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#1 Old 17th Dec 2016 at 12:22 AM
Default Realistic Sickness
Question about realistic sickness. Do sims that recover develop immunity? And has anyone ever made a version that only affects certain groups or life stages? Asking because I kinda want to have something like chicken pox that will kill so many children every generation.

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#2 Old 17th Dec 2016 at 2:02 AM
To my knowledge, nobody has ever worked on the hack after it was originally made-what you get is what it was done for-a plague like disease,with all the randomness of the real life version.
I don't think immunity builds up because those who get sick usually die. It's that rude. But I'm sure that if you try to mode it to change it nobody would complain.

Or else you could use the Simblender to make everyone immune, or just those you want to be.
I think that's probably the best way to develop immunity, at least in the game.

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#3 Old 17th Dec 2016 at 2:40 AM
Chicken pox isn't fatal. Both me and my brother had it as kids.
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#4 Old 17th Dec 2016 at 2:49 AM
Chicken pox is rarely fatal.
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#5 Old 17th Dec 2016 at 2:54 AM
I think Omglo must be thinking of smallpox, which does kill children..and adults as well.

It's a common enough problem:
Quote:
Chickenpox was commonly confused with smallpox in the immediate post-eradication era. Chickenpox and smallpox can be distinguished by several methods. Unlike smallpox, chickenpox does not usually affect the palms and soles. Additionally, chickenpox pustules are of varying size due to variations in the timing of pustule eruption: smallpox pustules are all very nearly the same size since the viral effect progresses more uniformly. A variety of laboratory methods are available for detecting chickenpox in evaluation of suspected smallpox cases.


From WIkipedia.

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#6 Old 17th Dec 2016 at 2:59 AM
Nope.

"Chickenpox can be serious. Before there was a vaccine, each year chickenpox caused about 4 million people to get sick, more than 10,500 hospitalizations, and about 100 to 150 deaths. Most people who get severe chickenpox are healthy beforehand. Read about a healthy teenager who got chickenpox and died. "

https://www.cdc.gov/features/preventchickenpox/

Not many people die, so folks underestimate it, but it can be a serious disease, especially for the very young and old.
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#7 Old 17th Dec 2016 at 3:06 AM
I was thinking more of Measles, Mumps, Rubella,Scarlet Fever, etc...take your pick...any of those were potentially fatal.

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#8 Old 17th Dec 2016 at 3:16 AM
They probably meant Small Pox. Chicken Pox can be harmless but it can also have some very nasty side effects and kill on occasion.

Realistic sickness like any sim illness will not differentiate between sims or ages. I highly dislike sim flu since it leaves an active square somewhere on the property and a sim only has to walk over it and boom! They have the flu. I downloaded sim wardrobe disinfectant since it says it can find the square but that doesn't work in my game. So these days I mostly cure and make them immune with the sim manipulator, then if I want sickness I roll a die, and might apply some rash like make-up. You could also roll a die to say if they live or die and then you have full control over who gets 'sick'.

Q. Is there a mod that will show where the illness square is? One time in my cave man legacy I found the square and deleted it with moveobjects. I noticed they kept getting sick next to the bed so I tried the hand tool on the floor.

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#9 Old 17th Dec 2016 at 2:18 PM
Chicken Pox can be fatal to infants, pregnant women, adolescents, adults and those with weakened immune systems. It is very contagious if people have not received the vaccine for it and also if children get infections while they have them. I've known several people who got Chicken Pox 2 or 3 times in their life. There are people who throw Chicken Pox parties for preschool ages just to get it over with, this has been a serious problem for many kids. Parents would have kids lick lollipops while they had Chicken Pox, then pass them around or even send through the mail to others with young children.

Disagree if you want, but seriously, research stuff before you do. Just because you don't know someone who has died from it, does not mean it isn't so. My younger sister was very ill and they didn't think she would survive, but luckily she did, although it did cause her problem later in life.

As for the illness tile, Paladin's site has a spray that can be used on a lot to clear that tile.

