can't build bridges?

[Volvenom]

1: I'm probably just being a noob here. I'm stuck at placing lots. Can't click on world builder. Have been watching simsupplys tutorial on building bridges and he's on the world layer, "globalt lag" in my language. I even made a new layer.

In metadata I search on just anything, but can't place it. Seems like I should have something coming up in property tab, "eiendomsvelger" in my language. Flabaliki just makes it look so easy :rolleyes:

2: Another problem I have is the road for the bridge keep having uneven edges. I just select as in the tutorial. Exactly the same options. Flatten road, 1 and connections. It's also straight according to the grid as you can see.

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/8372/rstproblemo.jpg
By skaribanan (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/skaribanan) at 2011-10-02

[simsample]

Which tutorial are you using? Could you post a link, please?

[Volvenom]

This one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AN7MPsjqT8

He made some mistakes there, but I didn't think it mattered to me. Bridges or wall or whatever, my text is in norwegian so I still have to search the entire list.

[simsample]

I'm baffled as to why your road flatten isn't working symmetrically- can you post a screenshot of what the settings are on when you click on the road? It always makes a symmetrical area when I try it, with one grid square on either side of the road.

For the wall object, try searching for elvebredd or elve. The wall is the one from France, and it's described as a river side so that may help.

[Volvenom]

I searched for elve and had some fence coming up, but still not appearing any bridge pieces in the window. On this picture you can also see the selections I did when I made the road today. I hoped a boot of the system would work. There's still no even edges for me.

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/5918/rst0310112.jpg
By skaribanan (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/skaribanan) at 2011-10-03

It does not matter what object I try to place. Not even stones on the riverbed will appear. So I may have to reinstall? Have to put my nabourhood somewhere safe then.

[Jay290783]

er a quick random point but have you checked what you have ticked under the View menu?
If you untick certain things then you can make objects disappear.
They're still technically there in your world but you cannot see them until you tick to have that layer of objects show up again.
Example of what I mean:
http://thumbs.modthesims.info/getimage.php?file=1237599
Whereas if we turn off, for example, the Flora Layer, then all the trees and plants disappear off screen.
Example of what I mean:
http://thumbs.modthesims.info/getimage.php?file=1237607
If you look closely, you can see that there is no tick beside Flora. That means that Layer is currently turned off and that is why is does not show up in CAW.
By turning the Flora Layer back on, all the trees and plants show up once again.

So if you check the Layer options and check that they are turned on then maybe that is the problem.
If, however, they are all turned on then I cannot think of another reason why you cannot see them :blink:

Hope that helps,
Jay

[Volvenom]

Thank you for explaining that part for me. I have been wondering what that is for, but then I also know they were all ticked.

You make all those layers? That only something you choose to do? I see the point in layers in photoshop, but I'm not sure I see the point in this world building.

[Jay290783]

er another quick question.
When you try to add an object, like a bridge, for example, are you single-clicking or double-clicking?
I am sorry if that seems an obvious and stupid question, but I was actually only single-clicking at first wondering what was going on then when I tried a double-click, the object I wanted appeared in the window ready for me to move around and place.
Again, I am sorry if that's completely obvious and you have been double-clicking.
Thought I would mention it just in case though.
If that is not the problem then I am well and truly stumped as to what your problem could be :blink:
Jay

[Volvenom]

I'm obviously completely new to this :wtf: I didn't even remember if I presses ones or twice, but now I did, and it worked. So thank you for that.

Still haven't fixed the uneven edge, but I can live with it. So thank you :beer:

[Jay290783]

I'm obviously completely new to this :wtf: I didn't even remember if I presses ones or twice, but now I did, and it worked. So thank you for that.

Still haven't fixed the uneven edge, but I can live with it. So thank you :beer:
Oh so I was not being completely stupid suggesting that?
Glad I could finally help lol :beer:

[simsample]

Well done, Jay290783! :)

Volvenom, your images seem to have vanished! For the bridge edges, are you sure that you have the right box ticked in the options for smoothing/none, where you put in a figure for how many squares to smooth by?

[Volvenom]

Sorry! :)

I selected like this. It has the same place as in your tutorial. The blue dots are flatten road, connections and non. I'm doing this as I make you the pics. I just thought it was some strange glitch in my program, but perhaps you have a solution for me?

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/9966/rst0310111.jpg
By skaribanan (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/skaribanan) at 2011-10-08

[simsample]

This is most puzzling, here is the result that I get:
http://thumbs2.modthesims2.com/img/5/2/8/4/8/MTS_simsample-1238749-Bluefunk_00208-Oct-1113.46.jpg

The only thing I can think of is that perhaps your game files are corrupted somehow. What I would recommend is to test first with a fresh set of CAW user files- drag Documents\ Electronic Arts\ The Sims 3 Create A World Tool to the desktop, and run CAW so that it generates a fresh set of files. Does it work?

