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Old 26th Oct 2011, 07:48 AM DefaultThe Cat Clan Challenge - Survive in the wild! #1
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It is recommended you have read at least one of the books in the 'Warriors' series by Erin Hunter, which this challenge was based on, before trying this challenge.

Create a young adult sim, any way you like. The last name of your sim should be Warriors and the first should be ___Clan, filling the blank with the word of your choice (for example a sim's full name could be 'FireClan Warriors') This sim only exists so you can play as your cats, and so you know the name of your clan.

Create two adult cats, one male, one female. These are your leaders. Both should have 'star' at the end of their name (for example, Smokestar and Cloudstar). Both cats MUST have the following traits: Adventurous, Hunter, Independent. Do not give your cats collars, and do not make them mates or siblings.

Move your starting clan into any lot. Put the sim inside the house and lock the door for everyone, so your cats and sim will not have contact with each other. Make sure your sim cannot age, but your cats can. I use Story Progression to disallow aging on particular sims.

Buy the cheap dog house. This is purely for mating. Do not use it for anything else.

Give your cats one hunting skill point each via Master Controller. This is so they can hunt for food without having to learn from a sim.

Now your cats must survive in the wild.

Each pair of cats may only mate ONCE. If you don't get a kit with one of your founders' traits, game over! Name all of your kits something that ends in 'kit' (for example: Redkit) and give them one hunting point each.

If you get a kit with at least one of your founders' traits, keep playing. They will be one of your new leaders when your old ones die. If your cat had multiple kittens with the traits your need, pick whichever one of them you want to be future leader. When your kits reach adulthood, rename them to a two part name, such as 'Redtail', which shows your kits are now full fledged warriors!

If you meet a stray cat, you can choose to fight or befriend them. The latter is recommended because you can recruit new warriors this way! If one of your cats befriends a stray, you may add them to your household using Master Controller. Don't forget to give the new warrior a two part name!

Added 10/26/11: Strays can be difficult to find sometimes, so you shouldn't have to rely on them to be a mate for your heir. This is where your sim can come in handy. Use your sim to adopt an adult cat from the shelter. When the cat arrives, give them a two part name and you now have your new warrior and mate for your heir!

Once your previous leaders die, they are with StarClan, and your heir is the new leader! Rename your heir to have 'star' after their name ('Redstar') and if your new leader has a mate, rename them as well!

The challenge ends if you fail to reproduce a kit with at least one of your founders' traits, or if all of your cats die.

This may work for dogs and horses too, though I haven't tried. Have fun making a clan, and I'd love to see pics!
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Old 26th Oct 2011, 09:19 AM #2
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Actually you don't need master controller. Cats can teach themselves hunting using one of the toys from the pet toy box object. Other than that, love it, was hoping someone was going to do something with that idea.
Old 26th Oct 2011, 09:24 AM #3
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Actually you don't need master controller. Cats can teach themselves hunting using one of the toys from the pet toy box object. Other than that, love it, was hoping someone was going to do something with that idea.


Ah yes, I just thought MC would be an easier way to do it.
Glad you like it! I'm playing it right now and I have to say it's pretty hard. My cats just won't stay full :P
Old 26th Oct 2011, 09:36 AM #4
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Yeah, I noticed with the horses it's pretty much impossible to keep them green across the board for any amount of time. Definitely possible to keep them alive, though.

In some ways you may have it harder here. The only way cats can get food in the wild is hunting/fishing, right? If all else fails horses can just graze basically anywhere.
Old 27th Oct 2011, 01:09 AM #5
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I updated the rules a bit. Now you don't need to find strays.

And yes, cats are harder. Kits can't even hunt, so the adults have to bring them food. It's doable though. My two kits survived.
Old 30th Oct 2011, 09:30 PM #6
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What are the rules about fleas? Let them be or can the cat get a bath?

And I'm guessing they can't purchase any lifetime rewards?
Old 31st Oct 2011, 08:55 AM #7
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It seems to me the eating of wild animals might need some tweaking. A 7-8 pound cat that eats a 33 pound (15 kg) fish should not still be hungry.
Old 31st Oct 2011, 11:30 PM #8
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The dogs might be even harder. They can eat vomit (eww) but I don't know what else they could hunt.

thepantherprincess: Scientifically speaking, a 7-8 pound cat that eats a 33 pound fish should not still be ALIVE.
Old 2nd Nov 2011, 01:38 AM #9
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The amount of hunger restored when eating prey sounds like something that can very easily be tweaked in an xml mod.
I think I'll snoop around in the files now actually in lack of better things to do.

[Edit] Aha! Found it
Its in the CatHuntingComponent+CatchPrey xml file.
If anyone is interested I can upload a modded package for it?
Old 2nd Nov 2011, 04:15 AM #10
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No baths or lifetime rewards.
And I guess dogs are out of the question then until someone comes out with a hunting mod :/
KajaB: I like the idea of the mod, but I'll play without it for now to make the game more challenging.
Feel free to upload it though for anyone who wants to use it
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Old 11th Nov 2011, 09:02 PM #11
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For the record, this IS possible with dogs. Dogs can eat seeds on the ground, therefore if you learn where the spawners are, you have a food source.
Old 12th Nov 2011, 12:59 AM #12
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stray dogs come up and eat my sims tomatoes, maybe dogs with certain traits can eat garden plants? i hope it's not only strays, it could well be only certain plants though. worth looking into if someone really wants too, i'd like to do a family of dingoes, but i suck at modding, so i'd never be able to figure out how to force it to work.

i think i am going to make a crazy lady with a pack of dingoes though... if i find out anything great, i'll let you know, you may need to have your human garden, but thats it, might be worth it to someone who really wants that pack of wild dogs.
Old 13th Nov 2011, 02:14 AM #13
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OooOooOoo.. this sounds really fun!

What is the BEST world to play this in?!

I'm, so playing this now, teehee!
Old 13th Nov 2011, 03:41 AM #14
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Quote:
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OooOooOoo.. this sounds really fun!

What is the BEST world to play this in?!

I'm, so playing this now, teehee!


Appaloosa Plains, by far. It's the only one designed for animals.
Old 24th Nov 2011, 01:11 AM #15
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This looks really cool, but I have a hard time with challenges, for some reason...
I <3 the Warriors series! I'm going to be so sad when Firestar dies...

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Old 4th Dec 2011, 04:45 AM #16
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I'm glad to know that there's a challenge for this. I've been doing this for a while (I'm usually lenient with the breeding. I can see them constantly breeding). Might try it with your rules but change the breeding. Lol
Old 7th Dec 2011, 12:17 AM #17
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ok my pet dogs can eat the tomatoes, but as so far only the tomatoes. if you unlock buydebug and keep planting tomatoes and have the human at least do minimal gardening, but try to keep them from harvesting, dogs ought to be able to eat without a food bowl. if you have cats too, have then "present to" someone, and a dog can swoop in and eat the "treasure" i have a hard time keeping them from doing that in other families.

i got distracted from this family, but i ought to go back and try it again
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