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#10 Old 17th Dec 2016 at 4:04 PM
Those parents with the lollipops need to get vaccinations! Much safer, much less hassle, increases herd immunity for everybody! The reason so many people think childhood diseases are no big deal anymore is because of vaccinations.

The primary thing I use genie lamps for is to give sims immunity.

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#11 Old 17th Dec 2016 at 5:36 PM
Sounds like an interesting concept when playing a historical hood. Maybe make a sim who sees all these sim kids getting sick and they decide to study it at the local university so they can make the world a better place. Put their picture on a framed mesh in SimPE and put it in a museum!
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#12 Old 17th Dec 2016 at 9:51 PM
Quote: Originally posted by Duine
As for the illness tile, Paladin's site has a spray that can be used on a lot to clear that tile.


I said above that it doesn't work. I have no option on it to find the square only spray a sim or am I doing it wrong?

I got my kids vaccinated against chicken pox, the idea of a CP party sounds very foolish. I think some younger parents have this idea that CP is like a cold, when in can lead to things such as encephalitis, Reye Syndrome and shingles. My friends son developed shingles when he was 7 and it was most unpleasant.

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#13 Old 17th Dec 2016 at 11:25 PM
Quote: Originally posted by Peni Griffin
Those parents with the lollipops need to get vaccinations! Much safer, much less hassle, increases herd immunity for everybody! The reason so many people think childhood diseases are no big deal anymore is because of vaccinations.

The primary thing I use genie lamps for is to give sims immunity.


Wait, you can get immunity from genie lamps? Mine never has that option. Does someone have to be sick for it to show up?

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#14 Old 17th Dec 2016 at 11:44 PM
Possibly; or possibly it's one of Cyjon's added genie wishes.

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#15 Old 18th Dec 2016 at 12:45 AM
Cyjon's New Genie Wishes adds the option to either give immunity or cure the plague.
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#16 Old 18th Dec 2016 at 2:40 AM
Quote: Originally posted by joandsarah77
I said above that it doesn't work. I have no option on it to find the square only spray a sim or am I doing it wrong?

I got my kids vaccinated against chicken pox, the idea of a CP party sounds very foolish. I think some younger parents have this idea that CP is like a cold, when in can lead to things such as encephalitis, Reye Syndrome and shingles. My friends son developed shingles when he was 7 and it was most unpleasant.


I used it once, when Nervous Subject was the only survivor in that Maxis house. Once the other two died, he kept getting sick. The option might be to spray the lot, not sure how it's worded but he did the whole place and never got sick again. If there are no sickness tiles, it won't do anything. Did it have two files? Seems I remember it had two, also didn't have all EPs back then, this was long before UC.

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#17 Old 18th Dec 2016 at 2:42 AM
I'll have to check it again but I saw no option to spray the lot. Maybe that was why, no tile.

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#18 Old 18th Dec 2016 at 1:40 PM
Quote: Originally posted by Devon Aster
Cyjon's New Genie Wishes adds the option to either give immunity or cure the plague.


THANK YOU!

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Theorist
#19 Old 18th Dec 2016 at 2:01 PM
What's the problem with the sickness tiles? I thought they disappear by themselves after a while? Or is there a bug which causes them to stick?

I'm always wondering about the stories of some other players that tell that normal, unmodified sickness spread through their neighbourhood and they had to build quarantine areas and stuff to get it under control.

Personally I've never had sickness spread beyond a household and Sims rarely stay sick longer than for a few hours.

Realistic Sickness, is a different thing altogether though, it's broken and I'd only recommend it for "themed" hoods. I sometimes use it for post apocalyptic hoods. It's fun.
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#20 Old 18th Dec 2016 at 2:38 PM
The Chicken Pox can be fatal.

