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10th Sep 2011, 12:27 AM	Cloned Paintings have same name #1
SakuraAmaya Original Poster Test Subject Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 17	Hi I think this is the right place to put this. I just found out how to make paintings. By cloning them with S3OC and then changing the picture and importing it through s3pe. I made a couple of clones of the same painting and changed the picture and each one had it's own description. When I go in game all the clones have the same name. Example: I made 3 cloned painted and when I created them I named them Dog, Cat, House. And all of them will say Cat. How can I fix this. Sorry if I wrote this to confusing. Please help . Thank you. Also I looked everywhere to find out how to fix this before asking and found no help.

10th Sep 2011, 5:10 AM

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Hi I think this is the right place to put this. I just found out how to make paintings. By cloning them with S3OC and then changing the picture and importing it through s3pe. I made a couple of clones of the same painting and changed the picture and each one had it's own description. When I go in game all the clones have the same name. Example: I made 3 cloned painted and when I created them I named them Dog, Cat, House. And all of them will say Cat. How can I fix this. Sorry if I wrote this to confusing. Please help

. Thank you. Also I looked everywhere to find out how to fix this before asking and found no help.

This is the right place to put your question. I'm not completely understanding what it is that you're doing though. Could you give a more detailed description of what you're doing when creating just one single painting object?

10th Sep 2011, 10:15 AM	#3
SakuraAmaya Original Poster Test Subject Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 17	I got on S3OC and find the painting and clone it and change the name while I'm cloning it. Then I take that package file and open it on S3PE and find the right file and export it and open it in a paint program and change the image. Then I import it back in the package file with s3pe. I'll save it and put it on my game. Then I went and cloned the same painting and changed the name but in game it will just have one of the names I picked even though they are shown as separate items in game.

10th Sep 2011, 1:00 PM	#4
HugeLunatic Mad Hatter Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,659 Thanks: 118363 in 155 Posts 42 Achievements View My Journal	Is your game in English? I think when you change the description in S3OC it only changes the English description. You would need to tick the box to copy all to English for it to change for other languages.
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11th Sep 2011, 2:06 AM

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Is your game in English? I think when you change the description in S3OC it only changes the English description. You would need to tick the box to copy all to English for it to change for other languages.

Yes mine is in English do I still need to click it? Also the only thing I change it the catalog name and catalog description. Is there anything else I have to change?

11th Sep 2011, 2:53 AM

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Yes mine is in English do I still need to click it? Also the only thing I change it the catalog name and catalog description. Is there anything else I have to change?

Are you clicking the renumber/rename internally button to make the new painting unique?

11th Sep 2011, 5:14 AM

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Are you clicking the renumber/rename internally button to make the new painting unique?

Yes it has been clicked. But under the button it says *Unique Name* Should I also be changing the unique name since I should click that button?

11th Sep 2011, 7:53 AM	#8
Inge Jones Mad Poster Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,899 Thanks: 7475 in 19 Posts 18 Achievements	In theory it should included the timestamp in the seed for the renumbering, so you should be ok, as long as you chose a different file name to save to. Though "unique name" is intended to be unique, so the name it offers is only a suggestion based on your name and the original object name, and is intended to be changed at your discretion. What could be happening is that the string GUIDs are not being renumbered and are all pointing to the same string.... in order to analyse this, please could you do an experiment. If they are all saying "Cat" please can you remove the one that is meant to say cat, and see what the others say then.
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12th Sep 2011, 1:38 AM

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In theory it should included the timestamp in the seed for the renumbering, so you *should* be ok, as long as you chose a different file name to save to. Though "unique name" is intended to be unique, so the name it offers is only a suggestion based on your name and the original object name, and is intended to be changed at your discretion.

What could be happening is that the string GUIDs are not being renumbered and are all pointing to the same string.... in order to analyse this, please could you do an experiment. If they are all saying "Cat" please can you remove the one that is meant to say cat, and see what the others say then.

I took it out and the rest just changed name to another paintings name. I took out the Cat one and the other two named Dog and House that I left are both named Dog now.

12th Sep 2011, 1:48 AM

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I took it out and the rest just changed name to another paintings name. I took out the Cat one and the other two named Dog and House that I left are both named Dog now.

To make a brand new object from an existing object you need to 1. copy the object. 2. open the copy of the object with s3oc. 3. hit the Clone or Fix button. 4. Click the renumber/rename internally box so it has a checkmark in it. 5. Give the object a unique name in the Unique name (used as internal name and hash seed) box. 6. Click the Start button.

You should be able to salvage the work you've already done by just opening each of the packages and following steps 3-6 above.

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12th Sep 2011, 1:54 AM

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Originally Posted by orangemittens

To make a brand new object from an existing object you need to 1. copy the object. 2. open the copy of the object with s3oc. 3. hit the Clone or Fix button. 4. Click the renumber/rename internally box so it has a checkmark in it. 5. Give the object a unique name in the Unique name (used as internal name and hash seed) box.

You should be able to salvage the work you've already done by just opening each of the packages and following steps 3-5 above.

Ok thank you. I wasn't changing the Unique name so maybe that was why it did it.

12th Sep 2011, 7:43 AM	#12
Inge Jones Mad Poster Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,899 Thanks: 7475 in 19 Posts 18 Achievements	Yes, I suggested the test because if the remaining two were still called cat, it would have been a very different problem from what it turned out to be - you have or had a situation where they were overriding each other - ie a clash of GUIDs.
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12th Sep 2011, 4:36 PM	#13
Inge Jones Mad Poster Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,899 Thanks: 7475 in 19 Posts 18 Achievements	Ah - which version of S3OC are you running? Upon investigation I have remembered this was an early problem that got fixed. Let me know your version number, then I can work out whether it crept back in.
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14th Sep 2011, 9:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Inge Jones

Ah - which version of S3OC are you running? Upon investigation I have remembered this was an early problem that got fixed. Let me know your version number, then I can work out whether it crept back in.

Sorry for late reply was having problems with internet. My version is 10-1107-1415. Thanks so much for helping me.

14th Sep 2011, 10:10 PM	#15
Inge Jones Mad Poster Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,899 Thanks: 7475 in 19 Posts 18 Achievements	Having consulted with Peter, it seems it was a deliberate design decision to base the STBL keys on the unique name. You are supposed to actually choose a unique name for each seperate object. But because we can see that some people are not sure whether they should change what S3OC offers by default, we're going to start adding some random numbers to the suggested unique name (which the user can still edit anyway) so that it doesn't matter if you don't get round to changing them.
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14th Sep 2011, 11:02 PM	#16
SakuraAmaya Original Poster Test Subject Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 17	Ok. Thanks to everyone for comments and helping me. Very appreciated =3

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