tests, and I don't understand what's happen. I put some custom scripts in my Mods folder ; I started game and I have no crash with the objects already in game; I tried with and without deletion of scriptCache : no problem. Yesterday my game crashed with custom scripts ?! Problem in BuyMode catalog is present again. I used custom scripts not updated. I don't tried with updated scripts, but I saw in downloads section, your box of seeds crashes in BuyMode too. @ Inge Jones : I haven't cc with custom meshes crashing game. I send you a cc with custom meshes AND custom script, if this helps you. |
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28th Oct 2010, 08:57 PM
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Buzzler
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28th Oct 2010, 09:00 PM
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Inge Jones
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simlogical Please do not PM me with questions about modding. Please post in an appropriate forum and send me a link to the thread if you would like me to try and help. |
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28th Oct 2010, 09:17 PM
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Buzzler
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Fuck. It seems to be the namespace. You used Sims3.Gameplay.Objects.Plumbing.Mimics. I just changed the namespace of my BoxOfSeeds from TwoBTech to Sims3.Gameplay.Objects.TwoBTech and it doesn't crash the game anymore. I even thought of trying to change the namespace to something more Sims3-ish before, but didn't because I thought that couldn't be the cause... Can it really be that simple/weird/younameit? |
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28th Oct 2010, 09:25 PM
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Inge Jones
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Well if that is the problem, then EA are being quite foolish. I made that toilet before it had occurred to me it would be more sensible to use my own namespace, and I would have thought the last thing we want is everyone leaping into EA namespace. But what about classes that are not buyable objects? I used my own namespace for my lotsizes mod and that is working ok but of course it is not a buyable object. |
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simlogical Please do not PM me with questions about modding. Please post in an appropriate forum and send me a link to the thread if you would like me to try and help. |
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28th Oct 2010, 09:36 PM
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twallan
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I'm running into the same problem with SleepFreedom, where I replace the OBJK of certain beds with a custom script. The minidump from the CTD made reference to the Sims Store... So I suspect the game-engine is now using the scripting class as a lookup value when comparing the objects to store items. If the scripting class name doesn't match what they are looking for, the game crashes. Simple enough fix... Though completely non-intuitive, since using someone else's namespace is not something I would have ever considered.
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