If not, try redownloading and reinstalling CAW.

[armiel]

I would like to suggest that maybe the issue is the orientation? I do get that uneven grading with the flatten roads tool too, occasionally, and there is nothing wrong with my caw/game files.

[Volvenom]

wouldn't surprice me ...

[simsample]

Good suggestion armiel, I thought of that earlier but it appears from Volvenom's image that the rotation of the grid is at 0, which is as mine is.

[armiel]

Even though the grid is at 0, there is still two ways lo place the road ;)

I don't know if it matters or not, I have not tested lately. Is just something that crossed my mind :)

[simsample]

Hmm, interesting. I'll have to test that out, perhaps Volvenom could try placing the road in different directions too (N-S and E-W so to speak).

Edited to add:
I just dd some playing with this in CAW, and at first it all looked as it should, whether oriented N-S or E-W.
http://thumbs2.modthesims2.com/img/5/2/8/4/8/MTS_simsample-1238921-Bluefunk_00308-Oct-1121.05.jpg

However, if you look at my images compared to Volvenom's, you'll notice that I'm using a wider, deeper area of water to build my bridge over. If I make it narrower, so that there is less clearance between the edge of the water and the bridge, then I start to get the asymmetry:
http://thumbs2.modthesims2.com/img/5/2/8/4/8/MTS_simsample-1238922-Bluefunk_00108-Oct-1120.59.jpg

The same will happen if I make the water shallower or irregularly shaped, no matter which way the bridge is oriented. But it doesn't always happen, which makes me think that it must be one of those things where CAW is rounding things up (or down) and getting flaky results, a bit like when it will do that -2.9999999999999999E01 thing when you rotate the Bridge objects and certain other objects sometimes.

So I guess the answer would be to make a wider and deeper river, and see if that works!

[Volvenom]

ok, I can try having more space for the bridge and then make it irregular when the bridge is in place instead. I can also try placing it in different directions. I have also placed another bridge, but I don't remember how it was placed. That was a finished bridge though. Perhaps not relevant.

[Jay290783]

er I think this may have been picked up but thought I would mention it just in case.
Volvenom your setting for creating the road has Connected Roads selected by the looks of it whereas Simsample has Single Segment selected.
Now I must admit that I am not entirely sure whether that would make a difference but just thought I would point out that minor difference between the two pictures.
It probably is nothing to do with what is happening but, like I said, I thought I would mention it because the obvious seems to be what cures things in CAW lol

[Volvenom]

Volvenom your setting for creating the road has Connected Roads selected by the looks of it whereas Simsample has Single Segment selected.


Yes, I didn't mention it because the tutorial states I should use connected roads. I just didn't think it mattered since simsample probably not actually make a connected road. He's just showing me. EDIT: I tryed single, made no difference.

Here I'm trying 3 different solutions. I can tell you the conclution is always the same. Uneven edges. I don't know if I should be deeper. This is as deep as I can get. EDIT: I now see you have even straighter edges on the water and ground. I have trouble getting the area around as straight. I have to use the circle brush, the square brush is only accessable in paint mode.

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/2720/rst12101110.jpg
By skaribanan (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/skaribanan) at 2011-10-12

1 attempt goes horizontal to the mountain
http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/834/rst1210112.jpg
By skaribanan (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/skaribanan) at 2011-10-12
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/10/rst1210113.jpg
By skaribanan (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/skaribanan) at 2011-10-12

2 goes out from the mountain
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/1773/rst1210115.jpg
By skaribanan (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/skaribanan) at 2011-10-12
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/633/rst1210116.jpg
By skaribanan (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/skaribanan) at 2011-10-12
http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/6198/rst1210117.jpg
By skaribanan (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/skaribanan) at 2011-10-12

3 is diagonal
http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/6382/rst1210119.jpg
By skaribanan (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/skaribanan) at 2011-10-12
http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/8352/rst1210118.jpg
By skaribanan (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/skaribanan) at 2011-10-12

[Volvenom]

The problem is solved when the edges is perfectly straight http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-angry015.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

[Jay290783]

Personally, I just used the actual bridges and then theres no need for trying to create the road across a bit of water.
But maybe I just like taking the easy road so to speak lol

[simsample]

The problem is solved when the edges is perfectly straight http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-angry015.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

Hehe, the 'rivers' I created were made by placing a road and then using the road gradient tool to flatten them into a lowered area, so they were perfectly rectangular (or as near to perfect as CAW allows!). I was seeing the same- any imperfection in the shape of the river, or indeed if the river was shallow or narrow, caused the asymmetry.

Perhaps you would need to make a nice square expanse of water, place your road and make the bridge, and then edit the water to make it look more natural after?