My son was born with a kidney disease. We were told when he was born, he would eventually need a kidney transplant. One day we were over at my sisters and he was playing with her 3 children. The next day my sister called and told me one of her daughters had the Chicken Pox and not to bring my son back until she was better. 2 days later my son had an appointment with his kidney Specialist. I informed the doctor he was exposed to the Chicken Pox. The doctor told me "Chicken Pox is a very serious disease. It's incubation is 14 days. You don't get a fever until just before you break out but you are contagious long before you break out. Chicken Pox can kill even healthy people. There is a slight chance, though, that he was not expose to it, but to be on the safe side, take him back and expose him again. It is better that he gets it now than after he is transplanted."
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#21 Old 18th Dec 2016 at 3:52 PM
Playstyle and hood size affect how sickness behaves, Orphalesion. Flu is very serious in Drama Acres because I have big households, a large neighborhood, one-day rotations, and do a lot of parties, outings, household visits, and community lot play. Flu spreads through a household by contact as well as by the plague tile, and family members will first infect each other, and then as the first ones sick get well they reinfect either by walking through the plague tile or by contact with the infected; so even if they get comfort soup, they're likely to reinfect as fast as they get cured unless I send everyone to different parts of the house. If you don't clear a household entirely before moving on to the next house, any members of that household will carry flu with them when they visit community lots in the background, attend parties, show up for outings, or come home from work or school. So if not nipped in the bud the first time it rears its head, it can quickly spiral out of control and become a nightmare.

I sometimes think dormies and townies act as reservoirs, though I can't prove to you that they're vulnerable to infection.

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Theorist
#22 Old 18th Dec 2016 at 4:55 PM
With the realsickness mod in my game for years, I've never succeed in getting a flu plague.
It seems to spread only through households, not when my sick sims visit community lots.
Theorist
#23 Old 18th Dec 2016 at 5:44 PM
Quote: Originally posted by Peni Griffin
Playstyle and hood size affect how sickness behaves, Orphalesion. Flu is very serious in Drama Acres because I have big households, a large neighborhood, one-day rotations, and do a lot of parties, outings, household visits, and community lot play. Flu spreads through a household by contact as well as by the plague tile, and family members will first infect each other, and then as the first ones sick get well they reinfect either by walking through the plague tile or by contact with the infected; so even if they get comfort soup, they're likely to reinfect as fast as they get cured unless I send everyone to different parts of the house. If you don't clear a household entirely before moving on to the next house, any members of that household will carry flu with them when they visit community lots in the background, attend parties, show up for outings, or come home from work or school. So if not nipped in the bud the first time it rears its head, it can quickly spiral out of control and become a nightmare.

I sometimes think dormies and townies act as reservoirs, though I can't prove to you that they're vulnerable to infection.


I see, so it must be really because I'm ridiculously strict about my sick sims. I also have large households and many families, however I play 5 day rotations (the length of a season) and when a Sim gets sick, I place them under strict bed rest and don't invite Sims over or throw parties until they're healthy again (and likewise if they aren't healthy by the end of rotation they don't get invited over when playing a different family)

Except for dates I don't use community lots all that much and I have the hack that reduces each semester to a day, reducing the danger of dormitories. I also rarely interact with Townies, unless I bring them in as partners for my Sims or "phone friends".
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#24 Old 18th Dec 2016 at 6:48 PM
Like all "childhood diseases," chicken pox can be dangerous for those too young to be vaccinated, pregnant women, or those who have a suppressed or weakened immune system. And you can certainly get it twice - I gave my mother a repeat dose at two, for which I'm still apologizing! (There was no chicken pox vaccine then.)

I was in the one of those categories - I had a suppressed immune system - for most of the last dozen years. (I had my first flu shot in over a dozen years last month, and it was very exciting!) The herd immunity is vital, and we weaken it at our own peril.

"Childhood diseases" are no joke. If I hadn't been a child of the penicillin era, I would have died at 4 from scarlet fever.

I've never had much problem with sick sims (especially after Free Time), because I make them stay in bed or eat chicken soup (there's generally a family sim around, and I beeline for that perk).
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#25 Old 18th Dec 2016 at 9:35 PM
I don't mind the flu in sims as such it's the fact I can cure them with soup, they walk across the house or garden and they walk on that stupid flu square and get sick again. Those cave sims got the flu at least three times in a row before I deleted the square. I find that part really annoying.

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